2010.1 North America Professional DVDs

[GPSnV1]

Originally Posted by brian5

So twice a year, you swap the DVDs? Doesn't sound like a big deal but maybe I'm missing something.

Remembering that OK and AR are on different DVDs, think about the problems this creates on the first and last days of these runs because I make real-time decisions related to hotels, food, fuel based on data from the nav. And what happens if I get a warning and need to detour starting in one state and going to the other (e.g. OK/AR)?

My question is why couldn't they keep us going with a single DVD? It is really true that no updated NavTeq will work in my 2008?

[brian5]

Originally Posted by GPSnV1

Remembering that OK and AR are on different DVDs, think about the problems this creates on the first and last days of these runs because I make real-time decisions related to hotels, food, fuel based on data from the nav. And what happens if I get a warning and need to detour starting in one state and going to the other (e.g. OK/AR)?

My question is why couldn't they keep us going with a single DVD? It is really true that no updated NavTeq will work in my 2008?

OK, I get it now. There is no updated NavTeq for BMW so I think you can forget that.

It seems like BMW should have released the one DVD and the one DVD dual layer as options. That's what they did with the previous version (although the DVD dual layer came out first). From what I've seen posted on other BMW forums, there were a number of cars that problems with the dual layer format which implies that that's why they produced a DVD version as well. This 2010.1 version It has a lot more data than the previous version from NavTeq so there is no way that they have produced a single layer DVD version with all the maps...

If I can find the time, I'll see if I can figure out what I need to edit and combine to try to make one dual layer DVD of this 2010.1 version.

[stockguru]

I think most people are not doing cross country drives and can predominantly use 1 dvd and benefit from less errors and more data.

Having said that, I have a 2008 and am clearly having issues with this 2010 dvd being a lot slower to load and refresh than my old 2008 dvd. Just this morning it took almost 2 minutes for the directions to pull up and then it would freeze in the middle and not reflect where my car was moving towards when I had turned.

No issues with my old 2008.

Perhaps it's bad weather? It might be a problem communicating via satellite? It's been terrible weather here the past week.

[GPSnV1]

Looking at earlier posts and mention made of issues with double-layered DVDs make me wonder if that relates to the fact fact that I was one of those who had to have the dealer replace the DVD drive. The thread about this is about one year old so not sure how to find it unless this is it: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...yer-issue.html

[brian5]

Just FYI for those that are wondering if one dual layer DVD can be created to combine Region 1 and Region 2 DVDs...

I spent some time looking at the configuration files and directories on the two DVDs. They have exactly the same directory and file structure. I looked into the data in the files that I could. I found that all the navigation data is stored within a TABLES directory with the same set of 218 file names -- so that's biggest problem. After editing some files and renaming some others, I combined the two DVDs which resulted in 4.70GB of data (a single layer DVD maxes out at 4.30GB). The dual layer DVD that I created was not recognizable as a navigation disc though.

I'm not saying that someone can't figure out a way to combine this data but I can tell you it'll not be a trivial matter...

[rh71]

^ what if you remove some states that just don't matter?

[brian5]

Originally Posted by rh71

^ what if you remove some states that just don't matter?

There are no file names that identify what state/s that data is for. Going into the raw data, I couldn't identify any states either.

[evolver]

[rant on]
When they charge $1900 for the Navi option, they should be offering map updates for free. For $200 that they ask for the update, one can by a portable navigation unit that is more user friendly and flexible than the OEM solution. Whoever builds software for BMW OEM navigation system needs to hire better usability and MMI engineers.

P2P should do the justice to the poor engineering covered by arm-twisting marketing.
[rant off]

[GPSnV1]

I got a card from BMW about upgrading my nav dvd and when I asked if OK was on a different dvd than AR and other states to the southeast at first I was told no then later yes. I know the op said OK was on #2 dvd but any chance that it is also on #1 even though the dvd sticker does not mention it?

I do agree with the rant by evolver, but my dvd was new last year and really got it wrong in Greensboro and a few other places so an update would be welcome relief.

[brian5]

Originally Posted by GPSnV1

I got a card from BMW about upgrading my nav dvd and when I asked if OK was on a different dvd than AR and other states to the southeast at first I was told no then later yes. I know the op said OK was on #2 dvd but any chance that it is also on #1 even though the dvd sticker does not mention it?

I do agree with the rant by evolver, but my dvd was new last year and really got it wrong in Greensboro and a few other places so an update would be welcome relief.

GPSnV1,

No, OK is not on dvd #1. I just went into the car's Navigation and that state does not exist on there.