2011 50: I swapped the RFTS for Conti DWS

[OneFastX5]

I love my Toyos, the thread is amazing! The ride is so smooth and super quiet compared to my previous RFTs...
And for $910 for the whole set in 20" installed I can't see any better deal!

[Naz24]

Originally Posted by OneFastX5

I love my Toyos, the thread is amazing! The ride is so smooth and super quiet compared to my previous RFTs...
And for $910 for the whole set in 20" installed I can't see any better deal!

Yes. I loved my toyos. They lasted about 30k miles. The last 6-7k started getting noisy though.

[brian5]

Originally Posted by doni01

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2- Harshness was also gone with the new rubber. Lot of people here on the forum will tell you that they love their RFT. And how sporty they handle the car, as they make it more stiff just like the sport suspension and so fourth.....I can tell you one thing, having a sport suspension vs the Harshness of the RFT's are two completely different things
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Hmmm. I don't know if I've heard anyone say that they love their RFT. There's been a number, like me, that have chosen to stay with RFT even though we know it's likely be a harsher ride and possibly noisier. (Maybe I've not been bothered by any noise because my car windows are pretty much always closed?). We're accepting those compromises.

I'm not going to go into the reasons that people say that they staying with RFT; that's been covered.

[ChuckG]

I really like my Michelin run flat tires on my X5 35D. I save my love for humans not things like tires. I also like the storage space not having a spare allows (I don't have third row seating. It has probably been over 25 years since I used a spare tire anyway.
Chuck

[Rez]

Originally Posted by seattle

More than a few stories of vibrations with these specific tires (on this board and "the other"). Some folks went as far as replacing control arms, multiple rebalancing, etc, and in the end, it turns out the tire is bad.
Once that is established, there are costs in returning the tire back to tirerack, etc...
I am going off my memory here, but there were threads like that for sure. I will find a couple threads when I have time.

All true, I switched to DWS and enjoyed the improved ride but the annoying vibration was difficult to get rid off. After 4th balance dealer told me the wheel was bent, I bought a new wheel just to find out nothing was wrong with the wheel. Took the car in again and asked them to look at control arms, they were fine. They ended up balancing the car for the 5th time and now it is much better

[Rayvens52]

I am also considering switching to the DWS. I'm new to BMW in general as well as having wider rear wheels then front wheels, I'm assuming since you cannot rotate these tires they will not last as long? Living in the Northeast the RFT suck in snow and was hoping to get all season but wondering if I am wasting money if I cannot rotate them will they just wear much faster.

[ard]

^^ which rft do you have?????????

[Don Nguyen]

Originally Posted by Rez

All true, I switched to DWS and enjoyed the improved ride but the annoying vibration was difficult to get rid off. After 4th balance dealer told me the wheel was bent, I bought a new wheel just to find out nothing was wrong with the wheel. Took the car in again and asked them to look at control arms, they were fine. They ended up balancing the car for the 5th time and now it is much better

If you ever have issues with wheel vibration, take it to a place that uses a hunter road force balancing machine, so they can properly try to balance it or determine what is wrong with the wheel. That's the only way I have my wheels balanced.

[Rayvens52]

Originally Posted by ard

^^ which rft do you have?????????

I have the bridgestone now and in the last two snow storms they were very bad. I slid on two occasions and almost crashed on one.

If I were to go with the DWS with different size front and rears would they have a much shorter life span?

[brian5]

Originally Posted by Rayvens52

I have the bridgestone now and in the last two snow storms they were very bad. I slid on two occasions and almost crashed on one.

If I were to go with the DWS with different size front and rears would they have a much shorter life span?

You have the Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport (which are Summer tires) and you drive those in a snow storm? You're either very brave or you need to do a little research.

Those tires should not be used below 40 degrees and are absolutely useless in the snow. They are not for use in the cold. That's why I change mine to Pirelli Ice & Snow RFT for the winter.

All seasons are fine for most people. And I wouldn't worry about not being able to rotate the wheels. I have seen no reason to rotate mine at all; they wear evenly.