Should my father...

[LeMansX5]

Originally Posted by RPX5

So my father and I went back into the dealer on friday, and we saw a different 4.8 with sport package. This one was black/black, with full nappa leather (dashboard and all). It also had head up display, 20" staggered w/run flats, cold weather, technology, prem sound, comfort access, and premium package. I think the full nappa leather sold him, that stuff is luxury re-invented.

Needless to say we went back in there today, went over the numbers, and signed some papers.

Here's how we made out:
$75,XXX sticker price
15K miles per year
$5K total out of pocket
$997/month

This includes road hazzard.

They threw in some incentives and waved security deposit (since we have a current company loan through BMW financial.)

I'd really like some input on how we did!! Picking up on Monday, I'll post pictures then.

What is the money factor and residual on this deal?

[BGM]

Surely you didn't pay sticker did you ?

[TaMbALoLoNg]

Originally Posted by BGM

I thought you got a great deal on yours ? Did you not also get the 2.9% ? I figure the payment wouldn't be more than $1100 with $0 down on a fairly loaded 4.8 with an invoice around $62K.

I guess you misunderstood what i said, i meant to say mine was a purchase and my payments are not as much as he would be paying for his lease. i dont like leasing.

[RPX5]

My father ended up getting a beautiful 09 4.8i sport. He loves it, but has a question, and it will be great to get some feedback from those of you who own a similar car.

He finds that the transmission almost slips when accelerating off the line. We took it up to the dealer to see if he may need a software upgrade, but it seems hes up to date. I guess the transmission is automatically tuned to creep off the line in a higher gear, such as 3rd, to reduce "head jerking," and if you give it more gas it drops shifts to compensate. Has anyone heard of this and if so, it is true? It seems like a bunch of BS. My e53 jumps off the line with the slightest touch to the gas, his E70 needs a hard push to get it to feel the same. This is becoming an annoyance because he's burning so much gas while the tach is revving high.

[Penguin]

Have you tried it with the gear shifter pushed to the left for "Sport Mode?" Some people report that this makes the "off-the-line" performance smoother; however, it will have a negative impact on fuel MPG.

[RPX5]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Have you tried it with the gear shifter pushed to the left for "Sport Mode?" Some people report that this makes the "off-the-line" performance smoother; however, it will have a negative impact on fuel MPG.

Yea sport mode is faster off the line, but this car should be more comfortable in drive mode. It just doesn't seem right.

It seems the car has more technology than it knows what to do with.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by RPX5

It seems the car has more technology than it knows what to do with.

I think they are just taking the "Efficient Dynamics" bit a bit too far, compromising performance to get the last little bit, e.g., it looks like the battery problems some people have reported might be due to BMW's attempt for more efficiency by trying to charge only when the engine RPM is falling, or some such thing, e.g., if you charge mainly when decelerating, you get a very small effect similar to regenerative braking.

[BGM]

Originally Posted by RPX5

My father ended up getting a beautiful 09 4.8i sport. He loves it, but has a question, and it will be great to get some feedback from those of you who own a similar car.

He finds that the transmission almost slips when accelerating off the line. We took it up to the dealer to see if he may need a software upgrade, but it seems hes up to date. I guess the transmission is automatically tuned to creep off the line in a higher gear, such as 3rd, to reduce "head jerking," and if you give it more gas it drops shifts to compensate. Has anyone heard of this and if so, it is true? It seems like a bunch of BS. My e53 jumps off the line with the slightest touch to the gas, his E70 needs a hard push to get it to feel the same. This is becoming an annoyance because he's burning so much gas while the tach is revving high.

The mice are just needing to warm their legs up.

[RPX5]

I'm sure it will take some getting used to, dad's bummed about it though. He loves the car, everything about it is gorgeous; Nappa leather everywhere. He'll just have to work on his acceleration game.

oh.. @ BGM

[XXX555]

Originally Posted by RPX5

I'm sure it will take some getting used to, dad's bummed about it though. He loves the car, everything about it is gorgeous; Nappa leather everywhere. He'll just have to work on his acceleration game.

oh.. @ BGM

This lag has been written about here and elsewhere quite a bit, bantering between turbolag v. transmission starting in 2nd gear v. torque convertor problem v. alien mind control. It is real and not a misperception across BMW vehicle models. I have a 335i with the same problem but you essentially forget about it after 5000 miles or so. I was reminded of it again here and realized the lag is still there but I just got used to it for better or worse.