Dead battery, a matter of time....

[kimg9582]

Originally Posted by Craig

That's why I plug mine into a battery tender plus every night.

Good luck,

Craig

Is your X5 a 'hybrid' ???

I make sure I lock the door which seems to minimize this issue.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by kimg9582

Is your X5 a 'hybrid' ???

I make sure I lock the door which seems to minimize this issue.

LOL! No, it's a diesel, but BMW and my local dealer say I need to plug it into a battery charger every night. I think I have the problem taken care of, my new Lexus GX 460 arrived at the dealer today. I'm waiting for the certificate or origin to show up, then I will pick up my new car and trade off my hybrid X5 diesel...

Craig

[rh71]

Originally Posted by Craig

my new Lexus GX 460 arrived at the dealer today

Lexus makes very comfortable cars with good technology, and their service is one of the tops in the industry... but you could've at least gotten a nicer looking SUV.

[ChuckG]

Originally Posted by rh71

Lexus makes very comfortable cars with good technology, and their service is one of the tops in the industry... but you could've at least gotten a nicer looking SUV.

But they weren't smart enough to put software in the computer to make braking over ride the throttle in case of a runaway. It would be a very easy software fix. BMW has had that since 2005 I believe.

Four people here died in a Lexus which went as fast as 120 mph before it crashed.

You won't ever catch me in a Lexus.

Chuck

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by ChuckG

But they weren't smart enough to put software in the computer to make braking over ride the throttle in case of a runaway. It would be a very easy software fix. BMW has had that since 2005 I believe.

Four people here died in a Lexus which went as fast as 120 mph before it crashed.

You won't ever catch me in a Lexus.

Chuck

Chuck

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article739808.ece

[Craig]

Originally Posted by rh71

Lexus makes very comfortable cars with good technology, and their service is one of the tops in the industry... but you could've at least gotten a nicer looking SUV.

I agree, I don't really care for the looks of the GX 460, but the RX is a women's car and the LX is too big and doesn't have HID headlights. This
will be my 6th Lexus and I've had good reliability and durability with the Lexus
vehicles I've owned. That's why I'm buying another. I can't say the same
for the X5. I do like the way it drives, but I can't put up with the reliability
and durability issues. Waiting on parts was another concern. I've never
had to wait more than a day or two for parts on any of my Lexus vehicles.
3 months was too long to wait for a part from BMW. The battery issues
are also unacceptable for a modern vehicle.

Craig

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by Craig

Waiting on parts was another concern. I've never
had to wait more than a day or two for parts on any of my Lexus vehicles.
3 months was too long to wait for a part from BMW.

What in the world did you have to wait 3 months for? They could built you a whole new car in that time.

I replaced the battery on my e53 last week, but it was at least 3 years old (pre-owned). I have not had any battery issues with mine. The e70's may be different.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by FSETH

What in the world did you have to wait 3 months for? They could built you a whole new car in that time.

I replaced the battery on my e53 last week, but it was at least 3 years old (pre-owned). I have not had any battery issues with mine. The e70's may be different.

I agree, I drove around for 3 months with a check engine light for an air temp sensor for the turbo chargers. Total BS! I waited another 5 weeks for a heated fuel filter. Both times I had to call BMWNA and raise hell.
If I hadn't called them, who knows when my parts would have shown up.
Unacceptable...

Craig

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by FSETH

What in the world did you have to wait 3 months for?

Not an excuse, but here's one possible explanation.

With the US Diesel being new, BMW probably did not expect any temperature sensors to be required, since temperature sensors are typically rather reliable and last a long time. From the postings I've seen, it's pretty clear the the temperature sensors were failing at a much greater rate than expected. This probably put them into a shortage position and left BMW with the choice of using the limited inventory to build and sell more vehicles, or to fix existing customers' vehicles promptly. I suspect they gave building and selling more vehicles priority.

In the meantime, either the vendor could not supply more sensors quickly for one reason or another, or BWM wanted a design or manufacturing change to fix whatever was causing them to fail so quickly. BMW would probably put a temperature sensor prone to failure in a new vehicle, if the alternative was to not manufacturer and sell the vehicle (knowing they probably would have to fix a lot of them under warranty later). But they might wait on replacing failed sensors in the already sold vehicles until the new, more reliable design sensor was available.

Yeah, I know doing something like that stinks, but having been in the industry a long time ago, I know how companies would not want to lose a vehicle sale because of not having a reliable temperature sensor.

[Fraser]

Originally Posted by Craig

I think I have the problem taken care of, my new Lexus GX 460 arrived at the dealer today.
Craig

Some people around here call their X5s 'trucks" but the GX460 really is a truck - separate-chassis construction, live axle at the back, low-range gearing. Great off road but pretty sloppy on road compared to the X. In Australia they put different engines in it (a 4.0-litre petrol six and a 3.0-litre four-cyl TD) and call it a Toyota LandCruiser Prado (150 Series). Not trying to put your new ride down as I'm sure you'll find it smooth and comfortable ... and hopefully 100% reliable. Good luck with it.