Diesel test drive

[morecowbell]

Fair Enough!!! Solid deal!!!

[genew]

Originally Posted by Craig

I guess they want to keep it exclusive to the X6. I really think the X6 is ugly, but that's my opinion...

Craig

Craig, there are a lot of us out there that think like you do!

[morecowbell]

I'm still not even sure what the x6 is supposed to be...

[Kungen]

BMW X6: Let me try, a car that has a modern design and superior handling (the DPC allow driving pirouettes around all the X5s)

Unless you have a large family, what would be the benefit of the X5 to X6, except a design from the Stone Age...?

Jonas

[rh71]

^ IMO the E70 design is the most modern-looking of all SUVs available on the market. Styling was very important to me and I would not have jumped on the E53 if that was still being sold as the current X5 model. Maybe you're knocking all SUVs as stone age...

I think the problem with the X6 is that the styling/design is in-between what we know as purposeful. This is not to say it is plain ugly... just a really. Even if good looks is in the eye of the beholder, I'm not sure what you can really do with it from a utility standpoint. If you want it to be fast, why make it so large - they are compensating by throwing the latest engineering/technology at it but they created the problem for themselves. If you want it practical, why so little room (passenger max of 4 as well as cargo)? Everyone knows these arguments by now. The only thing I can give it credit for is being "different"... think outside the box, pioneering, right? Good for BMW, but as a buyer... again... You'd have to ask yourself why you bought an X6 over something like a 5-series (bear in mind the X5 will get DPC too)... it's probably just to be different (which really I have no problem with either).

[Kungen]

I would not say the X6 is neither / nor but the opposite, both a spacious 4x4 SUV with all the benefits like xDrive, increased ground clearance, high passive safety due to height and weight (both very important in Sweden with the poorly ploughed roads up north and the mooses), large cargo capacity (yes, it has 570 L (+ 80 L in the spare tire space) vs. 620 L for the X5), high towing capacity (3.500 kg) etc etc in combination with the look, agility and feeling of a coupe. The way it turns in to bends is nothing but amazing. X6 proves it IS possible to be both large and fast and has clearly put a new road handling benchmark for this kind of car.

To be a bit provocative: What do you get additionally with the X5 - a 5th seat (or even 7) and 50 L more in the boot? Personally I would not trade away the sporty handling and dynamic look of the X6 for a marginally better utility, especially since I have no kids yet (maybe getting there soon, at least if my better half should decide... :-).

Just for your information: the 5-series touring has only 500 L cargo space (i.e. 70 L less than the X6), X6 manage higher speed in the "Elktest" than a BMW M5 according to measurements made by Auto Motor und Sport in Germany (thanks to the DPC) and in the last magazine of the german Off-Road they tested the X6 against Jeep Cherokee, Toyota Land Cruiser and Volvo XC60 on snow and ice. The X6 was surprisingly the best car on snow and ice - by margin in the slalom discipline (DPC again...).

So, there is very little argument at least for me to switch over to X5 (which is still missing the DPC --> active safety, still missing the shifters on the steering wheel, IMO still a bit "conservative" in the design) or to 5-series (towing capacity, ground clearance, passive safety, cargo space, outdated model etc). Except different opinions of the design, what is talking against X6?

Of course this is only my opinion (which is a bit coloured...) but it is in fact partly based on pure facts.

[genew]

Originally Posted by Kungen

I would not say the X6 is neither / nor but the opposite, both a spacious 4x4 SUV with all the benefits like xDrive, increased ground clearance, high passive safety due to height and weight (both very important in Sweden with the poorly ploughed roads up north and the mooses), large cargo capacity (yes, it has 570 L (+ 80 L in the spare tire space) vs. 620 L for the X5), high towing capacity (3.500 kg) etc etc in combination with the look, agility and feeling of a coupe. The way it turns in to bends is nothing but amazing. X6 proves it IS possible to be both large and fast and has clearly put a new road handling benchmark for this kind of car.

To be a bit provocative: What do you get additionally with the X5 - a 5th seat (or even 7) and 50 L more in the boot? Personally I would not trade away the sporty handling and dynamic look of the X6 for a marginally better utility, especially since I have no kids yet (maybe getting there soon, at least if my better half should decide... :-).

Just for your information: the 5-series touring has only 500 L cargo space (i.e. 70 L less than the X6), X6 manage higher speed in the "Elktest" than a BMW M5 according to measurements made by Auto Motor und Sport in Germany (thanks to the DPC) and in the last magazine of the german Off-Road they tested the X6 against Jeep Cherokee, Toyota Land Cruiser and Volvo XC60 on snow and ice. The X6 was surprisingly the best car on snow and ice - by margin in the slalom discipline (DPC again...).

So, there is very little argument at least for me to switch over to X5 (which is still missing the DPC --> active safety, still missing the shifters on the steering wheel, IMO still a bit "conservative" in the design) or to 5-series (towing capacity, ground clearance, passive safety, cargo space, outdated model etc). Except different opinions of the design, what is talking against X6?

Of course this is only my opinion (which is a bit coloured...) but it is in fact partly based on pure facts.

I am really glad you are happy with your 6. To each his own.

[Kungen]

Thanks. On the other hand, before buying the X6 I was seriously considering exactly the X5 and 5-series touring (in that order). They are both really excellent cars and the decision was not obvious to me.

In a couple of years I am sure I also have an X5 in my garage and I am also sure I will not be disappointed that day! :-)

All the best to everyone!

[jimsaq]

I've got an X5 but I like the X6 as well for some or all the reasons kungen mentioned. In fact I would consider one next time around since my kids are heading off on their own now and aren't often in the back of the X5 anymore.