my E70 won't start eeeeek - Page 2

omasou · #11 11-18-2009, 04:09 PM

Battery was probably $100-200, install $50-$100, the remainder was probably to diagnose the problem.

Dealers/Sears/etc test the battery (draw down) and charge before installing. Doubt it was a bad battery on the shelf. But the if the problem still exists, it could certainly drawn down a fresh battery.

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michaeljr6 · #12 11-18-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

Definitely check the battery first.

Are the amps for your subs still in the car? If the were not hooked up properly they could be putting a small but continuous draw on the battery.

Everything was hooked up properly, I've had this system about 2 years in my car without a problem, suddenly about a couple of weeks this problem has started.

michaeljr6 · #13 11-18-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slafredo

Do you have comfort access?

Are you keys stored anywhere near the car?

Yes I have comfort access but I doubt it's the problem as I've had these subs for awhile.

michaeljr6 · #14 11-18-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

Am I missing something? Didn't the OP say he just got a new battery at the dealer?

If so, I doubt the battery is the problem.

Let's see what the dealer says on the follow-up visit...

I also doubt the battery is the problem. They told me they replaced the battery but I'll trust their words. Going tomorrow to see what's up. and i'll be sure to update.

michaeljr6 · #15 11-18-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB

You are correct, still worth testing as they can sit on shelf for a very long time. Next test would be the charging system, could be a bad or underperforming alternator.

would they void the warranty and blame on the subwoofers? would they make me pay for a brand new alternator/starter if it has gone bad?

michaeljr6 · #16 11-18-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redridge

yes, new battery... but a week has gone by with the sub still in the X and has just been recently taken out... all it takes is a couple of hours to kill a brand new battery.

re-reading the OP.... $900 for a battery and a cable? something doesnt sound right.... What cable is it? Does it has something to do with the sub? The dealer is either ripping you off or the sub install was a butcher job...

yes. 900 bucks for a freaking battery/ negative terminal wire. they told me something about a "IBS wire" which my amp damaged because of the aftermarket stereo.

the dealer made no sense, but i just wanted the problem fixed so I coughed up the money

my stereo was installed by CarToys.

michaeljr6 · #17 11-18-2009, 09:30 PM

thank you for all of you who've replied.

michaeljr6 · #18 11-19-2009, 10:38 AM

here is a video.

YouTube - BMW having hard time starting

X-cellent · #19 11-19-2009, 11:10 AM

What engine? My 4.8 barely cranks and just starts right up. I touch the button and let go right away and it starts right up on its own.

You're starter is engaging and cranking so battery/starter issues do not appear to be the problem, it seems more like it's not getting any fuel. If you keep cranking for so long I can see it dragging the battery down then combined with short trips perhaps she's not charging up all the way, but by the video that does not seem to be the issue..

...seems more like a fuel transfer pump not getting fuel from the tank to the injection system (old school diagnosis) or something of that sort..air flow restriction...spark/distribution issue (almost like there's no spark from the plugs)...can't believe dealer can't hook it up and find an issue...

...if the subs, amps and stereo have been in the car for a while, then unless something new has happend with the wiring to short something out I don't know how they could have had a progressive effect on the car, but the stealer will probably use that (again) as an excuse or source of the trouble even if it's not...

How much fuel have you run through the car since this started? I'm wondering if a bad load of fuel could be a problem..had an ML430 years ago and gas station dumped diesel in the premium tank...got a new engine from BP for free!!! That was easy cause it didn't take but 5 minutes to realize there was a problem and i was sitting there in the service station when she went "BOOM", there were about five of us with that problem!!!!I've also had water in my fuel that has been too much for fuel filters to stop and caused issues...maybe worth checking as well...some gas stations will be up front in admitting there is a problem.

Then again the stealer charged you $900 for a battery....IMO I'd park it at the stealers and say fix it, and give me my $$ back for a battery I didn't need or prove that it was the problem.

michaeljr6 · #20 11-19-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by X-cellent

What engine? My 4.8 barely cranks and just starts right up. I touch the button and let go right away and it starts right up on its own.

You're starter is engaging and cranking so battery/starter issues do not appear to be the problem, it seems more like it's not getting any fuel. If you keep cranking for so long I can see it dragging the battery down then combined with short trips perhaps she's not charging up all the way, but by the video that does not seem to be the issue..

...seems more like a fuel transfer pump not getting fuel from the tank to the injection system (old school diagnosis) or something of that sort..air flow restriction...spark/distribution issue (almost like there's no spark from the plugs)...can't believe dealer can't hook it up and find an issue...

...if the subs, amps and stereo have been in the car for a while, then unless something new has happend with the wiring to short something out I don't know how they could have had a progressive effect on the car, but the stealer will probably use that (again) as an excuse or source of the trouble even if it's not...

How much fuel have you run through the car since this started? I'm wondering if a bad load of fuel could be a problem..had an ML430 years ago and gas station dumped diesel in the premium tank...got a new engine from BP for free!!! That was easy cause it didn't take but 5 minutes to realize there was a problem and i was sitting there in the service station when she went "BOOM", there were about five of us with that problem!!!!I've also had water in my fuel that has been too much for fuel filters to stop and caused issues...maybe worth checking as well...some gas stations will be up front in admitting there is a problem.

Then again the stealer charged you $900 for a battery....IMO I'd park it at the stealers and say fix it, and give me my $$ back for a battery I didn't need or prove that it was the problem.

BINGO!!!!!!!!

I just went back and then they told me it was the fuel pump. I'm going to ask for my money back on the $900 for the battery.

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