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Old 11-11-2010, 02:15 AM
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Cool BMW X5 35i or 50i

Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum and I must say that it's refreshing to see that there are still places on the Net where the discussion is smart and civilized. Congrats!

I'm having a hard time deciding between the X5 35i and the X5 50i 2011 (both fully equipped). I drove them both and liked them equally (OK I admit maybe I liked the 50i a little more!). Basically, I love to drive. I don't need to tow stuff on a regular basis but we're planning a cross-Canada roadtrip with a folding camping trailer in 2012 and a roadtrip to Florida this summer (we live in Quebec, Canada). My wife will use it to go to work on a daily basis but it will be the family car on nights and weekends. We usually keep our cars from 6 to 8 years.

Would you say the 50i is worth the higher sticker price? How about the fuel consumption? Is it a lot worse than the 35i?

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

P.S. I also looked at the Cayenne and Cayenne S but, even tough their interior is gorgeous, I found the X5s more fun to drive (plus you get more bang for your $).
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:48 AM
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I am sure the 50i can provide a nice kick in the seat in acceleration, but my philosophy is that if I wanted to drag race, I wouldn't be starting out with an X5 in any case, I would be buying something much lighter. The 35i has plenty of power, the 50i has more. You can tow your fold down fine with a 35i.

If, after your test drive, you were raving about the 50i driving experience, you would have your answer. For the more than $14,000 price premium for two more cylinders, and the 25% higher fuel consumption (BMW figures), I would go with the 35i. BTW, that fuel consumption figure is on the standard test cycle. I suspect that if you use the additional power of the 50i on a regular basis, your fuel consumption results will reflect that use.

Now, how many posts until you get a suggestion to buy the diesel?
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Now, how many posts until you get a suggestion to buy the diesel?[/QUOTE]

Just one! I ordered mine yesterday! I wanted the X6, then after considering my dogs, wanted the 50i, but driving the 35d and the with eco/holiday credits, sealed the deal for me! But, any of them will be just fine! just pick which one you like best!
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Now, how many posts until you get a suggestion to buy the diesel?
Just one! I ordered mine yesterday! I wanted the X6, then after considering my dogs, wanted the 50i, but driving the 35d and the with eco/holiday credits, sealed the deal for me! But, any of them will be just fine! just pick which one you like best![/QUOTE]


Well said. I think this can be a healthy discussion. Back when I was SUV shopping I would have both the current 35i if it were available.

That there was a big ECO rebate/reduction from BMW, a diesel Tax credit from the Feds, gasoline approaching $4 for me and the diesel being the new thing, thats the way I went. Also, I had just sold my 335i and the 35i would have been too similar.

Knowing what I know now, I would have bought the 35d over the 35i because of the way I and it drive even without all the economic incentives.
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Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum and I must say that it's refreshing to see that there are still places on the Net where the discussion is smart and civilized. Congrats!

I'm having a hard time deciding between the X5 35i and the X5 50i 2011 (both fully equipped). I drove them both and liked them equally (OK I admit maybe I liked the 50i a little more!). Basically, I love to drive. I don't need to tow stuff on a regular basis but we're planning a cross-Canada roadtrip with a folding camping trailer in 2012 and a roadtrip to Florida this summer (we live in Quebec, Canada). My wife will use it to go to work on a daily basis but it will be the family car on nights and weekends. We usually keep our cars from 6 to 8 years.

Would you say the 50i is worth the higher sticker price? How about the fuel consumption? Is it a lot worse than the 35i?

I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!

P.S. I also looked at the Cayenne and Cayenne S but, even tough their interior is gorgeous, I found the X5s more fun to drive (plus you get more bang for your $).
Since you are like me and keep your cars a long time (ie past 7 years) you might look at getting a non-aspirated 4.8 as a CPO--the new twin-turbos have not been tested long-term. I picked up 2 months ago an '08 4.8 CPO with only 16K miles on it that was a lease resturn at Beverly Hills BMW for $48K---the sticker 2 years ago was $75K. Just my $.02.
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Also, you should be able to tune the 35i, which would somewhat close the gap on the 50i hp/torque figures.

Then again, you can always tune the 35d as well.
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Also, you should be able to tune the 35i, which would somewhat close the gap on the 50i hp/torque figures.

Then again, you can always tune the 35d as well.
You can always tune the 50i to close the gap with the M

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You can always tune the 50i to close the gap with the M

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Yeah, I thought about that after I posted, but where does it end? I guess you can tune the X5M as well.
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Now, how many posts until you get a suggestion to buy the diesel?
Just one! I ordered mine yesterday! I wanted the X6, then after considering my dogs, wanted the 50i, but driving the 35d and the with eco/holiday credits, sealed the deal for me! But, any of them will be just fine! just pick which one you like best!
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Well said. I think this can be a healthy discussion. Back when I was SUV shopping I would have bought the current 35i if it were available....
I agree it can be a healthy discussion. The 35d is only a $3000 premium, no incentives/grants or tax credits here, and with the improved fuel consumption over the 35i the payback is just over 100,000 km or 60,000 miles, using BMW figures and the same fuel price.

I hadn't mentioned the tuning capability of the 35i and 50i because they are all turbocharged, and so are all tunable, it isn't a differentiator IMO.

A comment to the length of time the OP plans to keep the vehicle: While that is admirable, with the much increased complexity of these vehicles and the lack of any extended warranties for the original purchaser from BMW in Canada, I think a lot fewer people are going to be keeping their vehicles as long. My 535 is a great car, but it is in the last year of the original factory warranty, and that means it is almost time for it to go.
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I hadn't mentioned the tuning capability of the 35i and 50i because they are all turbocharged, and so are all tunable, it isn't a differentiator IMO.
I think the tunability should be considered if cost is a factor. Base price for a 35i is $12,600 less than the 50i. Tune estimates would be about $2,500 or less to get the 35i within about 20 hp and 35lb.ft of torque of the stock 50i. Plus the 35i weights about 400 pounds less than the 50i. I am sure many people will skip the 50i, get a tune on the 35i and have similar performance at a reduced price.
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