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guys what could this be? did any of you experience this? someone recommended replace transfer case oil and drive for atleast 1k miles to see difference, others said, check engine belt & idler pully or replace them, others are saying to check timing chain guide.. I want to locate the problem more exact if possible.. Did any of you guys ever experience this whining noise in cold weather upon acceleration especially when using the Manual triptronic mode?? This is def COLD weather related because you dont hear the whine when its 70F outside - but the colder it gets - the more of a whine exisits especially if temps dip below 30F - if its between 20-30F the whine is annoying!! It does not have impact on performance, the car pulls good, but the whine gets worse as RPMS go up, and its when outside its cold, and car is cold. This WHINING NOISE (almost like a supercharger) exists when: 1.) When car first starts its day in morning before its fully warmed up (which happens after an hour!) 2.) When its cold outside (35F and below - the colder it is - the worse of a whining sound). The sound can be compared almost to like a jet-engine when it powers up. 3.) The whining happens in 1st and 2nd gears as car accelerates up to 4K RPM and I shift (sound disperses on shift into 2nd) and once 2nd gear starts being used the sound becomes less loud, until it fades out once i switch to 3rd gear.. 4.) When using triptronic (Manual) the sound is worst in 2-3RPM range once car warms up (after 40 minutes) sound is less and less - when using (D) the sound is NOT as noticeable - but thats because (d) shifts in lower RPM then I do when i use triptronic - i usually bring car up to 3-4k RPM when shifting and this whining noise builds up lounder and lounder as the RPMS climb (This is only when im driving!). When I rev the car in Park or N the whining sound does not exist - its only when car starts moving. 5.) The sound starts at 1000RPM and increases its whine up to 4k RPM disperses when shifting - comes back in 2nd gear from 1RPM to 4RPM again and in 3rd gear (once car is moving 40MPH or more) the sound goes away completly. 6.) Again this sound is dependent on the cold weather - the more cold outside it is - the more of a whineeeeeeeeing (jet engine like/supercharger like) sound I get... fking weird... didnt know I had a supercharger in this 4.8is.. I ruled out Generator because it was replaced and problem with whine still here. Ruled out power steering fluid because turning wheel or making a turn has no impact on whining sound and I did not notice any steering issues or fades. Did any of you guys experience this sound/issue?? I have a 2006 bmw x5 4.8is by the way.. Any help on this matter would be GREATLY, greatly!! appreciated.... as its annoying me to the max and I love my car.. ![]()
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I'm certainly no expert but from what you've said I would guess you have a tranny fluid that doesn't perform well when cold. I'd also bet you leave your beast out over night so the cold really sets in (no garage).
But, if it was mine, I'd check the belt first to be sure it isn't the cause (can you hear it with the X running and the hood open standing next to it?), just because that is an easier/cheaper fix. You also might check your engine oil viscosity since it takes so long to warm up. Not related to the whine I'd guess, but getting the right winter oil weight might help warm it up faster and prevent wear during the warm up time. FWIW mine is warm in 2 miles after sitting outside all day no matter what the temp outside. (If the oil is fine I suppose you might have a cooling system thermostat stuck open - again I'm no expert). Hopefully others here can give you more input; I'm just guessing. |
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Thank you so much for your response..... and yes my poor baby has to sit outside in wintertime. I hate it, i tried to rent inside garage but in my area (Brooklyn) interior parking garage rental costs as much as a house rental in other states and its so hard to find one so yes it has to sit outside... I-am sure this is cold weather related 100% as today I sat and warmed car up for 15 minutes, until the water level got out of the blue, and the oil temp gauge moved by a few millimeters. (4.8is) - when i started driving the sound was 1/4 not as bad as yesterday, when i started car, waited 20 seconds, and started to drive it right away the whining sound was loud.. Todays morning temp was same as yesterday 29F. So this is def affected by the cold weather - if car is cold it will whine in 1st and 2 gear on accerelation - once it warms up the sound is less - once its fully warmed up - the sound is almost non existant.. I was recommended to replace the transfer case fluid/oil - drive 500-1000 miles - and see if it helps.. so I guess that is something I will have to do, its just that some others drive with the transfer case for 120k+ miles and its ok, I am just at 78k so having to replace the fluid already is giving me a headache. |
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