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i also looked at the 9500ci...
has nice features and love the stealth install....but i believe you still need a jammer for ultimate protection...(i'm sure it's been discussed extensively on this thread) obviously you need to use it properly in order to avoid pissing off the cops.. i'm thinking about this scenario... the radar detector goes off (obviously alerting you that you may be a target) the jammer interrupts a reading (in case you are the target) for a second or so, thus allowing you some time to slow down to a reasonable speed.. you immediately turn off the jammer to allow the cop to get a reading of your speed.... (because at this point he's either blaming the gun or you) cops usually hit another vehicle in order to confirm that his gun is funtioning properly... and then they come back to you.. and all of this happens within a few seconds... problem is...doing this each and every time the radar detector goes off is alot of work...
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 The fast shut down technique: I do this all the time, but only when Laser is detected. It's not bad, you can set the jammer to 4 or 8 second "jam" and then it turns itself off for 60 sec. I like it on all the time so I have to turn it off. I find it quite effective and have great luck with this combo. BTW, I run a 9500i and the Dual LPP mounted upfront. >>>>LOVE THIS COMBO<<<< Good luck with you choices  they DO workOne older shot in the VW  
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http://radartest.com/article.asp?articleID=8501 Radar jammers DO exist. On F-16s and on Air Force One! And I'm sure Iran has quite a few to try and prevent the inevitable Israeli air strikes on their nuclear facilities. But these are all military grade jammers and are strictly forbidden for civilian use. None of the reputable radar detector companies sell these jammers. Because they are not allowed in any country. Now: if you ARE lucky enough to get your hands on an illegal radar jammer, then kudos! But chances are that if you paid $50 or even $250 for it, it is just a scam. I would imagine a truly functional radar jammer would cost quite a bit more than that.Feel free to correct me if I got something wrong. Of course if you are one of the lucky ones that has a real, geniune radar jammer installed, you've got another potential problem. Aside from risking the stiff traffic ticket for interfering with police radar frequencies, you are also risking criminal prosecution by the FCC. We're talking $$thousands$$ in fines. And a possible jail sentence. So if you really, really want to use a radar jammer, join the Air Force! As far as laser, these are technically NOT jammers either. They do not actively interfere with the laser energy. They are laser DIFFUSERS. They prevent the laser beams from getting a good reflection off your license plates. So they are "passive" in that sense. You are not "actively" interfering with the lasers beams. Last edited by StanF18; 07-18-2008 at 10:21 AM.
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i think you are confused about how the jammers/diffusers/whatever you want to call them work. they send out an active IR light that does interfere with the gun, but this does not break any FCC regulations and therefore is legal. it's not just blocking the 'reflection' but rather also introducing interference light at the same frequency/spectrum... as i understand. and also for the record... having the jammer in the front AND rear... saved me from potentially getting a ticket.... the 9500ci is a pretty good system. i have it fully concealed in my x5 4.8 and it looks great.
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07-18-2008, 06:38 PM
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K40 Calibre Radar/Laser Detector/Diffuser System (UPDATE)
StanF18 (and other interested X5world forum members)
Here is my update, as per your request: For the past 13 months, I have had the K40 Calibre (bluetooth) system with radar/laster detector/diffuser remotely located in both the front and rear of my 2007 Merceded-Benz ML63. I had previously had the hard-wired K40 version in my '04 BMW X5 and decided to use the previous generation laser diffuser and mount it in the rear of the ML63 adjacent to the trailer hitch which nicely conceals it from view. This allowed me to mount the two newest generation K40 laser diffusers in the front of the vehicle behind the grill to give me more coverge and better protection. You need to assume about an 18" radius of laser diffusing around each diffuser. I believe that the system works well with "adequate" protection, although probably not the best protection (determined by earlier advanced warning for radar). I really have no way on knowing how effective the laser diffusing has been so far. During the past year, the front K40 bluetooth radar detector failed and was replaced at no cost to me by K40 and my installer. Also, there is a very annoying alert that occurs occasionally that is not triggered either by radar or laser that K40 cannot explain. Sometimes when it happens it will