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Bigger is not better
But should it not be an option for those that want it? MB has already shown that the concept works and, one have to asume, is profitable. I would like to see what BMW could come up with for a large SUV.
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But should it not be an option for those that want it? MB has already shown that the concept works and, one have to asume, is profitable. I would like to see what BMW could come up with for a large SUV.
2011 X3 has grown in size and I see next gen X5 growing in size.
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2011 X3 has grown in size and I see next gen X5 growing in size.
Yes and bigger is not better.
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My guess is the "mkt demand" for a longer, bigger X, here in the US or in
Europa, is slim to none and Slim is on the bus. Those full size SUVs you
ref'd aren't exactly flying off the lots.
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I see MB GL450s everywhere, and this is in Mid Missouri! I'm sure an X7 would be a hit here in the U.S.A.
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Since the X5 is struggling to sell ~25k units this year, why would you
think/want BMW to slice that niche mkt further, by pumping out an "X7"?

Do you feel there is really a crowd clamoring for a van sized $80G+
soccer mom/dad car? The X3, the X6, the coming X1; they are all
nibbling at BMW's own "suv brand", imo. Just wondering...
X5's don't sell because all the bean counters are too busy satisfying the stock holders instead of making a reliable product. Its enough that BMW wants $80k for an X6, but god only knows what theyde want for an X7. Before anyone throws the reliability card about an X5 or petential X7 against say a Denali, I'd suggest spending more time reading these forums before saying American cars are garbage. They may not be as taught in the handling department, but who cares when it spends a better part of its life @ the dealership/indy.
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Denali, I'd suggest spending more time reading these forums before saying American cars are garbage. They may not be as taught in the handling department, but who cares when it spends a better part of its life @ the dealership/indy.
I would rather own a Bimmer in the shop than a GM SUV that was available to drive. Just me, but there is a huge difference between the two. Apples and oranges...
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Good to hear the Denali's have satisfied customers. But before
one throws the unreliability card around about an X5 it might be
better to check with the majority of the population who don't
have problems and don't complain. Then add to that the fact
that the X can out perform a Denali on any given day and the
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Before anyone throws the reliability card about an X5 or petential X7 against say a Denali, I'd suggest spending more time reading these forums before saying American cars are garbage. They may not be as taught in the handling department, but who cares when it spends a better part of its life @ the dealership/indy.
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Touche gentleman. I wasn't using the Denali as a concrete example, even though I looked @ a few of those before I chose the X. My point is that people always use the "you get what you pay for" mantra whe they talk about BMW's, but its a disheartening when I read (im a member of like 15 forums, all models) about new and close to new Bimmers being in the shop for anything from light switches to fuel pumps and being turned away from the dealerships. There is even a thread on here about BMW's and their built quality turning into a complete failure...and sadly its true. Ironically, the choice for me to get the X5 over the Denali wasn't performance, handing, etc but more that after it being the 3rd BMW in my stable is that I simply knew what I was getting myself into w/ another M62, or another BMW in general.
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Touche gentleman. I wasn't using the Denali as a concrete example, even though I looked @ a few of those before I chose the X. My point is that people always use the "you get what you pay for" mantra whe they talk about BMW's, but its a disheartening when I read (im a member of like 15 forums, all models) about new and close to new Bimmers being in the shop for anything from light switches to fuel pumps and being turned away from the dealerships. There is even a thread on here about BMW's and their built quality turning into a complete failure...and sadly its true.
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Touche gentleman. I wasn't using the Denali as a concrete example, even though I looked @ a few of those before I chose the X. My point is that people always use the "you get what you pay for" mantra whe they talk about BMW's, but its a disheartening when I read (im a member of like 15 forums, all models) about new and close to new Bimmers being in the shop for anything from light switches to fuel pumps and being turned away from the dealerships. There is even a thread on here about BMW's and their built quality turning into a complete failure...and sadly its true. Ironically, the choice for me to get the X5 over the Denali wasn't performance, handing, etc but more that after it being the 3rd BMW in my stable is that I simply knew what I was getting myself into w/ another M62, or another BMW in general.

Last I heard GM wasn't having a problem filling it's service/repair bays?

All cars have their problems. I would bet the farm there are plenty of "poor GM build quality" threads on the internet. I will say that the more complex BMW's do have some issues, but it could also have something to do with all the electrical and mechanical gizmos packed into the mid and higher level BMW's compared to a Trailblazer or something. The more parts/systems on a car, the more likely there is to be an issue.
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