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Old 03-15-2011, 06:38 PM
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H&R lowering and wheel alignment

So I got my car dropped using the H&R front springs and shorter links for the rear and it looks awesome.
Took it to the dealer to have a general service done and told them that I needed a wheel alignment since the camber will be off.

Based on the machine the front wheels are off by 1 degree which I have no idea if this is a lot or a little.
BMW is telling me that they cannot bring the wheels back to spec without installing longer control arms for $1200.

Is this true or can I live with the 1 degree variance? Anyone having this issue?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:10 PM
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well I'm not sure if you need longer control arms but it sounds like bmw is bullshiting you big time
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:35 PM
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They are 100% full of shit!!! $1200?? Kinda like when I went to the stealership b/c my front parking sensor was malfunctioning, and they wanted to charge me $160. I asked if I needed a new sensor, my S.A. said..."oh no your sensor is fine you just need to replace a clip" Sure, Nice try!!!

Go to an independent alignment shop and get the car properly aligned for the reasonable price of $75.

Furthermore the minimal drop that you have 1.2" is hardly any extra stress on the control arms, or any other suspension components. I doubt that it would even create accelerated wear on your tires, if you did not get an alignment at all!!

Trust me I have owned several bagged vehicles, drove them around slammed and still caused minimal wear to the suspension components.
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Most vehicles cannot be aligned to within OEM spec after lowering > 1". This is normal. What you want to see on the alignment printout is that camber is near identical between fronts and rears independently. The more important factor for tire wear is 'toe'. Typically, as you lower a multi-link suspension, the geometry dictates that you gain more negative camber (desirable), but also gain 'toe in' (not desirable). Toe in (or out) to a degree larger than dictated by the OEM spec will wear tires like mofo. It basically shreds them.

My previous car had about -1.5 front camber and -2.5 rear camber, but with my aftermarket camber-adjusting kits, I was able to achieve 0 toe, which was excellent for tire wear.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:39 PM
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Front Tyre Wear

Yet again I am seeing the nearside front tyre wear on the outer edge, offside front tyre still OK. This occurred on the first set of tyres and I had the alignment checked at my supplying dealer. Was not expecting it to occur again and now I'm told that there is no camber adjustment - am I being told a pack of lies? Don't want to hi-jack your thread but interested to read about camber checks. It's a UK RHD X5 running on 20" wheels and Bridgestone tyres.
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Old 03-17-2011, 09:27 PM
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Yet again I am seeing the nearside front tyre wear on the outer edge, offside front tyre still OK. This occurred on the first set of tyres and I had the alignment checked at my supplying dealer. Was not expecting it to occur again and now I'm told that there is no camber adjustment - am I being told a pack of lies? Don't want to hi-jack your thread but interested to read about camber checks. It's a UK RHD X5 running on 20" wheels and Bridgestone tyres.
Post the ACTUAL alignment results here, we'll look at them.

If you don't have them, well, that is not good....
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Old 03-18-2011, 10:58 AM
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Post the ACTUAL alignment results here, we'll look at them.

If you don't have them, well, that is not good....
I'll try and get a print out from the dealer next week. Thanks.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:43 AM
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My experience with previous vehicles is opposite to what Ice posted. On a couple of them, I could not get the to align within the factory specs, so I had to install C/C plates to allow adjustment. I tried to get away with it, and it ended up costing me dearly in tires. I don't have a clue how it would affect and X5, but like ARD said, post the results.

My E92 needed an alignment after 30k miles. The SA at my dealership wanted to charge me $500 because he claimed they had an " Uber special " alignment machine. LOL. I said no thanks. I looked up the BMW specs and took it to a neighboring BMW dealership that charged me $150, which is still a bit high. I always tend to doubt what a dealership's SA tells me. I've found that many times, WE on the forums know more than they do.
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