DIESEL: Is the 4k worth it? It depends.....

[alefcole]

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[alefcole]

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[Christiaan]

A.)
Using hypothetical numbers
Diesel
Cost of fuel (e.g. $4.49/gal) = $0.13 per mile
miles per gallon (e.g. 33mpg)


Premium Gasoline
Cost of fuel (e.g. $3.99/gal) = $0.17 per mile
miles per gallon (e.g. 23mpg)

For 15,000 mile diesel fuel cost = $0.13 X 15,000 = $2,040

For 15,000 mile gasoline fuel cost = $0.17 X 15,000 = $2,608

Over a span of 3 years the resulting saving is around
$1,800 and if diesel prices come down, the savings will
only increase. In addition the diesel driver enjoys the
convenience of having to fill-up less often as well as the
environmental peace-of-mind in knowing that the diesel
emits around 20% less CO2 than a comparable gasoline



so basically no.. acording to the document...
F ITTT!!!! 4.8i gas all the way!!!

[Galion]

I will trade my e70 X5 diesel for a 4.8 soon, even though diesel fuel cost 40% off premiun gas and it represents a big advantage in savings over the gasoline models.

I can't stand my diesel engine. It really stinks while parked with the engine running, but even worse than the smell, is the noise - the engine sounds like a gasoline engine that is just about ripe for scrap – I mean it's simply not pleasant/esthetical, Not for a BMW, Nothing can compare to the sweet exhaust notes coming from a 4.8.

Just an opinion.

[AzNMpower32]

Folks, the 3.0sd is not really supposed to be an alternative to the V8, rather the 3.0si I6, which is frankly, a bit soft on torque. Compared to the N52, the diesel consumes less fuel, gets similar if not better acceleration around town, and is especially designed to be quieter for the NA market. Honestly, I never saw the point of a 3.0si model.

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by Galion

I will trade my e70 X5 diesel for a 4.8 soon, even though diesel fuel cost 40% off premiun gas and it represents a big advantage in savings over the gasoline models.

I can't stand my diesel engine. It really stinks while parked with the engine running, but even worse than the smell, is the noise - the engine sounds like a gasoline engine that is just about ripe for scrap – I mean it's simply not pleasant/esthetical, Not for a BMW, Nothing can compare to the sweet exhaust notes coming from a 4.8.

Just an opinion.

right on.....! , aldough it has lots of torque, (i test drove a armored x5 DIESEL3.0 level III, and it moved like if it had nothing)

3.0i GAS in the other hand, is so slow, its like a minivan imo.....

[Barcius]

Originally Posted by Galion

I will trade my e70 X5 diesel for a 4.8 soon, even though diesel fuel cost 40% off premiun gas and it represents a big advantage in savings over the gasoline models.

I can't stand my diesel engine. It really stinks while parked with the engine running, but even worse than the smell, is the noise - the engine sounds like a gasoline engine that is just about ripe for scrap – I mean it's simply not pleasant/esthetical, Not for a BMW, Nothing can compare to the sweet exhaust notes coming from a 4.8.

Just an opinion.

I agree 100%. I drove the X5 diesel during an event in the BMW factory and the 4.8 is a far superior than the diesel in almost all situations. The only reason to buy the diesel is fuel savings.

[Craig]

I agree 100%. I drove the X5 diesel during an event in the BMW factory and the 4.8 is a far superior than the diesel in almost all situations. The only reason to buy the diesel is fuel savings

That's why I'm going to purchase one if they ever let us know when the new I drive will be available. Diesel here is .46 per gallon more than BP premium.
The only thing I can think of, BMW had some of the old I drives left over and decided to put them in to get rid of them for cost savings.

Craig

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[Fraser]

Depends which diesel you are talking about. 3.0sd (twin turbo diesel) beats the 4.8 hands down. Far superior real world performance performance due to extra 20% torque (at much lower and more useable revs), 40%+ better fuel economy, 40%+ longer touring range. What's more, you can drive the diesel as hard as you like and the economy only goes up by a small percentage, but drive the 4.8 hard and it guzzles fuel at an alarming rate. I've driven both back to back and for me there is no contest. The only place where the 4.8 is better is on the dragstrip and then it's only marginal. According to BMW's own figures, the 4.8 does the standing start kilometre in 26.6 seconds while the 3.0sd takes 27.3 seconds.