Backup camera. Anyone seen any improvement?

[Roadster]

Originally Posted by rh71

please let us know if the extra lighting helps any... because if you put extra light to a bad webcam all it does is wash out an already bad picture.

I think I will have to try several setups to find a decent location with sufficient but not too much light
but as I've said before, the car is scheduled for delivery early February '09, so it will be a while before I can report anything...

[soldmystang]

i have a thought. since this isn't a Greyhound Bus we are all driving here, how about we just ask for better rearview mirrors. the existing mirrors suffer from ground cleareance blind splots. honestly, back-up cameras? i'll skip the fag remarks as difficult as that may be at this moment. an even more beneficial option would be a proximity alert in the rear bumper. oddly enough my 9K pound F350 crew/long bed has yet to back into anything. and lo and behold no camera.

[rh71]

^ hmm what's really the difference between asking for a better rearview mirror and a better backup camera? Aren't we still complaining then?

To be honest, I think people just want something of value after paying for it... I don't know how many ways there is to say this - the thing simply does not deliver. And we have many to compare it to.

[soldmystang]

Originally Posted by rh71

^ hmm what's really the difference between asking for a better rearview mirror and a better backup camera? Aren't we still complaining then?

To be honest, I think people just want something of value after paying for it... I don't know how many ways there is to say this - the thing simply does not deliver. And we have many to compare it to.

no my friend i wasn't complaining. i was calling ya'll fags for bitching about your inability to back the vehicle with confidence.

now, with that said i agree that the visibility to the rear of this vehicle leaves something to be desired. larger mirrors would in fact make the process easier.

and as for value, well i have never felt i am not getting my money's worth as i blister the highways and by-ways. but then again "rh my bro" i did opt for the 4.8.

i have a couple of suburbans that have thrashed rear parts about them. apparently the female species does not have the patience or skill to drive in reverse without colliding with something when driving such a large vehicle. haven't you ever wondered where that stereotype originated?

honestly bro, if you are so disillusioned with your BMW shouldn't you trade it for a Honda Odyssey?

[alewifebp]

Wow dude, going a little off the deep end aren't we? No need to call us names for wanting a feature of our car, which we paid money for, to work as advertised and as well as other manufacturers have been able to do.

[soldmystang]

Originally Posted by alewifebp

Wow dude, going a little off the deep end aren't we? No need to call us names for wanting a feature of our car, which we paid money for, to work as advertised and as well as other manufacturers have been able to do.

God: Timmy, you can have either of the following choices. a 12 inch penis or a back-up camera and a 3 inch penis.

Timmy: I'll take the back-up camera as i see no use for the 12 inch penis and i could use the help with my daily driving application in this vehicle.

God: you are a fag Timmy.

i am sorry, but what does the rest of the world do without a back-up camera? the mere fact that upscale vehicles offer cameras as an option should be the first clue to the pretentious nature of the option.

the E70 is not an overly large vehicle. as a BMW owner, ya'll should realize that some of the over-engineering provided is unneccesary. once the driver commits to every technology gimmick offered they have lost the part of their soul that makes them a driver.

the solution is simple. the camera is a piece of shit. stop ordering it.

[Barcius]

Originally Posted by soldmystang

God: Timmy, you can have either of the following choices. a 12 inch penis or a back-up camera and a 3 inch penis.

Timmy: I'll take the back-up camera as i see no use for the 12 inch penis and i could use the help with my daily driving application in this vehicle.

God: you are a fag Timmy.

i am sorry, but what does the rest of the world do without a back-up camera? the mere fact that upscale vehicles offer cameras as an option should be the first clue to the pretentious nature of the option.

the E70 is not an overly large vehicle. as a BMW owner, ya'll should realize that some of the over-engineering provided is unneccesary. once the driver commits to every technology gimmick offered they have lost the part of their soul that makes them a driver.

the solution is simple. the camera is a piece of shit. stop ordering it.

Is this for real? It owns a Ford pick-up truck LOL. Maybe he or she also thinks Nascar is greatest racing on Earth...

[rh71]

Originally Posted by soldmystang

no my friend i wasn't complaining. i was calling ya'll fags for bitching about your inability to back the vehicle with confidence.

now, with that said i agree that the visibility to the rear of this vehicle leaves something to be desired. larger mirrors would in fact make the process easier.

and as for value, well i have never felt i am not getting my money's worth as i blister the highways and by-ways. but then again "rh my bro" i did opt for the 4.8.

i have a couple of suburbans that have thrashed rear parts about them. apparently the female species does not have the patience or skill to drive in reverse without colliding with something when driving such a large vehicle. haven't you ever wondered where that stereotype originated?

honestly bro, if you are so disillusioned with your BMW shouldn't you trade it for a Honda Odyssey?

You skimmed over the value part by saying you paid a lot for your 4.8. /Golfclap for you, but maybe people spend their extras on other things. Guess what? You paid for things you think are gimmicks too - why? You still miss the point of people wanting something for their money even if you, yourself, do not care. I've been driving an SUV since I was 17, which was 13 years ago and have never backed into anything. It's not about depending solely on the camera. It's about getting something you paid for. With the tech pkg, we got nav, pdc, and the camera - the camera being a nice peace-of-mind for when your children are outside playing and you don't have a desire to run them over. The pkg was an easy decision with the camera being sufficient in daytime, but it is 100% useless at night (broken record inserted), which is NOT the case for practically every other camera on the market. And this is why the complaints persist.

BTW, does anyone of adult age actually say "fag"? I don't understand why that would play a part in being able to back up without assistance anyway. It's supposed to be used to ensure nothing is there (which you admitted was a problem), not to watch while you're actually backing up. But wait, we can't even do that cause it sucks hard (adolescent language for ya).

[rh71]

Originally Posted by soldmystang

the solution is simple. the camera is a piece of shit. stop ordering it.

Oh you're one of those. Ever wonder why things are improved? Because people don't stand for it. Excuse me for wanting the perfect vehicle for me (honestly, it would be).

Thanks though, for thread crapping, because we can show BMWNA how mature of a board we are - to take us seriously because we are - by showing them examples of threads like this. Brilliant work.

[MrX]

Originally Posted by rh71

Oh you're one of those. Ever wonder why things are improved? Because people don't stand for it. Excuse me for wanting the perfect vehicle for me (honestly, it would be).

Thanks though, for thread crapping, because we can show BMWNA how mature of a board we are - to take us seriously because we are - by showing them examples of threads like this. Brilliant work.

rh71,

Do not listen to him. It is not worth it replying to a person who has a 2 inch dick, but think that buying a F350 will increase its size. Grow up "bro".