35d deletes performed by any shops in Texas?

[Thecastle]

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

This! Thank you for someone chiming in - with all the TDI Dieselgate crap that went on the EPA really forced BMW's hand - For all diesels with SCR (urea) injection the federal emissions warranty is 10y / 120k and let me tell you what BMW really doesn't want the EPA knocking on their door -

I won't do the deletes until the emissions warranty is up personally, as long as its not an out of pocket expense. If this is not the case, then delete away, the drive to Raleigh is worth it from what I've heard -

Source? I'm curious as I own a 335d, but as far as I know there is no extended emissions warranty.

[Ricky Bobby]

^Since you're in the last frontier of freedom I wouldn't worry about it in Texas.


I live in a CARB state so these apply, obviously you have to fight the dealer because they will want to pass the bill to you if you needed - but the Federal 8y/80k will cover failed catalysts per the attached, at a minimum.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/warranty.pdf

When we got the service records from the dealer when purchasing it said right on my sheet "if vehicle is registered in a CARB state it is eligible for California Emissions coverage", and said currently active 8y/80k Federal Emissions warranty.

Not trying to get in a pissing match with people just was what I was told, trust me with all the green crap going on nowadays and diesel scandals etc the last thing that BMW wants is the EPA up their ass when their cars are having emissions components fail well before expected life cycle of the vehicle and the owners are told to kick rocks and foot the bill for a few grand per repair.

[ard]

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

^Since you're in the last frontier of freedom I wouldn't worry about it in Texas.


I live in a CARB state so these apply, obviously you have to fight the dealer because they will want to pass the bill to you if you needed - but the Federal 8y/80k will cover failed catalysts per the attached, at a minimum.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/warranty.pdf

When we got the service records from the dealer when purchasing it said right on my sheet "if vehicle is registered in a CARB state it is eligible for California Emissions coverage", and said currently active 8y/80k Federal Emissions warranty.

Not trying to get in a pissing match with people just was what I was told, trust me with all the green crap going on nowadays and diesel scandals etc the last thing that BMW wants is the EPA up their ass when their cars are having emissions components fail well before expected life cycle of the vehicle and the owners are told to kick rocks and foot the bill for a few grand per repair.

There is a page in the warranty booklet (available to anyone online) that tells you which SPECIFIC parts are covered by the CA warranty...it isnt 'everything'.

I do agree that the current 'climate' may be used to leverage BMW in some situations- and may in fact lead to higher than usual 'we will cover as a courtesy' rates.

As to OP, I have little sympathy- driving a car around with errors, lights, codes and black soot- and just hoping for the best- is not a smart plan. Compounding issues, ignoring one after another...you dig yourself into a hole.

Oh, dont play they "only 200 miles and its 200 to the dealer" card.... you start driving at 1 mile to go and DONT TURN IT OFF. You can drive 10000 miles- its STARTING thats the issue

[Thecastle]

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

^Since you're in the last frontier of freedom I wouldn't worry about it in Texas.


I live in a CARB state so these apply, obviously you have to fight the dealer because they will want to pass the bill to you if you needed - but the Federal 8y/80k will cover failed catalysts per the attached, at a minimum.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/warranty.pdf

When we got the service records from the dealer when purchasing it said right on my sheet "if vehicle is registered in a CARB state it is eligible for California Emissions coverage", and said currently active 8y/80k Federal Emissions warranty.

Not trying to get in a pissing match with people just was what I was told, trust me with all the green crap going on nowadays and diesel scandals etc the last thing that BMW wants is the EPA up their ass when their cars are having emissions components fail well before expected life cycle of the vehicle and the owners are told to kick rocks and foot the bill for a few grand per repair.

I didn't mean to offend, I'm just facing another cracked EGR cooler ($600-$800 part) and was hoping BMW was changing its warranty policy...

My car was a California purchased originally so it is covered by the CARB warranty, however the CARB warranty still does not cover the SCR tank (which fails commonly), EGR cooler (which also fails), etc. The CARB requirement more closely aligns with gasoline needs than diesels.

I found out these details because my SCR tank failed at 53K and I asked if it was covered by the california 7/70K extended warranty and the dealer said no, but BMW "goodwilled" most of the cost (charged me only $150 for the tank since it was just out of warranty). The X5's have a service bulletin to extend coverage on SCR tanks to 10/100K because of their high failure rate.

[Ricky Bobby]

Originally Posted by Thecastle

I didn't mean to offend, I'm just facing another cracked EGR cooler ($600-$800 part) and was hoping BMW was changing its warranty policy...