last more that 60 seconds and is so loud that I end up just turning the K40 system off completely, making me unaware of radar/laser traps, defeating the whole purpose of spending the money to begin with for a so-called top-of-the-line system... (I really think this is unacceptable in a system that costs between $2,000 - $2,400 for the electronics and installation in your vehicle  ). The best part of this system is the true "stealth" installation in the vehicle. My installer removed the instrument cluster and showed me the two white plastic tubes about 3/8" in diameter that are the "sleaves" for each of the directional signal lights. By drilling one 1/4" dia. hole in each tube to insert the K40 system blue indicator light allowed for easy and clear alerts of either radar or laser via the existing turn signal indicators on the instrument cluster, augmenting the audio "beep" and digital voice alert. This approach prevented having to drill any other holes in the instrument cluster or elsewhere on the dashboard that would be visible, and recommend it to you. Since I lease my vehicles I am more sensitive to this issue than those who purchase their vehicles. Ultimately, I would highly recommend that people in this forum interested in this type of system investigate and consider what is the current state-of-the-art for remote radar/laser detector/diffusers: The Escort 9500ci system, which had not yet been released in June 2007 when I bought my K40 Calibre system. Today, if I was in the market for a new system that costs about the same as the K40 Calibre system, I would buy the Escort 9500ci remote system and have it professionally installed. The new Escort system includes a GPS function that will remember locations of both speed traps and buildings with alarm systems that trigger false alarms, as well as traffic camera/photo locations. I hope my experience helps all of you..... Best of luck!  AVB-AMG 
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My current & recent car history: 2020 BMW 440i xDrive Coupe (Wife's daily driver) 2016 BMW X5M (My daily driver) 2014 BMW M6 Coupe (gone) 2013 BWM 335i xDrive Coupe (gone) 2011 BMW 335xi turbo coupe (gone) 2007 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG (gone) 2007 BMW 335ci twin turbo coupe (gone) 2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG (gone) 2004 BMW X5 4.4i (w/full Aero Kit - gone) 2001 BMW X5 4.4i (w/full Aero Kit - gone) 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 Sport (gone) 1961 Mercedes-Benz 190SL (owned for 48 years) Last edited by AVB-AMG; 11-19-2009 at 07:19 PM.
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01-09-2009, 11:09 AM
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ESCORT 9500ci vs. K40 CALIBRE radar/laser systems (My experience)
Well, it has been almost 6 months since my last post here on this topic. After using the professionally-installed stealth K40 CALIBER Bluetooth radar detector / laser detector/jammer in my 2007 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG for the past 18 months I have decided to remove it and purchase a new ESCORT 9500ci remote radar detector / laser detector/jammer system and have it professionally installed.
After having had both the earlier generation K40 hard-wired system on my previous 2004 BMW X5 4.4i I had decided to upgrade to the Bluetooth K40 CALIBRE system for the ML. While I have not had any tickets since I have owned the K40 I have become extremely frustrated with the high number of laser false alarms, (due most likely to the power being drawn from a very fluctuating electrical circuit in the ML), as well as the frequent X-band false alarms (which I can’t do anything about since the state police in my state still use that band for most of their radar). Now, after having experienced my 2nd failure of the front radar detector unit, enough is enough! As I had mentioned in my earlier post, the 1st unit was replaced at no cost to me under the 1-year warranty. But now that it has happened for a second time, rendering the entire system inoperable, makes me realize that there must be a quality control problem with K40 and is inexcusable IMO for such an expensive system. I could have my malfunctioning K40 CALIBRE system repaired but would still have to endure the other very annoying issues. Also, an important fact that I have learned is that detection and jamming of laser is better accomplished by the use of two front-mounted transceivers instead of one. Both the BEL and Escort systems, as well as other newer top-of-the-line units use two transceivers while the K40 Caliber system still only uses one. For these reasons, along with all of the technological advances that have been made by ESCORT in their remote 9500ci system and the additional features, ( i.e. GPS, learning function, traffic light cameras database, etc…), make me realize that my money will be better spent upgrading to that system. I believe that most state police departments are migrating and upgrading to the use of laser as they can afford to, phasing out their radar units. Also, I agree with comments made in previous posts/reviews that 95% of