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Old 02-16-2013, 08:13 PM
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Well a new battery is definitely in order, but even if the battery was bad, with a jump, it should be able to still crank the x.

Take all the load you can off the X Meaning turn the headlight off, radio off, HVAC off, everything.

If that still doesnt do it. Your going to have to get under the X, locate the starter and tap it to move the brushes around. Doing so will place the contacts in a slightly different spot and i that is the problem, will start the X.
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did you try to hold the RPMs with the 4runner and then start the X? did it work? or not?
Holding the RPMs did not work either.
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The battery is a white BMW battery, so it could be the original (13 years old), but I have only had the car for a year and don't know the history at all. We have never had a battery problem, but that doesn't mean much. Should I try a new battery for it?
wow!!!

in best case scenario, you are at the end of 4th battery/beginning of 5th battery, and all of them were the OE...

in real life you are probably at the end of 2nd battery, that was replaced 5-6 years ago (is there a date tag?)

you need a new battery, as even if you get this one running, it will not hold the charge - it held up long enough and now went off a cliff...



of course, the OE battery is good, but it will run you $300... check the size (is it 92?) and get it from a regular store, with 3 year warranty, 5 years pro rated... no programming needed...
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Well a new battery is definitely in order, but even if the battery was bad, with a jump, it should be able to still crank the x.

Take all the load you can off the X Meaning turn the headlight off, radio off, HVAC off, everything.

If that still doesnt do it. Your going to have to get under the X, locate the starter and tap it to move the brushes around. Doing so will place the contacts in a slightly different spot and i that is the problem, will start the X.
I will go get a new battery, hopefully that will fix things, if not what exactly do you mean by tap the starter?

I'll be gone for a bit to get the new battery, but I'll check back after, thanks a bunch guys, you are awesome! At least my boss is cool and is letting me come in late, if I make it at all, LOL.
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Holding the RPMs did not work either.
if the RPMs did not help, then do what twin said - turn the starter...
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Just as it says. The started is located under the X. Take the handle of a hammer and give it a hard tap. Then try. Try it atleast a few times. If it still doesnt start, then we need to check something else.
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I am back from parts store and new battery is installed...still no start. I jacked up and climbed underneath to tap the starter and did the best I could, but there isn't much room. Still no start.

Any other suggestions?
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could it be that the security code may have been set by accident? well, thinking about it aloud, if it were set, then you would have seen the code on the MID display or the Nav screen... there is a time-out procedure to start the car when the code is forgotten...

also, the battery has a separate (+) lead for the fuel related electronics, in case of accident, the fuel pump and the such are cut off - i wonder if that lead is dislodged somehow...

also, when the key is starting position, the fuel pump builds up the fuel pressure - the sound of the pump may be heard - are there any sounds coming from the car, and if there are any, can you describe them, when you try to start the car... check fuse 47, and the fuel pump relay is located behind the glove compartment K96

Also, what is the voltage reading of the new battery?
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could it be that the security code may have been set by accident? well, thinking about it aloud, if it were set, then you would have seen the code on the MID display or the Nav screen... there is a time-out procedure to start the car when the code is forgotten...

also, the battery has a separate (+) lead for the fuel related electronics, in case of accident, the fuel pump and the such are cut off - i wonder if that lead is dislodged somehow...

also, when the key is starting position, the fuel pump builds up the fuel pressure - the sound of the pump may be heard - are there any sounds coming from the car, and if there are any, can you describe them, when you try to start the car... check fuse 47, and the fuel pump relay is located behind the glove compartment K96

Also, what is the voltage reading of the new battery?
I have not been prompted by anything mentioning a security code.

I can hear what sounds like the fuel pump when I turn the key on and another sound that appears to be something priming.

Where is fuse 47 located?

New battery is at 12.6 volts.
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I have not been prompted by anything mentioning a security code.

I can hear what sounds like the fuel pump when I turn the key on and another sound that appears to be something priming.

Where is fuse 47 located?

New battery is at 12.6 volts.

glove compartment, if you get into the footwell, open the compartment and look at the "ceiling" of the compartment, you will see two thumb screws that you need to turn 90 degrees (if you have a flash light, remove the flash light, it will get inthe way of the lid opening.

once you pop the lid, you weill see two rows of fuses and a legend on the inner side of the lid. find fuse 47, verify against the legend, and see if it ok or not _if you hear the pump running, probably it is ok... also, the battery terminal is ok too... and the relay might be fine... but never hurts to check the simpler items, before moving into more complicated troubleshooting...
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