Playing MPEG4 Video

[LVR]

look up the definition of delusional..... it's quite apt for you......

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Originally Posted by LVR
Why don't you try the methods outlined using the following Mp4 to DVD for standalone players software tutorials?
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This is a good idea

(LVR rolls eyes) after all this, your 'expert advice', suggestions that don't work, correction of me and rants about knockouts, we get to a solution.....

it's been a fun journey, but I'm glad we're finally there......

Cheers

J

[haigha]

Originally Posted by LVR

look up the definition of delusional..... it's quite apt for you......

I do not need to look up the definition of delusional. You are the one that is deluded in thinking "DVD is MPEG-4." Or have you figured out that doesn't make sense even in the context you wrote it?

(LVR rolls eyes) after all this, your 'expert advice', suggestions that don't work, correction of me and rants about knockouts, we get to a solution.....

Which suggestions did I make that didn't work?

The OP found a solution himself. I provided a few tips that may have helped him including correcting your "DVD is MPEG-4" mistake.

Later, you came up with a solution for those who want to use the DVD changer (which cannot be used with the rear entertainment system, according to the OP).

it's been a fun journey, but I'm glad we're finally there......

A solution was found by the OP on the 21st. You must have missed that part. Your idea is a good one for the DVD changer but it is unlikely to be a better or faster solution for creating DVDs that play in the OP's rear entertainment system. MPEG-4 almost always provides higher quality video than MPEG-2, which is used for standard movie DVDs, at the same resolution and bit rate. Therefore, you can get more movies on one disc at the same quality using MPEG-4 .AVIs.

[LVR]

sigh!!! LVR considers that people like you will continue arguing regardless of the position...further ponders the merits of wasting any further effort on this...... then decides that even a delusional person has the right to remain so and is a source of amusement to me and the others reading this thread...... so tally ho... cannot resist one final comment...

I do not need to look up the definition of delusional. You are the one that is deluded in thinking "DVD is MPEG-4." Or have you figured out that doesn't make sense even in the context you wrote it?

HD DVD - stands for (according to your reference site wiki) High-Definition/Density Digital Versatile Disc

DVD -stands for Digital Versatile Disc.

Can you join the dots?

Notice that there is no mention of DVD in the entire article. Also, there is no mention of MPEG-4 on the DVD article but it does refer to MPEG-2.

If you want to look up definitions, try the one for HD DVD, I think you will find that I am correct as it uses Mpeg-4 AND (is that shouting?) Mpeg-2.

Now, I said DVD is Mpeg-4, and for someone anally retentive I probably should have said HD DVD is Mpeg-4... ok my bad I didn't realize you needed laxatives.

Which suggestions did I make that didn't work?

My apologies for that one.... I misread your post.

The OP found a solution himself. I provided a few tips that may have helped him including correcting your "DVD is MPEG-4" mistake.

See HD DVD definition above....

Later, you came up with a solution for those who want to use the DVD changer (which cannot be used with the rear entertainment system, according to the OP).

Actually had that from day one, but didn't bother due to my impression that the OP had it sorted and someone 'from my field' who claimed to know way more about it than me was on the case..... kind of revealed your true level of 'expertise' with your post below instead of doing as I did and providing a solution....

BTW, here is a good summary of the container formats and which video and audio formats they can contain.

Too bad the changer doesn't support playing back the .AVI videos

it's been a fun journey, but I'm glad we're finally there......

A solution was found by the OP on the 21st. You must have missed that part.

Yet again you miss the sarcasm.... it was directed at you, and in part my observation that the solution hadn't been found as the OP still hasn't got it to play in the other player...... you must have missed that part eh?

Ok then....

haigha, it truly has been a blast and you have entertained me mightily with your myopic interpretation of my original attempts to get further info. I know that you will reply with further arguments. I know that you cannot let it be, and will argue to the last, but I can.....

Cheers

J

[haigha]

Originally Posted by LVR

HD DVD - stands for (according to your reference site wiki) High-Definition/Density Digital Versatile Disc

DVD -stands for Digital Versatile Disc.
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Can you join the dots?

What I wrote was: "HD DVD is not DVD."

"HD DVD" is considered a distinct term from "DVD" in the context of optical discs. It is a source of confusion and is one reason people had trouble understanding that they couldn't play HD DVDs in their existing DVD players. This was one of several advantages BD had over HD DVD and possibly played a minor role in BD's victory in the format war. A clear statement would be "HD DVD was planned as the successor to DVD by the DVD forum."

The definitions in Wikipedia say:

"HD DVD - HD DVD or High-Definition/Density Digital Versatile Disc is a discontinued high-density optical disc format for storing data and high-definition video. HD DVD was supported principally by Toshiba, and was envisaged to be the successor to the standard DVD format."

"DVD (also known as "Digital Versatile Disc" or "Digital Video Disc") is a popular optical disc storage media format. Its main uses are video and data storage. Most DVDs are of the same dimensions as compact discs (CDs) but store more than six times as much data."

If you look at the format and capacities for DVD in its article, you will see that they do not include the ones for HD DVD. Similarly, the HD DVD article does not include those for DVD because they are different animals. In other words, to quote my earlier statement, "HD DVD is not DVD."

Additionally, your belated introduction of HD DVD is a straw man since the OP's problem has nothing to do with HD DVD.

If you want to look up definitions, try the one for HD DVD, I think you will find that I am correct as it uses Mpeg-4 [and] Mpeg-2.

I never wrote that HD DVDs don't use MPEG-4 as a video encoding format. But that doesn't mean your assertion that "DVD is MPEG-4" is valid.

Video in HD DVDs for use in standard HD DVD players can be encoded using any of MPEG-4, MPEG-2 or VC-1. MPEG-4 is not required. So even writing "HD DVD is MPEG-4" is, at best, inaccurate.

Now, I said DVD is Mpeg-4, and for someone anally retentive I probably should have said HD DVD is Mpeg-4... ok my bad I didn't realize you needed laxatives.

The problem with your attempts at sarcasm is they are based on your ignorance and your straw man attempt to introduce HD DVD into the discussion so they fall flat.

The thread was about the DVD rear entertainment system and the DVD changer in a BMW at the time. Nothing to do with HD DVD.

Yet again you miss the sarcasm.... it was directed at you, and in part my observation that the solution hadn't been found as the OP still hasn't got it to play in the other player...... you must have missed that part eh?

I didn't miss your solution: first post "This is a good idea." and second post "Your idea is a good one for the DVD changer but it is unlikely to be a better or faster solution for creating DVDs that play in the OP's rear entertainment system. MPEG-4 almost always provides higher quality video than MPEG-2, which is used for standard movie DVDs, at the same resolution and bit rate. Therefore, you can get more movies on one disc at the same quality using MPEG-4 .AVIs"

Continue to introduce straw man arguments, post juvenile insults, and display your ignorance and boorishness, if you want.

[Christiaan]

then again, no forget it, not taking my time to read ALL THAT!

good luck stop fighting