My car was a California purchased originally so it is covered by the CARB warranty, however the CARB warranty still does not cover the SCR tank (which fails commonly), EGR cooler (which also fails), etc. The CARB requirement more closely aligns with gasoline needs than diesels.

I found out these details because my SCR tank failed at 53K and I asked if it was covered by the california 7/70K extended warranty and the dealer said no, but BMW "goodwilled" most of the cost (charged me only $150 for the tank since it was just out of warranty). The X5's have a service bulletin to extend coverage on SCR tanks to 10/100K because of their high failure rate.

Thank you for the deets - I wasn't offended (in this day and age that's hard to admit lol)

The CARB warranty only applies to vehicles registered in states with CARB emissions. Doesn't matter if it was bought in California - if you are in Texas now the CARB warranty would not apply when they look up your VIN in the service records.

Glad to hear about the extended warranty on the X5 SCR tank, but yes I agree with you way too many gizmos and gadgets that should be covered completely no questions asked.

My point was that you might have to make a stink with BMW and muscle them as ard mentioned -

Since diesel emissions is such a hot topic right now, any component of the system that would be failing prematurely (before the "lifecycle" 120-150k miles you are supposed to get out of a DPF) with enough "leverage" BMW NA should be able to be convinced to cover most any of these parts that would contribute to potential excess NOX emissions which is what made the shit hit the fan with VW - And BMW does NOT want the EPA snooping around their headquarters I am sure, even though they were found not to deceive emissions tests.

Do I think if you have 150k miles you will get an EGR cooler goodwilled? Nope - but at half the mileage I would expect to hold firm and go up the chain of command to get one of these components covered even if initially its being told its 100% out of your pocket -

Just my .02

[Thecastle]

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby

Thank you for the deets - I wasn't offended (in this day and age that's hard to admit lol)

The CARB warranty only applies to vehicles registered in states with CARB emissions. Doesn't matter if it was bought in California - if you are in Texas now the CARB warranty would not apply when they look up your VIN in the service records.

Mostly, my 335d was originally sold/purchased in San Diego CA. In California manufacturers are required to put an additional warranty on the car for 7/70K miles. So its actually written as an additional policy that is in effect from the in-service date of the car. Even when the car leaves a carb complaint area the warranty remains in effect, much like the factory warranty. So even though the car has been registered in CA, AZ and now TX it still has the carb warranty in force, as my car is 5 years in service and 54K miles.

I have had the MAF, Exhaust Pressure Sensor, DPF differential pressure sensors, Vacuum hoses for differential sensor, etc. All covered under the CA emissions warranty. (all replaced to fix an EGR triggered SES) however the SCR tank was not covered under CA warranty as its not a listed item. (temp sensor died a few months ago), I was to get the SCR tank partially paid by BMW "good will". I'm not unique in this, I've read of several others having the same thing happen on a CARB registered 335d, which is how I found out I could ask my service adviser if they would cover the items under the CA emissions warranty.

[Ricky Bobby]

^That's pretty cool then and you learn something new every day! The way I read the service records was that it was "eligible" as long as it was registered in a CARB state - pretty cool man!

[Pooslet]

Originally Posted by ard

Wow.

Either of you two have a source for this so called blanket warranty extension???????

There is a huge difference between active tank & supply module and THE ENTIRE DIESEL EMISSIONS SYSTEM.

Love the EPA as a boogeyman...and the VW issues getting weaved into the story.

But let's deal with actual facts, yes?

Ard,
The source for the "component specific" liminted warranty extentions is BMW of North America, LLC. It is a typical form letter with the BMW logo and all contact information and was VIN specific to my 2011 X5 35d. I bought the vehicle used but took the time to update the new owner information with BMW NA so I would get any recalls and updates.

[Dieseldonkey]

Subscribing who does this in Texas!
I'm at 146,000 miles and my x35d dpf is soon out so I want to do this as well.

[jtiffany78]

So this turned into a DIY. I am by no means a professional mechanic and this wasn't a difficult job. It took some time but most of my issues were with the ECU flash. It had an old firmware version so it had to take a couple trips to Bimmer Performance Center to get straightened out. Randall was the guy I worked with and he was awesome! Having done it I'm confident I could knock it out it two days, especially with another set of hands. I'm going to do a write up on the task and add some details I felt were missing from the other posts. I didn't take any pictures, I don't know how folks do that...I'd still be under that thing if I constantly took pics lol. Anyway, feel free to contact me. Might even be willing to take a road trip to help out if you're in Texas��