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Old 04-04-2019, 03:46 AM
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5W30 Mobil1 ESP / Mobil1 ESP formula

For those using Mobil1 ESP formula 5w30 be aware when you order.

I placed an order for some ESP formula 5w30 with Mobil New Zealand. They sent me some Mobil1 ESP. The bottles look almost identical there is just not "formula" written on it but they are different oil.
The Mobil1 ESP is not LL-04 and has a higher ash content and higher TBN than the Mobil1 ESP formula.
Mobil New Zealand told me they can't get the ESP formula anymore and they dropped the LL-04 approval.

Might be the case in the rest of the world too. I see a lot of shop online selling what they call ESP Formula with a picture of the ESP bottle.
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:35 AM
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Happened a while ago.... Quite confusing.
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Old 04-04-2019, 02:16 PM
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Yep. The new dexos2 rated 5W30 ESP is sadly not comparable to 5W30 ESP Formula.
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