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Old 02-01-2013, 04:18 PM
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Sylvan - sorry that you are having so many problems with yours.Strange that the weight of the 3.5d weights about 200lbs less than the 4.8i V8's from the raw data. Figure that would be in the motor.

I just raised my rears a little more now about 69mm from end link to end link and now I am 27.5 inches from the bottom of the rim to the bottom of the fender since the ground isn't always level. The rears are 27.5" as well and it rides like stock.

My only problem which I have to figure out is why my front is 27.5 on the driver side and 27.75 on the passenger side. Unlike the links with air the springs are the springs. It is a .25" difference which isn't a big deal but with springs I would think that it would be dead on or at least a little closer. I will remeasure again in a week which would mean about about 3 weeks to settle down.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:31 PM
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If you make the links longer does it lower of raise the vehicle? I am laying on my back in the snow freezing my but off doing this....and it seems the little studs are stripped because they want to turn with the nuts?? I managed to get them off and made them each 3 turns longer, but the truck seems lower if anything is how I feel right now. The shop said they tried 3 different settings and said the ball joints were back to stock height....not sure what that effects because the rear is still as low as f@&k I measure it in the exact same spot in my garage every time and I am still at 29.5" ground to fender and I would put the stock links back but I can't get the H&R ones off because they seemed stripped. Like I said I am laying on my Back in the snow freezing trying to figure this out and at this point I have no patience left

The shop also figures it needs an alignment and see if that helps? I have had 10 or more modded vehicles now and an alignment has never changed the ride harshness however BMW aligned it last without asking and they put a lot of negative camber in the rear where after the shop aligned it they had a lot less negative camber...still rode like sh@t both ways. At this point I am looking for any ideas because it pisses me off I am going to be over $1,000 into this with my stock springs back on it one more thing its rear leveling so would the fact the front is low keep the rear from coming up??
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:50 PM
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The longer you make the links the higher the car... but you have to let the car re-level by having it on the ground and unlocking or opening a door to actually see how much it changed. also it helps to drive it around the block and measure then try again.

As long as your car was level from left to right when you started, adjust each of them the same amount of turns each. I've found that 1 full 360 degree turn of the links higher or lower translates to almost a half inch of ride height reduction or addition (atleast on my car... I'm not sure if we have the same adjustable links)

But you definitely have to get the system to relevel before measuring again and a drive around the block should help with that since it will settle.

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Old 02-02-2013, 06:20 PM
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My garage has my car stored for winter so I back the X5 out on the drive way adjust it then drive it back into the garage to measure it. I thought longer would be to raise it so I did 3 full turns of each link. No change in height we just took it for a ride and it still sucks. I might try to put the stock links even if I have to break the H&R one to get them off. I am sure you guys can sense my frustration I have own the X5 for 3 months 2 of them it spent in the shop now it rides so poor I don't even like to drive it anymore. I do appreciate the help though guys
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:29 PM
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My garage has my car stored for winter so I back the X5 out on the drive way adjust it then drive it back into the garage to measure it. I thought longer would be to raise it so I did 3 full turns of each link. No change in height we just took it for a ride and it still sucks. I might try to put the stock links even if I have to break the H&R one to get them off. I am sure you guys can sense my frustration I have own the X5 for 3 months 2 of them it spent in the shop now it rides so poor I don't even like to drive it anymore. I do appreciate the help though guys
You can always buy new adjustable links if you break em. These are the ones I have Home Page $80USD



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Old 02-02-2013, 06:51 PM
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I turned mine 2 turns longer from the recommended H&R setting of 65mm distance as the recommended was too low and caused it to be bumpy in the rears. Now with the 2 turns up they are just right and even with the car.

Sylvan you might not have stripped the nut because when I was trying to loosen the driver side link the inside nut was spinning because I couldn't get the wrench to make a solid contact with the nut and I was turning and turning the outside nut without it loosening. So I thought the same as you. Then I used a thinner wrench to get inbetween it and used a socket to loosen the outside nut and it came out. You might be experiencing the same problem especially on your back and not being able to really have the space to work the wrenches or socket.

3 turns from the factory H&R settings should make yours almost at stock height. The effect was immediate for me when I put the links back in with the two turn adjustment. No waiting for it to adjust up. Once again I measured from the bottom lip of the rim to the bottom edge of the fender up/down from center of rim. I measured 27.5" all around with the exception of the front passenger spring at 27.75". The ride quality definitely improved. Unless there is something going on with your suspension in the back you can immediately see the change. If you measure the 65mm H&R factory setting requirement and then turn two turns up it should sit at the same height at mine at 27.5". I have third row seating so I am not sure how much that affects the weight/height difference from non-third row.

I also aligned my car to a less negative camber to give me more life out of the rear tires. The alignment shop that my friend owns made it easy for me to get under the car to make these adjustments. If you are going to realign your car see if you can get underneath it to get the links loosened and readjusted. Being on your back in the cold would suck and so I can't imagine your frustrations.

Don't give up on it. I was going to buy the adjustable links Skunkd showed but it seems the H&R will do the trick as it was too low on their recommendations. So going up was a breeze.
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I also looked at going with the links skunk pictured, I thought H&Rs would be fine...everything I have read two turns up should solve my issues but mine haven't changed when my shop adjusted it or when I have done it. When it was in the BMW for multiple other issues they noticed the rough right and inspected the rear and couldn't find any issues with the air bags. The aftermarket shop I use is very knowledgeable and the owner had an H&R lowered V8 X5 so he familiar with them and they looked it over and reset the system and looked for codes but didn't find anything wrong?? I am at a loss as it seems I am the only one terribly un satisfied with the H&R ride quality. I love the look but I cringe just thinking of driving it. I also cringe thinkin of going back to stock I also have the third row I will measure from the lip of my rim to the fender when I get home, the sun is starting to go down so it's cooling off quick, I doubt I will mess with it much more today.

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I sit from the ground RR 29.5 LR 29.5 RF 30.25 LF 29.75 the RF sits on a little pad so my wife doesn't drive through the garage wall, when measuring from the wheel lip the fronts are very close to even. From wheel lip it was about 3" less all around so rears about 26.5"
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just to verify this is the part number correct? 50435-4

did you buy them new? It's wierd because mine actually rides almost softer than stock with the h&r's...

then again my car is sitting an inch higher than yours... with the same springs.
I just looked that is the part number I have. at this point I wish it was a wrong part number so at least I would know what's going on.
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Sylvan looks like you are about an 1" lower than me which would make sense why you are riding like crap. I am 27.5" all around. Mine was around 26.75" before I raised it and it was a rough ride. Looks great though!!

Can you get to a place indoors that will allow for you to put it on a lift for a few mins?
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:55 AM
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I just looked that is the part number I have. at this point I wish it was a wrong part number so at least I would know what's going on.
I feel terrible that you are going through all this.

I installed the springs and links myself, and then had to re - adjust one side of the rear since it wasn't sitting level one time. That was a pain enough itself. But to have to go under and tool around with adjustment multiple times would drive me nuts.

Wish there was something we could do to help. You do hear the air system activate when you unlock your doors to enter the car correct?

I just realized I am running 22" wheels with 295/30's up front and 335/25's in the rear. That could explain the height difference of my car to yours. I never took that into account previously since we aren't on the same wheel and tire setup.

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