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05-02-2011, 02:18 PM
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I would still be curious to see the coil output numbers of OEM vs the bavauto...
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05-02-2011, 04:37 PM
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So there is a noticeable difference in feel then? I may consider getting them if I keep the 4.6is, (considering selling in the next year depending on upcoming life changes) and probably will go that route with my 93 325is I got back and am getting back together soon enough. (friend that was buying it wrecked it, couldn't afford to fix it and gave it back)
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05-02-2011, 05:30 PM
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A noticeable difference in feel between the aftermarket coils and new OE parts, or a noticeable difference in feel between the aftermarket coils and worn original parts?
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05-02-2011, 08:59 PM
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Do coils get "worn"? I'm not sure that coils can really get weaker over time rather than just short a winding and go out... If you know differently educate me, I'm always up to learn something new!
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05-02-2011, 09:22 PM
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When my OEM coils drop out at now over 100k miles they are being replaced with left over coils from my mother's 98 528i that were changed at 150k miles... I don't think coils weaken so much as fail. (but I can be proven wrong I guess)
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05-02-2011, 10:09 PM
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The coils do not wear out. They either short out or get an open circuit and sometimes they can be Intermittent. Three of them on my 99 Expedition failed intermittently. As long as the engine runs properly there should be no need to replace them.
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05-03-2011, 01:00 AM
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05-03-2011, 01:44 AM
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I agree that often coils do not slowly wear out, they fail either open or shorted. But they can start to fail and provide a weak spark, if the resistance is not in spec. I've seen that on older vehicles and not these engines, so I don't know how common it is with these particular coils. These are not simply transformers (as asked above) since the primary is DC, not AC. These are induction coils, and the current in the secondary is induced by the collapse of the field in the primary. If the resistance is not to spec, you will not have the correct current flow, and therefore you will not have sufficient current flow from the secondary, resulting in a weak spark. The resistance can be out of spec simply due to the coils being too hot.
Even if it is a complete coil failure, ie no spark, that failure mode can be intermittent, as ChuckG noted, and it can be temperature dependent. You could check coils by measuring the resistance on older vehicles, not sure about these ones. If you do have an intermittent problem on a single coil, or a weak spark from a failing coil, those are the situations that can be improved by installing new coils, making the vehicle feel less sluggish. I would just suggest that if you have a problem with ignition coils, replacing them with either new aftermarket coils or new OE coils will have the same effect. I see little benefit to aftermarket coils over properly functioning OE coils given the sophistication of the ignition and engine management systems.
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