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Old 02-03-2010, 12:48 PM
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It was the way that a lot of US dominated forums seem to like to 'end' discussions that 'go on forever' where as the UK ones seem to prefer to let these discussions either mature or die of their own accord.
I think it is a function of the technical background of the participants in the forums.

Forums with technical readers tend to stay focussed- side arguments do arise, but they get discussed and then naturally prune back to the main discussion....

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Lots of arrogance on this page. Very interesting. I suppose you had already given this hypothetical so much consideration that this thread is beneath you.

Maybe, we should ignore the issue all together and not waste the server space.

After all, this could never happen to a BMW, a brand known the world over for having reliable electronics that are the envy of the industry.

Sorry, I forgot BMW's commitment to quality for a moment. I guess, I was just to busy trying to figure out why my 1-month old 35d's Nav Screen won't illuminate, and why my front passenger side airbag light won't turn on when no passenger is present, or why my driver's side passenger door won't open when I unlock the vehicle, or....
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:02 PM
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Personally I think your original point warranted discussion but you dilute your credibility when you make inaccurate statements and don't correct or defend them when challenged.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:03 PM
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Lots of arrogance on this page. Very interesting. I suppose you had already given this hypothetical so much consideration that this thread is beneath you.

Maybe, we should ignore the issue all together and not waste the server space.

After all, this could never happen to a BMW, a brand known the world over for having reliable electronics that are the envy of the industry.

Sorry, I forgot BMW's commitment to quality for a moment. I guess, I was just to busy trying to figure out why my 1-month old 35d's Nav Screen won't illuminate, and why my front passenger side airbag light won't turn on when no passenger is present, or why my driver's side passenger door won't open when I unlock the vehicle, or....
Yes, I did give it consideration for about 3 seconds, realized that it's not an issue with BMW's and if it did happen I would simply put the tranny in neutral (or the manual guys could simply push in the clutch), and I moved on with my life.

Eezy peezy.

So yes, there is some arrogance in this thread, some might say it started with the original post and subject line.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:05 PM
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I think it is a function of the technical background of the participants in the forums.

Forums with technical readers tend to stay focussed- side arguments do arise, but they get discussed and then naturally prune back to the main discussion....

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Looking again at the forums I frequent regularly, you may well be right.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:20 PM
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Lots of arrogance on this page. Very interesting. I suppose you had already given this hypothetical so much consideration that this thread is beneath you.
Dude you rock :gu n: : :
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Yes, I did give it consideration for about 3 seconds, realized that it's not an issue with BMW's and if it did happen I would simply put the tranny in neutral (or the manual guys could simply push in the clutch), and I moved on with my life.

Eezy peezy.

So yes, there is some arrogance in this thread, some might say it started with the original post and subject line.
THE SUBJECT LINE WAS CHANGED BY A MODERATOR to include my name. It is not mine, whatsoever. I'm sure there are only a handful of moderators, so confirm with one of them, if you're in doubt

The fact that you've given it 3-seconds thought is great and was the intent. I'm glad you're now aware of the fact the vehicle can possibly be put into neutral while moving at freeway speeds.

I don't read anyone suggesting you spend your life, paranoid, about the issue. However, hindsight knowledge is 20/20, so I'm glad you now know what to do having read the thread, or parts of it.

If you already did know what to do, even before reading this, fantastic. Though, I can guarantee there are those who read this thread who had no clue as to what action to take.

Though I would caution, that it's not been confirmed that the vehicle will allow itself to be put into neutral at speed.

There is dispute over whether or not the vehicle can accelerate if the brakes are depressed, and there is confusion over whether or not pushing the start/stop button can incite a locking of the steering mechanism.

The above are all material issues, that have yet to be answered, beyond simple conjecture.

We all know this is going to change the way in which drive-by-wire systems are designed, and could even lead to cut-off switches in vehicles moving forward, similar to what motorcycles have had for decades.

So, Thunder if you're set, fantastic. My question to you then would be, why even participate at all?

Allow the thread to stay on-topic as was the intent, that is unless another moderator feels it necessary to meddle with a relevant issue.
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I guess the original thread title was changed as it had the word 'OFFICIAL' in it which could have been misleading.

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THE SUBJECT LINE WAS CHANGED BY A MODERATOR to include my name. It is not mine, whatsoever. I'm sure there are only a handful of moderators, so confirm with one of them, if you're in doubt
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I'm aware that it was changed, it was the original thread subject including "OFFICIAL" that I was referring to.

My original statement stands, you're trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and if you're interested in that, have fun. What you don't take into consideration, is that this is an internet forum for discussion where people express their opinions, mine and others included, if you don't like that other people are exercising this right and disagreeing with you, then maybe the internet isn't for you.
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