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Old 01-12-2010, 12:35 AM
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You're missing my point. Brand new X5's cost $15,000 (guestimating) more than say a Denali XL BMW X5 Compare - Summary - MSN Autos, so all my arguement is that with the BMW's costing so much more, seating less, and lower reliability m(Consumer Reports rate the X5 very poorly), so I doubt there will be a market for an X7.
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Actually there are quite a few vehicles that are less reliable
seat less and are more expensive. BMW may be just one of them
But people who buy BMW's already know that and have decided
that what they get in return the handling, power, and the shear
enjoyment of the driving experience makes it worth the money.
These people want more than the low cost reliability of an
appliance to get them from A to B.

You can haul a pack on the back of a Jackass or ride into to
town on thoroughbred. A stallion if you will. Something with
character. None of those things come without drawbacks.
And so it is with BMW's but people keep on buying them.
So I guess BMW costing so much more, seating less,
and lower reliability argument appears to be a wash.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:28 AM
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My overpriced thoroughbred(4.4 - stallion if I had the 4.8/M) has diarrhea (oil separator valve), breathing problems (misfire/lean on all cylinders), bad visibility (burnt pixels), the occasional limp (hard shifting and thump when doing Cali stops) and is extremely thirsty (10-12mpg and demands the good stuff).

I don't really have these problems, I'm just trying to be funny and really need to goto sleep Night all.....
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UGHH denali's. I didnt even bother test driving that hunk all I had to do was peer in the window and see the nav screen that looked like the size of my cell. On top it was 55k. True my x ran up to 62 w boxes ticked but its a 10% premium worth it all day. Plus the seats are huge but somehow uncomfortable. Why do only germans make superb seats? Then try parking that 787 in any reasonable spots. Did I mention I also get a GM discount. Will GM ever make a car I want???Maybe I should ask a clarboyant
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I agree! My brother had a Yukon and got rid of it within a year. For all that size it was so uncomfortable and impractical. Middle seats were the worse, you rode with your knees by your gut because the floor was so high. Soon after he got rid of it, I purchased a Nissan Armada, now that thing was AMAZING!!! More powerful, better and more comfortable while towing, and a lot more room inside!! Better looking too. It was a lot easier to drive and part, almost forget it was so big because the parking and steering was so easy.
LOVE my X5 though!!!!!!!!!!!!! sacrifice the room any day!!!
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Ok, let me get this straight... you say that X1 will be the size of X3, and X3 will be the size of E53, and the X5 is getting bigger... so we will end up having the basic three sizes (small - mid- large) but named X1, X3 and X5 instead of X3, X5 and X7... now that's dumb!! cause that's not in accordance with the BMW 3 5 7 sizing...
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so we will end up having the basic three sizes (small - mid- large) but named X1, X3 and X5 instead of X3, X5 and X7... now that's dumb!! cause that's not in accordance with the BMW 3 5 7 sizing...
It is in accordance with the BMW 1 3 5 sizing though. Wouldn't an X7 be more of a limo bus, instead of just being larger?
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:18 AM
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I agree! My brother had a Yukon and got rid of it within a year. For all that size it was so uncomfortable and impractical. Middle seats were the worse, you rode with your knees by your gut because the floor was so high. Soon after he got rid of it, I purchased a Nissan Armada, now that thing was AMAZING!!! More powerful, better and more comfortable while towing, and a lot more room inside!! Better looking too. It was a lot easier to drive and part, almost forget it was so big because the parking and steering was so easy.
LOVE my X5 though!!!!!!!!!!!!! sacrifice the room any day!!!
Armada's are nice. I sold cars back when those came out, they we're definately fun to drive around in a vehicle that large.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:21 AM
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It is in accordance with the BMW 1 3 5 sizing though. Wouldn't an X7 be more of a limo bus, instead of just being larger?
I still think a 1 series of anything just sounds out of the norm. 3 5 7 has been around for years. I'd like to see a lengthened X5/7 in the rear just for the same reason that I bought my 740iL...rear leg room so the kids can't kick my seat
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I still think a 1 series of anything just sounds out of the norm. 3 5 7 has been around for years.
Absolutely

Besides, and in reply to JCL, The X5 was built upon the 5 series with similar dimensions... but with the new dimensions of the X1 X3 and X5, they do NOT map to the 1 3 5 series in dimensions... they will be much closer to the 3 5 7, but with just the "naming" being shifted downwards... confusing identies for those of us who are systematic in their perception...
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