E53 Limited model, code name "1150"?

[tmv]

I'm reading about E53 on Wikipedia and they mention these. 1000 were made for the US, and 150 for Germany. They are 3.0 I6 with 281hp
Anyone has more info on this? Would be interesting to own one.

P.S: I did search and found nothing.

[epdarks]

That sounds like it would have S50B30 euro motor in it... approx 290 hp from BMW.

That motor never made it into the US in any variant, it did make it into Canadian E36 M3s.

I have never seen one. I highly doubt 1000 of them came to the US, in fact I doubt any came here. Would be interesting to know if any were build for other markets.

[Nick P]

It's BS. There never were any S50 powered X5, especially in Gemany. I mean how such a BS can be published - it's obviously a kid's fantasy.

Another citation from the english X5 wiki-page

"The 4.6L V8 engine was developed by Alpina from the 4.4L V8. A sporty model badged 4.8is was also released a few years later replacing the 4.6 engine with a 4.8-litre (also developed by Alpina and used in Alpina Roadster V8, based on BMW E52 Z8). X5 4.8is was labelled "fastest SUV in the world"."

The autor doesn't even know the engine types used in E53.

And the 4.6 M62 wasn't developed by Alpina, it was BMW's own work, sure on paper they're identical but I assure no one Alpina worker was officially involved in the developement of the 4.6is engine.

Alpina also used the 4.8 l version of M62 in the Z8 and E39 B10S (same bore as 4.6 but S62 crank), not N62.

[X5SND]

But, If its on wiki it has to be true, right?

[Nick P]

Originally Posted by X5SND

But, If its on wiki it has to be true, right?

Do you mean it sarcastic? Wiki is a free acess source, every BS could be published there, until someone will correct it.

[X5SND]

Originally Posted by Nick P

Do you mean it sarcastic? Wiki is a free acess source, every BS could be published there, until someone will correct it.

Yes that was sarcasm...(hence the rolling eyes).

[TwinTurboGTR]

WHAT?!?!? I mean everything on the internet that is published has to be true... I mean c'mon... Its the INTERNET!!! lol

[papasmurf]

Originally Posted by Nick P

It's BS. There never were any S50 powered X5, especially in Gemany. I mean how such a BS can be published - it's obviously a kid's fantasy.

Another citation from the english X5 wiki-page

"The 4.6L V8 engine was developed by Alpina from the 4.4L V8. A sporty model badged 4.8is was also released a few years later replacing the 4.6 engine with a 4.8-litre (also developed by Alpina and used in Alpina Roadster V8, based on BMW E52 Z8). X5 4.8is was labelled "fastest SUV in the world"."

The autor doesn't even know the engine types used in E53.

And the 4.6 M62 wasn't developed by Alpina, it was BMW's own work, sure on paper they're identical but I assure no one Alpina worker was officially involved in the developement of the 4.6is engine.

Alpina also used the 4.8 l version of M62 in the Z8 and E39 B10S (same bore as 4.6 but S62 crank), not N62.

The 4.6 was actually developed by Alpina, then manufactured by BMW (Basically Alpina modded a 4.4, sent it back and said, "build this"). The B46 was used in the B10. The B10S and Z8 Alpina got the updated 4.8 (M62 variant).

[Nick P]

Originally Posted by papasmurf

The 4.6 was actually developed by Alpina, then manufactured by BMW (Basically Alpina modded a 4.4, sent it back and said, "build this"). The B46 was used in the B10. The B10S and Z8 Alpina got the updated 4.8 (M62 variant).

I wrote actually (and you quoted it):


"And the 4.6 M62 wasn't developed by Alpina, it was BMW's own work, sure on paper they're identical but I assure no one Alpina worker was officially involved in the developement of the 4.6is engine.

Alpina also used the 4.8 l version of M62 in the Z8 and E39 B10S (same bore as 4.6 but S62 crank), not N62."


So the part about B10 and B10S in your statement is redundant.

I talked to people, who was involved in developement of 4.6 M62 personally and they said, they had no interaction with Alpina at all, eventhough, as I also already said on paper the engines are almost identical.

That means a group of BMW engineers had a task to develope an engine for a heavy E53 as alternative to the S62, which was earlier considered to be the engine for the sporty version of E53, but "just doesn't feel right" (official quote) due to the less torque oriented characteristic. The new engine had to be more powerful than 4.4l, but the developement costs should be kept al low as possible.

So the BMW engineers team come up following solution - the 94 mm bore of the S62 was criticall (4 mm walls), and they come up with 93 mm bore, the supplier of the carnkshafts offered the 85 mm stroke crankshaft, which was less expensive as the lightweight forged S62 crank (B46 crank is 24 kg and like 1300 Euro and the S62 crank is 18 kg and 2000 Euro), so a copy of Aplina's B10 (M62B46) engine came from BMW without any official Aplina involvement.

Therefore, the 4.6l engine in BMW X5 has nothing to do with Alpina, being idetical to Alpina's 4.6l engine.

[Obioban]

If it exists (I have no idea), sound far more likely to be the N52 that they're talking about than an S50B50. It debuted in 2004, so it's in the correct time range, and in other trims made nearly 281 hp.