Reversing camera Retrofit

[Muz]

Originally Posted by jHamshaw

Still have to pay the dealer for coding,

how long does it take the dealer to do this ? and what did they charge ?

[jHamshaw]

Hasn'n done yet as they need to get some calibration tool from another branch, but I'm expecting 2 or 3 hours labour charge for a progman update (whole car) camera calibraion and and coding for the camera....

[StumpyPete]

Originally Posted by Muz

how long does it take the dealer to do this ? and what did they charge ?

Coding can take 4-6 hours. It's because the whole car gets recoded not just the accessory. If it all goes well then 2 hours is doable I believe. You don't get charged for all of the time though as the technician isn't watching the car the whole time.

[jHamshaw]

Update - seems I fitted everything OK - dealer charged me just 2 hours labour, for a full Progman upgrade prior to fitting, and coding and calibration afterwards - result!

Picture quality is fine in daylight - haven't tried it in the dark yet but expectations aren't high....

[Muz]

Spoke to my stealer today and he quoted me £926+ VAT for the job Thats a total of £1088

[jHamshaw]

It really is an easy self install if you have a little mechanical aptitude (i.e. trim removal/replacement and plug and play wiring) and an ability to follow instructions. There's absolutely no need to remove as much trim as the instructions claim (just inside of tailgate and the bit of fixed back seat side on a 5 seat car - probably not even that on a 7 seater, and the centre vent and trim to get to the back of the computer) , and dealer will be quoting labour based on them.

I got the parts for the "factory retrofit kit" for UK£405 inc. VAT, and dealer charged me 2 hours labour for a full progman update prior to install, plus coding and calibration (special laser tool neededfor this) afterwards. Parts price was discounted, based on a comparison with Cotswold BMW who advertise on various owners sites....

Result is completely as per factory option, with full screen/PDC graphic split with camera view options, all graphic overlays, towbar zoom, etc.

[Muz]

Originally Posted by jHamshaw

It really is an easy self install if you have a little mechanical aptitude (i.e. trim removal/replacement and plug and play wiring) and an ability to follow instructions. There's absolutely no need to remove as much trim as the instructions claim (just inside of tailgate and the bit of fixed back seat side on a 5 seat car - probably not even that on a 7 seater, and the centre vent and trim to get to the back of the computer) , and dealer will be quoting labour based on them.

I got the parts for the "factory retrofit kit" for UK£405 inc. VAT, and dealer charged me 2 hours labour for a full progman update prior to install, plus coding and calibration (special laser tool neededfor this) afterwards. Parts price was discounted, based on a comparison with Cotswold BMW who advertise on various owners sites....

Result is completely as per factory option, with full screen/PDC graphic split with camera view options, all graphic overlays, towbar zoom, etc.

Ok so you rekon £600 ish all up jH?.. I am a plant fitter to trade, and I just didnt fancy pulling my baby to bits but if I could save that much its got to be an option. Thanks for the info anyways

[jHamshaw]

Depends on dealer labour rate (mines is £108 plus VAT per hour!! ) but yes, that's a good ballpark figure....

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by StumpyPete

Coding can take 4-6 hours.

I've always been curious as to how it could possible take so long to update the programming.

Are they using a 20 year old RS232-A serial interface at 300 baud? Do some motors or elecrical items have to physically cycle through moverments or something? is some of the memory really slow/large flash memory?

Does anyone know why it takes so long to update the programming?

Hopefully the day will come when people can update the programming themselves. The Micrsoft/Ford Sync voice control system for phone/media is perhaps a first step, as you can download updates from the internet onto a flash drive, plug the flash drive into the usb port in the car, and the system will update itself using the file on the flash drive.

[Muz]

Originally Posted by Penguin

I've always been curious as to how it could possible take so long to update the programming.

Are they using a 20 year old RS232-A serial interface at 300 baud? Do some motors or elecrical items have to physically cycle through moverments or something? is some of the memory really slow/large flash memory?

Does anyone know why it takes so long to update the programming?

Hopefully the day will come when people can update the programming themselves. The Micrsoft/Ford Sync voice control system for phone/media is perhaps a first step, as you can download updates from the internet onto a flash drive, plug the flash drive into the usb port in the car, and the system will update itself using the file on the flash drive.

Its all complete dealer bluff .. and nothing else. There is no way they they can justify this nonsence. The rates they charge for mechanics is also false,.. all part of the captive market syndrome to boost the manufacturers/dealers income