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Old 01-22-2013, 05:47 AM
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Blown Turbo in my 04

Not the best way to start the morning but I took the car into my local mechanics today having noticed a bit of exhaust smoke on the drivers side engine bay.

They took it out for a test drive and came back with smoke bellowing from exhaust due to a blown turbo.

The engine oil is now off the bottom of the dipstick and I checked and topped it up to max less than a week ago!

Has anyone got a rough guide as to costs in fixing this and if this could turn into a massive bill and job?

Oh dear!!
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:45 AM
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Why don't you look for a used turbo or a complete engine - used turbo would cost you couple of hundreds euro/pounds and the complete good M57 engine form a car with service book costs like 1000 Euro. Engine Installation would cost 500 Euro + lubricants.

By the way - if you own a 930 Turbo you shouldn't have any fears about fixing costs of X5 - they're just a baby toys, compared to the maintenance of an old 911 turbo.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:05 PM
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I like your logic Nick!

Well, I heard back from the local garage (not the Stealers) and the cost of a new Turbo, oil, filter etc comes in at 1300. I did plan on selling the car in a few months but this has had to go and happen now, typical!!!

I decided to opt for brand new kit and gave them the go ahead only to have a call a bit later in the day informing me that the exhaust manifold (which is the reason it actually went in to have checked) has also found to have 3 small cracks in it. It isn't the cast iron one. After removal they carried out some braising on the cracked manifold but rang to tell me it wont go back on and appears to be 5mm out from the studs or holes etc. They proceeded to quote another 437 for a new manifold. I appreciate the manifold gets hot all day long but should it really not go back on ok?

This is getting into serious cash now and I wonder if the turbo had just given up or whether the X5 breather filter was blocked up and needed changing. Of course maybe the EGR is choked up to. We may as well go and add another load of possibles. I wonder if the cat's are any good now too?

All in all its been a bad day for me and the X. I think its time to fix the bloody thing and kick off my drive. Having said that I've loved driving it and its been pretty good in the 3 odd years I've owned it.

Thanks for any input.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:29 PM
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mate if your turbo was dead the car would be a dog to drive and you would have a huge black cloud following you, if the seals are gone its not a big deal to rebuild, however if your manifold is cracked you would get smoke around your motor and you should be able to hear the exhaust leak.

sounds like your mechanic is not up to speed and you may want to get a second opinion.

as for why they cant get the manifold back on now that they have brazed it , the manifold has distorted during welding the process, it should have been bolted to a template BEFORE welding
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Get a new mechanic!!!!! - You're paying for their experimentation
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Now with new turbo and manifold I personally would keep the X for longer - otherwise the new owner will just use for nothing what you have paid and spent time on. 3.0d is great for Europe.
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I've just had the call to tell me the manifold is not going back on and they have rolled the car out into the car park bay's.

@bigwave2255 The exhaust manifold I assumed had cracked as I had fumes on the drivers side of the engine. If I revved the engine plumes of smoke would come up.

The turbo put out such a huge cloud of white smoke that when it was driven back past the garage we thought it was snowing! When it was back in the workshop you couldnt see through the smoke. Here's a youtube vid of just how mine looked when I saw it come in.
BMW X5 Engine Problems - YouTube

Yes, you are probably right in that the braizing may have caused distortion. I need to find a new manifold now thats for sure. I either go with the same silvery looking thing or go for the cast iron one. I dont plan on having the car much longer anyway so, the cheapest option might be best for me.

Does anyone have any part numbers or recommendations for the manifold please?

Car was registered in late december 2004, 3.0D Sport, M57N engine I believe.

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Hey Nick,

The fuel econonmy I am now having to do is making driving it non economical unfortunately. Thanks to my ex moving away with my boy , grrr!

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I've just had the call to tell me the manifold is not going back on and they have rolled the car out into the car park bay's.

@bigwave2255 The exhaust manifold I assumed had cracked as I had fumes on the drivers side of the engine. If I revved the engine plumes of smoke would come up.

The turbo put out such a huge cloud of white smoke that when it was driven back past the garage we thought it was snowing! When it was back in the workshop you couldnt see through the smoke. Here's a youtube vid of just how mine looked when I saw it come in.
BMW X5 Engine Problems - YouTube

Yes, you are probably right in that the braizing may have caused distortion. I need to find a new manifold now thats for sure. I either go with the same silvery looking thing or go for the cast iron one. I dont plan on having the car much longer anyway so, the cheapest option might be best for me.

Does anyone have any part numbers or recommendations for the manifold please?

Car was registered in late december 2004, 3.0D Sport, M57N engine I believe.

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Hi Chris,
Sorry to hear about your problem.

You havent told us the mileage on your X5??Also,where in the UK are you?
YoU need a turbo specialist house that will take your turbo in exchange for a reconditioned one.Someone like BMW Turbocharger Sales - Exchange Turbo Charger - turboactive.com
Or get one off Ebay with a 12 month garantee,like here
Turbo Turbocharger Turbocompressori GARRETT BMW X5 E53 3,0D 160 KW 218 PS | eBay

Bigwave ,is spot on with his advice,looks like the seals have gone on the turbo from the white smoke you mentioned but hope yours isnt like the one on the video your posted as that X5 was running on its own oil due to oil breather blocked maybe,and only stopped running when the engine blew up!


The exhaust manifold cracking is a common problem ,in all 3.0Ds ,as its not iron and as Bigwave said,your "mechanic" should have bolted it ,before welding
and it wouldnt have expanded with the heat, hence the reason why he cant get it back on...
You could have saved some money ,if it was welded properly and it would have lasted a few months or so ,until you sold the car ,now you need to get a replacement!You can try to get one at a breakers yard but with a return guarantee if its cracked!

The OE parts numbers are
Manifold...11627 788422
Turbo......11657 791046
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I purchased a brand new cast iron manifold from an Ebay seller and have given it to the garage for fitting. They are also changing the breather filter / housing on the top of the engine. I think the engine is ok and was told the cats may have survived but they are sealed so no way of actually clearing any excess oil. The turbo according to them was part exchanged to keep the cost down and would have cost another 400 if not with BMW.
Also mentioned were pre-heaters which smelt a bit??!! The car has 94k on the clock by the way and had a full service including fuel filter etc and BMW about 18 months ago.
When I get the final bill I'll post here again! It was due an oil service but I guess after this I can say its had an oil change and all sorts carried out.
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