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Old 02-15-2014, 10:03 AM
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Removing air bag decals?

Has anyone had success removing the "decals" from the sun visors,
these are the "fuzzy" ones, not vinyl.
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:14 AM
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Yes I have. 91% rubbing alcohol soaked in a rag takes care of them just fine.

Did the same on all my cars no ill effects
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:32 AM
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Isn't there a federal law that says it's illegal to remove them?
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:45 AM
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Probably in Canada. You guys have weird laws.

Not in the U S of A though.

I've had and sold 3 cars over the years and no one seemed worried about federal fines from removing stickers about airbags lol.

I also always disable my DRL as well, I know for you Canucks they are mandatory lol
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Probably in Canada. You guys have weird laws.

Not in the U S of A though.

I've had and sold 3 cars over the years and no one seemed worried about federal fines from removing stickers about airbags lol.

I also always disable my DRL as well, I know for you Canucks they are mandatory lol
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Is this a US of A law? I guess you guys have THE weird law also:

ADDRESS: Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 400 Seventh Street, SW, Washington, DC 20590.
49 CFR Part 571, [Docket No. 74-14; Notice 103], RIN 2127-AG14
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:19 PM
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Show me where in the document it says I will be federally fined for removing them.

It says they must be affixed to new visors that are manufactured and sets the standards for the label, I don't see a place where it shows a fine or imprisonment threat to remove.

I was aware the NHTSA mandates them on visors, not aware however that its a federal offense to remove them yourself. It's not something cops write tickets for, not something inspection stations look at, etc.

It's not like you can compare removing airbag stickers to knocking over mailboxes, you know?
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:40 PM
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For other examples, I disabled tpms on my old GLI and my wife's Rav4 as I prefer to be aware of my own tire pressures.

And there are members on here and all over the country removing catalysts and running straight piped exhausts. Don't think they are getting fined federally.
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For other examples, I disabled tpms on my old GLI and my wife's Rav4 as I prefer to be aware of my own tire pressures.

And there are members on here and all over the country removing catalysts and running straight piped exhausts. Don't think they are getting fined federally.
RB, it's not a question of fine neither a question of your insurance. In your country ( as opposed to ours) you can be held responsible for removing a SAFTY element of your car and face a lawsuit from your passenger or the new owner of the cars you sold without this SAFTY warning label in case of injury.

Don't want to debate this , I'm just giving the OP a heads up to check this cause it's been a while since I've been out of the import car business and there might of been a change in this law since..... Do your homework before you say we have weird laws RB.... lol
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Gio I'm well aware of litigation in this country and in our world nowadays. Anyone can be held liable and used for anything with the right lawyer and enough money in court.

That doesn't stop me from modifying my cars as you're well aware any change you make from stock may make you liable in a court of law. If I didn't affix an intake correctly to the car and it fell apart and got sucked into the manifold, then caused a subsequent rupture of the engine and endangerment of the new owners which caused an accident, you bet your ass that person would be suing me as well as the company that made the intake if that happened.

Extreme example but you get the idea.

This is also why it's highly recommended to get a bill of sale where the buyer is well aware car is sold as is and seller is not responsible for vehicle going forward.

My only annoyance Gio and don't take this personally, is I come from forums for the past 10 years where something like removing airbag stickers was the norm in the world of modifying cars and obtaining a cleaner look.

Now I'm on Xoutpost in 2014 and something I've been doing and countless people have been doing to their cars for 11 years as a simple and free mod, is being debated as possible grounds for federal violations and future lawsuits?

Sad world we live in when that is what we have come to, and people wonder why am hesitate to have a child and raise them in a world where every step you take is a potential lawsuit and liability.
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Gio I'm well aware of litigation in this country and in our world nowadays. Anyone can be held liable and used for anything with the right lawyer and enough money in court.

That doesn't stop me from modifying my cars as you're well aware any change you make from stock may make you liable in a court of law. If I didn't affix an intake correctly to the car and it fell apart and got sucked into the manifold, then caused a subsequent rupture of the engine and endangerment of the new owners which caused an accident, you bet your ass that person would be suing me as well as the company that made the intake if that happened.

Extreme example but you get the idea.

This is also why it's highly recommended to get a bill of sale where the buyer is well aware car is sold as is and seller is not responsible for vehicle going forward.

My only annoyance Gio and don't take this personally, is I come from forums for the past 10 years where something like removing airbag stickers was the norm in the world of modifying cars and obtaining a cleaner look.

Now I'm on Xoutpost in 2014 and something I've been doing and countless people have been doing to their cars for 11 years as a simple and free mod, is being debated as possible grounds for federal violations and future lawsuits?

Sad world we live in when that is what we have come to, and people wonder why am hesitate to have a child and raise them in a world where every step you take is a potential lawsuit and liability.
I hear you RB , and don't forget I'm 47 years old and I'm probably in the same generation you are in and I've been playing with bikes since I was a teen and we had fun modding them just to gain 2hp. Not because someone points out a ridiculous fact like "removing an airbag sticker might make you liable" that he agrees with it. Sometimes people point out stuff just as a heads up so that they know all the facts and from there know what they are getting into.
I think thats what forums are. If you are exposing your project in a forum, I think you have to accept that EVERYTHING is debatable by anyone.
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