the speed traps use radar and laser aimed at oncoming traffic as opposed to a patrol car running up on you from behind. Therefore the advantage of the rear detector sensitivity on the K40 system is not that important. Finally, being able to understand the frequency and thus the type of radar being detected is a real advantage that both the BEL and Escort systems afford over the V1. The K40 premise that their clients don't want to have too much "stuff" cluttering their vehicles dashboard may be true, but their systems greater vulnerability to laser aimed at a headlight area instead of the front license plate, especially on a large SUV, could mean the difference of an expensive (both $ & points) ticket. Of the current (Jan. 2009), options for concealed/stealth radar and laser detectors w/laser jamming, referred to by the different manufacturers as either "blocking/shifting/diffusing", after performing rather exhausting research, I believe that the ESCORT 9500ci is the current state-of-the art system and will best suit my needs and goals for level of protection, ease of use and benefiting from the current advances in technology. While other systems or combinations of units, (i.e. V1 & Blinder), can achieve similar results I am comfortable with an established company like ESCORT that is highly regarded in their field and will stand behind their products. I am intrigued and impressed with the Escort’s ability to incorporate the GPS capability to add warnings for traffic light cameras, another increasing threat in many locations. I also appreciate its ability to automatically “learn” where false alarms are generated/located and will store those locations in its memory to prevent future false alarms. As important, is the fact that it is “undetectable” by police using the "Spectree Detector Detector”, which comes into play in those few states were radar detectors are illegal. While not as “stealth” as my current K40 installation, from what I have read, heard and seen, the ESCORT 9500ci is a far more sophisticated, accurate, powerful and dependable system. When we are paying around $1,800 - $2,000 for the electronics hardware + installation for these type of systems, I want to make sure that I have selected the best current technology. Now we finally have a test of the K40 CALIBER system that is objective. The 8/06/08 comparison test results from the website RADARTEST.COM that performed a head-2-head test between the K40 CALIBER vs. ESCORT 9500ci has convinced me that my money will be better spent on the ESCORT, (instead of pouring more money into repairing my malfunctioning K40 system). One revelation that amazed me was that when you switch the K40 CALIBRE into “City Mode”, all is does is shut off the x-band detection….! You can read this test and its results for yourselves at: http://radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=100584 Having the protection afforded by one of these systems is truly valuable for those of us who regularly drive long distances, through multiple states with various levels of law enforcement. Several years ago, I had the hardwired K40 radar/laser detector/diffuser system with the surface-mounted "pods" mounted on the horizontal shelf area of the instrument cluster on my 2004 BMW X5 4.4i (Full Aero Kit, Sport Pkg.). The radar detectors worked quite well, but the laser diffuser was priceless! It worked quite well and saved me many $$$ and points on many occasions, easily paying for itself. The best experience I had was while driving south on US Rt. 13 on Maryland's eastern shore. A Maryland State Police speed trap using Laser "zapped" me as I was cruising around 80 mph. As we know, stand-alone laser “detectors” are worthless since the just light up like a Christmas tree, screeching away, essentially only good for saying "you’re busted!" The K40 laser diffuser apparently effectively did what it was advertised to do to the trooper's laser gun. As I slowed down to a speed of approx. 60 mph and approached the troopers, the one holding the laser gun kept aiming it at me then turning it sideways, looking rather quizzically at it, doing this several times, as I drove past trying as hard as I could to suppress a smile. As we continued our trip southward, my wife sarcastically said then that I was one lucky SOB. I hope this extremely long-winded sharing of my experience helps all of you make your selection of a system that works for you. AVB-AMG
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My current & recent car history: 2020 BMW 440i xDrive Coupe (Wife's daily driver) 2016 BMW X5M (My daily driver) 2014 BMW M6 Coupe (gone) 2013 BWM 335i xDrive Coupe (gone) 2011 BMW 335xi turbo coupe (gone) 2007 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG (gone) 2007 BMW 335ci twin turbo coupe (gone) 2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG (gone) 2004 BMW X5 4.4i (w/full Aero Kit - gone) 2001 BMW X5 4.4i (w/full Aero Kit - gone) 2000 Mercedes-Benz E430 Sport (gone) 1961 Mercedes-Benz 190SL (owned for 48 years) Last edited by AVB-AMG; 01-09-2009 at 11:26 AM. Reason: typos
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