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Old 02-15-2010, 07:46 PM
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2010 X5 35d resale predicted to be outstanding

See this article from Klipinger and Yahoo.

Best New Car Values 2010: Best Resale Value- Yahoo! Autos Article Page
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:55 PM
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So lets see, Are they saying that after the four years
50K factory warranty is up then the service cost for the first
years is $4,099?

Or what exactly are they saying when they say the Five-year
service cost: $4,099.

Does that include fuel.........I'm Kornfuzed. But I admit that's
not hard to do in my case LOL
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I don't think they're taking into account the free service, in that price.

I agree it will hold good resale value, amongst its 2010 peers. Though, I have some doubts about the figures given.

In 5-years, the odds are that current generation X5-Diesel (if still produced) will be a hybrid diesel.

On the other hand, fuel cell technology, is but a few years away from reality. We're working on fuel cells that produce hydrogen on demand "only," taking the risk of explosion completely out of the picture.

The units are no larger than the battery back on the chevy volt, yet produce 10 to 15 times the power. In fact, the ones I'm working on produce too much power for an automobile and need to be scaled down for automotive use.

Batteries are a short-term solution. Anyway, I agree the X5 is the best deal on the market.

The Toyota Highlander provided good competition in the numbers department, but of course Toyota's future values are, for lack of better words, "in question."
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:29 PM
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On the other hand, fuel cell technology, is but a few years away from reality. We're working on fuel cells that produce hydrogen on demand "only," taking the risk of explosion completely out of the picture.

The units are no larger than the battery back on the chevy volt, yet produce 10 to 15 times the power. In fact, the ones I'm working on produce too much power for an automobile and need to be scaled down for automotive use.

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If you do not mind me prying what company do you work for/with. I am strictly interested from an investment perspective, is it a publicly held company?
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Old 02-15-2010, 09:21 PM
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If you do not mind me prying what company do you work for/with. I am strictly interested from an investment perspective, is it a publicly held company?
I was thinking the same thing
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I can only direct you to the type of technology, I'm referring to: ClearEdge Power: Delivering Smart Energy Today

But, I will say, that this is the tip of a VERY large iceberg and that there are dozens of companies around the world working with "on-demand" hydrogen technology, both public and private.

The "ah-ha" moment was passed some time ago, in terms of having to take you vehicle to a special station to have it filled with hydrogen.

Batteries are a 10-15 yr. fad, at best, due to cost and availability.

As is, the unit I've referenced above is "only" $50k.

Though, for full disclosure I do NOT work for that company, and their technology is not on par with what is being tested now.
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Old 02-15-2010, 08:16 PM
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If their not being accurate in the way they deliver
information the i'm inclined to view their report
as suspect.
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I'm not sure I understand the $4500 credit. I will get a $1800 tax credit on my 2009 taxes....
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Thunder,

You have a point with C&D's testing. I agree with you. But each magazine produces different results. We all know that.

Again, the above are meant to serve as current examples only. Tesla already has mule vehicles that are over the 500 mile range, as do many other companies.

Their current vehicles are truly archaic, and rely upon technology and batteries that have been available for years.

Just like the brand new apple notebook that I'm typing on that cost $2,200.00 and is state-of-the-art, in terms of what's available to the public. This same computer is archaic in terms of what Apple is testing at their facilities about 40-miles away from me, at the moment. In a very real sense my BRAND NEW computer is functionally obsolete.

It's very similar with tesla, and many other companies. There's a lot at stake here, and a lot of secretive stuff going on. For some of these companies the stakes have never been higher, and their future rests upon producing hybrids and electric vehicles ASAP, that are better, cheaper, and more reliable than the competition.

Going back to Tesla, the roadster is old news, even their, as yet to be released, S model is relying on yesterday's technology.

Point being, the range is there now, the cars are being driven now, throughout the world. As to when they'll be released to the public? Very soon...
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:40 PM
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The range isn't there if Tesla gives C&D their latest model and the car realizes only 66% of its stated range.

C&D "testing" was not testing in a traditional sense, it was the writer simply driving from point A to point B back to point A in a real world trip and getting stuck due to the battery not lasting as long as it is supposed to and then being unable to charge it. So the "mags test differently" line doesn't apply.
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