2010.1 North America Professional DVDs

[evolver]

[rant on]
When they charge $1900 for the Navi option, they should be offering map updates for free. For $200 that they ask for the update, one can by a portable navigation unit that is more user friendly and flexible than the OEM solution. Whoever builds software for BMW OEM navigation system needs to hire better usability and MMI engineers.

P2P should do the justice to the poor engineering covered by arm-twisting marketing.
[rant off]

[GPSnV1]

I got a card from BMW about upgrading my nav dvd and when I asked if OK was on a different dvd than AR and other states to the southeast at first I was told no then later yes. I know the op said OK was on #2 dvd but any chance that it is also on #1 even though the dvd sticker does not mention it?

I do agree with the rant by evolver, but my dvd was new last year and really got it wrong in Greensboro and a few other places so an update would be welcome relief.

[brian5]

Originally Posted by GPSnV1

I got a card from BMW about upgrading my nav dvd and when I asked if OK was on a different dvd than AR and other states to the southeast at first I was told no then later yes. I know the op said OK was on #2 dvd but any chance that it is also on #1 even though the dvd sticker does not mention it?

I do agree with the rant by evolver, but my dvd was new last year and really got it wrong in Greensboro and a few other places so an update would be welcome relief.

GPSnV1,

No, OK is not on dvd #1. I just went into the car's Navigation and that state does not exist on there.

[GPSnV1]

Originally Posted by brian5

GPSnV1,

No, OK is not on dvd #1. I just went into the car's Navigation and that state does not exist on there.

Well now I am wondering about trying to get GPS and/or Trapster on my iPad or even the new VI beta connection (iPhone only) to help both with nav and with leos as I prepare for a 4K run next month.

[GPSnV1]

I am half way through 4K miles and my 2008 maps have failed multiple times especially in/out/around Florence Myrtle Beach, SC and then Durham followed by Greensboro, NC. I also had issues in Atlanta, more than one place in TN (Memphis, Nashville, Chattanooga, Pigeon Forge) and so on.

It is almost like I would have been better off to print out my routes on Mapquest. That's not what I had in mind when I stopped using a Garmin and purchased the factory navigation.

So if I go with the 2 DVD set and the problem of having to switch disks for OK and AR will the new dvds really solve some of the problems I am getting on this run through OK-AR-TN-GA-SC-NC?

Edited the next morning to speculate on whether the DVD drive is having issues reading what must be a double-layered DVD. That is, the more I think about problems with various destinations I wonder if the DVD is being read correctly. My home dealer replaced the factory DVD drive already but I can hear the DVD start spinning as soon as I get into the vehicle and other times as well even when the nav is not engaged.

[ozam]

Unfortunately, I wouldn't even consider updating.

Even though I have Nav and HUD, my $150 portable Garmin device is infinitely better than the p.o.c. BMW sold us. I tell all my friends looking to buy a BMW to skip the navigation.....does it work...yes, but its functionality is pathetic.

[GPSnV1]

Originally Posted by ozam

Unfortunately, I wouldn't even consider updating.

Even though I have Nav and HUD, my $150 portable Garmin device is infinitely better than the p.o.c. BMW sold us. I tell all my friends looking to buy a BMW to skip the navigation.....does it work...yes, but its functionality is pathetic.

This makes me wonder about using the $50 TomTom app for my iPad 3G and iPhone 3GS (iPhone 4 next month).

Anyone have real-world experience to know how the TomTom app compares with what I have on the 2008 X5 GPS using the 2009 DVD?

It was very frustrating to have spent so much on an X5 and see the FREE BeatTheTraffic app outperform the BMW nav.

Edited to say that TomTom could not tell me what they use so I guess it is radio but that deepens the mystery about what data are used by BeatTheTraffic.
Some related links: How can we provide reliable, complete, timely, and concisely presented traffic data? - and TomTom, portable GPS car navigation systems

[MRV99]

I have the 2010 and it is a Pain in the a$$ because I have trips where I cross from one disk to another. So If you are doing a cross country trip, you have to pick a point near the end of the map enter that location, get to there, stop the car, put in the new disk, let it sit for 5-10 min and then go on.... That is why I keep my 2009 disk in the car at all times.

[ozam]

Even with "heads up" display, I'll take my $150 Magellan any day over my BMW's navigation. It is just better in every way. I've used the Navigation on a 2011 loaner and it is better than my '07, but the user interface is just not very user friendly imho.

[evolver]

BMW needs to hire decent user interface designers. Navigation interface is an epic fail. I would even say that this is the worst $1900 I have ever spent.