My unlucky day...my X5 was hit...

[soldmystang]

Originally Posted by ukwildcat

I don't think it's a question of whether states are "strict" or not.

In North Carolina, we have a BIG BIG problem with this.

Yes, our HUGE population of illegals is part of the problem, although they certainly don't have a lock on the unlicensed / uninsured "market."

As best I can tell, it goes like this..

1. Person lives in state with strict rules on licensing and insurance.
2. Even if that state makes it EASY to get a license legally, regardless of "status"..
3. Person avoids MOST of this trouble by simply not getting a license.
4. No license means no one is going to come after you for not having insurance.
5. Or registration, etc.

<I have to say, it's a clever "solution">

I was once in court for a um.. "minor" traffic violation and saw many such stories paraded before the judge. Two themes were carried out over and over again..

Theme I.
If you HAD a license and otherwise obeyed all the laws, the punishment could range from light to severe. (yes, of course this makes sense, but..)

Theme II.
If you DIDN'T have a license and you were nothing but trouble, it seems that there was very little they COULD do to punish you. Think of it like a HUUUUUUGE loophole.

My favorite case was a gentlemen from - shall we say - somewhere far, far south of NC where English is perhaps not widely spoken, who was up on his *SIXTH* charge of driving without a license. To be fair, there was some dispute as to whether it was FIVE or SIX, but hey..

SIXTH CHARGE. The judge bolted out of his chair and started screaming, red in the face: "He's going to do it again! If I let him go, he'll do it again!"

We all waited very eagerly for an APPROPRIATE punishment! After all, had it been me or you, they probably would have thrown us saps with licenses in jail, given lots of community service maybe, etc.. SOMETHING!

But.. No. The judge, still fuming, ruled "Tell him not to do it again!"

I STILL don't believe what I saw.

But I saw it again and again. No license. No insurance. No punishment.

License? SMACK. Insurance? PAY. Violation? SUFFER

It's not really a fair system.

Predictably, as a result, we have lots and lots and lots of nasty (fatal) accidents, and you can almost WAGER that whoever was responsible didn't have a license. Or insurance. To be fair, it seems MANY people involved in an accident don't have a license. Or insurance. It honestly makes me feel like a fool.

I was rear-ended oh two years ago or so, and that fellow didn't have a license. Or insurance, so I had to pay (and mine went up as a result). At least he had the good sense not to FLEE.

Oh.. But guess what? In NC, if you are guilty of a hit and run, they TAKE YOUR LICENSE!
But as Bob Dylan said, "if you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose!"

<sigh>

if I may, Doc. i really do not believe WE have anywhere near the immigration issues that the OP has, seeing as he is in Southern California.

yes, the Wake County area is indeed seeing more traffic accidents that can be attributed to new residents of our fair area. but as a resident of the town of "Concentrated Accumulation of Relocated Yankees" i'm not sure you get to stand up and bitch quite so loud.

time to vote for the Democrats Doc, because the local GOP ain't been getting it done lately.

[Jeg Norge]

the original offender in the truck probably had no insurance either. crazyyy

[Stevev]

Originally Posted by Jeg Norge

the original offender in the truck probably had no insurance either. crazyyy

He probably did not have insurance too. That is why he hit and run.

[rh71]

^ haha relocated Yankees... it's so true.. I'm on a Long Island forum and everyone who leaves moves to NC. Aren't they just going to have the same problems there eventually?

[soldmystang]

Originally Posted by rh71

^ haha relocated Yankees... it's so true.. I'm on a Long Island forum and everyone who leaves moves to NC. Aren't they just going to have the same problems there eventually?

what? you mean like clogged highways, overpriced homes on postage stamp lots, overcrowded schools, and strip malls as far as the eye can see?

Nah, we don't got that here.

[rh71]

Originally Posted by soldmystang

what? you mean like clogged highways, overpriced homes on postage stamp lots, overcrowded schools, and strip malls as far as the eye can see?

Nah, we don't got that here.

Population got this way for a reason - I think the only thing that won't happen there eventually is the postage stamp lots (we're on an island FFS)... LI wasn't always this populated either. BTW, I don't know where you got overcrowded schools... my graduating class had 150 kids. And there's a school for every town.

Anyway, the rest of us are glad people are leaving - think about it.

[soldmystang]

Originally Posted by rh71

Population got this way for a reason - I think the only thing that won't happen there eventually is the postage stamp lots (we're on an island FFS)... LI wasn't always this populated either. BTW, I don't know where you got overcrowded schools... my graduating class had 150 kids. And there's a school for every town.

Anyway, the rest of us are glad people are leaving - think about it.

yes i understand. and Ya'll are welcome to take them back any time now. while it was probably just a blurb on your local nightly news broadcast, the LI branch of government around here is in a full out blitz to create "a school for every neighborhood". sadly, our neighborhoods are expansive and very, very segregated. needless to say, it isn't going well.

[ukwildcat]

Well, I live in Cary and we have Long Islanders as far as the eye can see.

[tonycajjo]

Originally Posted by ukwildcat

Well, I live in Cary and we have Long Islanders as far as the eye can see.

least no jersey shore types specifically the ones referenced in last nights south park, i laughed pretty good.


glad you're not hurt. sorry bout the X definitely check the wheel balance.

[ring007]

Glad to hear no one was injured. That's what counts. The insurance co will offer you some ridiculously low DV claim of $3k or something similar. i went through this last spring with a loaded '08 4.8i with 10k miles. $20k in repairs and they offered $3k for DV. I told them more like $25k for DV since NO ONE wants to buy a $60k that has been wrecked without a substantial discount. They eventually agreed to total the car and pay me replacement value. All of this will end up on the car fax so I would ask for a LOT for DV.