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Old 07-04-2007, 04:54 PM
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I test drove a 2007 x5 3.0 today and I was very disappointed with the power that it had or actually the lack of power... the SUV struggled to gain speed while getting on the freeway & was very noisy doing so.. also it shifted up & down a few times trying to settle in at fwy. speeds... even oon surface roads, i step on the gas & it just does not go... well it does, but very slowly, until it decides to downshift & slam my head into the headrest! The test drive was bad & I am not considering the 3.0 in its current form any longer... now i have to test drive the 4.8...

PS, anyone else notice that there is a delay or hesitation when you step on the gas from a complete stop?
I'd be surprised if more than 2% of X5's sold in the UK are the 3.0i. The torque available from the diesel engine suits a car the size of the X5 so much better. 90% of cars sold in the Uk will be diesel with the remainder most of the remainder the 4.8i.
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Coming out of an 03' Range Rover (BMW 4.4 V8), the X5 3.0 with Sport Pkg seems quicker to me in every way. If I want to drive fast and hard, the X5 would be the last set of keys in the stable I would reach for. I really like the X5 3.0 for what it is. That said, I cannot wait for the 3.0sd to be released in the US for more torqu, better gas mileage AND with the urea injection, better for the environment.
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...the X5 3.0 with Sport Pkg seems quicker to me in every way. If I want to drive fast and hard, the X5 would be the last set of keys in the stable I would reach for. I really like the X5 3.0 for what it is. That said, I cannot wait for the 3.0sd to be released in the US for more torqu, better gas mileage AND with the urea injection, better for the environment.
...even with our ol' 2001 3.0 5 spd, I've never felt underpowered
or at risk in any traffic situ, for nearly 6 yrs and 60K miles. It isn't the
V8, but it's no slug. Maybe that extra 300-400 lbs on the E70 and/or
a new/boggy auto trans are to blame.

If I want fast, I have 3 other choices in the garage. Diff'n strokes...
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Coming out of an 03' Range Rover (BMW 4.4 V8), the X5 3.0 with Sport Pkg seems quicker to me in every way. If I want to drive fast and hard, the X5 would be the last set of keys in the stable I would reach for. I really like the X5 3.0 for what it is. That said, I cannot wait for the 3.0sd to be released in the US for more torqu, better gas mileage AND with the urea injection, better for the environment.
Urea injection?
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one of he reason I havent pull the trigger on the X5 yet, i am prettty sure my wife would disappointed too since she is coming from 04 S4. I really wsh they have just went ahead and put the 3.0 TT in there. 3.0tt with Procede custom tune by Shiv FTW
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All those wishing for diesels should get ready for filling their urea tanks as well as their fuel tanks, at least in North America. BMW and Mercedes have both announced that when they introduce diesels, they will use SCR (with urea injection) to reduce emissions. BMW is reported to be planning a separate tank, similar in concept to the windshield washer tank. It would go many fuel tanks between fills of the urea tank, but it will be an additional cost and something to remember to do. Forgetting to do it is likely to result in the vehicle going into a limp-home mode, with limited power. Mercedes is promoting a disposable urea tank that is similar in concept to a large spin-on oil filter, pre-filled with urea. It is a throwaway, requiring replacement every 10,000 km or so (current projections).

The best part is that the SCR engines will be clean. The worst part is that you will require a tank of cow piss, since urea is commercially produced from bovine urine. Really.
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All those wishing for diesels should get ready for filling their urea tanks as well as their fuel tanks, at least in North America. BMW and Mercedes have both announced that when they introduce diesels, they will use SCR (with urea injection) to reduce emissions. BMW is reported to be planning a separate tank, similar in concept to the windshield washer tank. It would go many fuel tanks between fills of the urea tank, but it will be an additional cost and something to remember to do. Forgetting to do it is likely to result in the vehicle going into a limp-home mode, with limited power. Mercedes is promoting a disposable urea tank that is similar in concept to a large spin-on oil filter, pre-filled with urea. It is a throwaway, requiring replacement every 10,000 km or so (current projections).

The best part is that the SCR engines will be clean. The worst part is that you will require a tank of cow piss, since urea is commercially produced from bovine urine. Really.
Surely you are taking the piss!!! What a cow-ardly thing to say. Adds a whole new dimension to moo juice.
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so that I don't completely hijack another thread, I thought I'd post my further remaining thoughts on the acceleration delay issue here...

Someone mentioned to me that since these "newer" vehicles are drive-by-wire, it causes the delay in acceleration. But I'm interested in why some people don't see the delay at all... or do they?

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when i got rid of the 2000 4.4, i test drove the 3.0 and the 4.8
i drove the 3.0 first and i felt that the power was sufficient and at par to my old 4.4
but when i drove the 4.8, it had that punch or the "wow" factor
that made me settle for it.
is it necessary? no... do i enjoy it? yes
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