Going to change the oil, where are the jacking pts and oil drain?

[ard]

Originally Posted by JCL

• They say you can use Approved Oils (and provide a list separately, in the maintenance guide and from the dealer) instead of BMW oil.

No, no, no. The ONLY oil listed as "approved" is BMW oil. This is limited to BMW 'high performance 5w30" or the BMW 'slx diesel' or the BMW TWS 10w60. There is no other "Approved Oil" that BMW lists.

The documents that list 'approved' oils contain the same doublespeak about 'approved for top off', and maintains the distinction between that and the BMW oils that are approved for fill. Nowhere in this thread or in any BMW USA/NA publication is there any oil other that BMW that is "approved".

[JCL]

Originally Posted by ard

No, no, no. The ONLY oil listed as "approved" is BMW oil. This is limited to BMW 'high performance 5w30" or the BMW 'slx diesel' or the BMW TWS 10w60. There is no other "Approved Oil" that BMW lists.

The documents that list 'approved' oils contain the same doublespeak about 'approved for top off', and maintains the distinction between that and the BMW oils that are approved for fill. Nowhere in this thread or in any BMW USA/NA publication is there any oil other that BMW that is "approved".

Except that your document doesn't refer to BMW oil as 'approved'. It calls it 'recommended'. It is the non-BMW oils listed that are referred to as 'approved'. And the owner's manual clearly says that you can use approved oils for other than top-up, a distinction that is admittedly murky in the approved oils paper. It also clearly defines a further class of oils as only for top up, but refers to them as 'alternate' and not as 'approved'.

Perhaps we'll just have to agree to disagree.