My turn to do valve seals

[ard]

Originally Posted by wsmeyer

I did not. I went with Elring. Good quality seals and I couldn't justify spending 3z as much for OEM that never last more than 100k miles.

Do you have reports of the new, revised OE seals failing?

[wsmeyer]

Originally Posted by ard

Do you have reports of the new, revised OE seals failing?

I saw some threads discussing it but none of them met my bar for anything definitive. The BMW part number for the seals never changed and there is no mention of it in TIS or an SIB bulletin. I did find someone talking about the N63 seals being exactly the same dimensions but lasted longer. This sounds plausible as the turbo N63 is going to run A LOT hotter on the exhaust side and the rubber on the seals may be a different / better material. I decided not to even go that route as I had no way of verifying they are in fact the same dimensions.

Both Elring Klinger and Victor Reinz are OE suppliers for BMW. When a seal is first introduced they are typically all from the same supplier, but that doesn't last long. Within a very short period of time, all the OE suppliers will be making the seal and the only people who are going to know what supplier they bought them from is the buying group. If they meet the specs BMW considers them interchangeable and uses the same part number. If anyone at a dealership tells you otherwise they are just guessing or passing on hearsay.

That's just my $.02 though, take it for what it's worth lol.

[Entropy]

Originally Posted by wsmeyer

I saw some threads discussing it but none of them met my bar for anything definitive. The BMW part number for the seals never changed and there is no mention of it in TIS or an SIB bulletin. I did find someone talking about the N63 seals being exactly the same dimensions but lasted longer. This sounds plausible as the turbo N63 is going to run A LOT hotter on the exhaust side and the rubber on the seals may be a different / better material. I decided not to even go that route as I had no way of verifying they are in fact the same dimensions.

Both Elring Klinger and Victor Reinz are OE suppliers for BMW. When a seal is first introduced they are typically all from the same supplier, but that doesn't last long. Within a very short period of time, all the OE suppliers will be making the seal and the only people who are going to know what supplier they bought them from is the buying group. If they meet the specs BMW considers them interchangeable and uses the same part number. If anyone at a dealership tells you otherwise they are just guessing or passing on hearsay.

That's just my $.02 though, take it for what it's worth lol.

According to AGA's website, the Elring seals are the way to go. They are an improved design. I think you made the right call.

Which tool are you using for the install? AGA?