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X5X - they're teasing you a little. They're talking about the OEM setup under the hood and trying to convince you that you already have the best setup so that you don't waste your money.
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^^ Dang it, I was just going to take pictures too....
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What about upgrade filters?
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What about upgrade filters?
There really are none. A filter will have to let more particulate past in order to flow more air (given they are he same size/area)... so an "upgrade' in airflow equals a 'downgrade' in filtration.

Plus given the fact that there really isn't much true HP lost in the filter, trading engine protection for a couple of HP seems a false economy.

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^^ Dang it, I was just going to take pictures too....
You know how to take pictures, too??
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Haven't people learned that intake "upgrades" are basically a scam? You let in more contaminants to the motor, for zero to a few HP increases...and more heatsoak if it is a cone filter sitting in the engine compartment.....

It is, however, a perfect mod for people compelled to mod something- anything- just so they can say 'its modded'..
I agree that stock is a great route to go...however with proper care and maintenance, there are aftermarket intakes that will suffice...Dinan for example. Unfortunately, Dinan didn't develop an intake for the E70. An intake alone may be useless except for engine growl but coupled with the right modifications, it will make a difference.

As far heatsoke goes, it's a non factor with street level performance, IMO.
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As far heatsoke goes, it's a non factor with street level performance, IMO.
Elevated intake air temperature from cone filters can result in 5%-10% power loss just in regular traffic (underhood temperature vs outside air temperature). Lots of data is available.
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Elevated intake air temperature from cone filters can result in 5%-10% power loss just in regular traffic (underhood temperature vs outside air temperature). Lots of data is available.
I'm aware...Even with such a setup, i believe there are reduction kits that allow the MAF to read real air temperatures. Not my preferred setup as there are much better alternatives. However, the E70 N/A V8 is limited on performance modification alternatives to begin with (let alone the 3.0)...unless one goes with a powerhouse tuner but with that kind of $$ might as well go for an ///M.

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