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TiAgX5 04-29-2015 04:00 PM

Pre-Soak Product for Pressure Washer
 
I just picked up a Karcher K2.360 unit, decided after 30 yrs of hand washing vehicles it's about time to make the job easier.:thumbup:

http://www.amazon.com/Karcher-Electr.../dp/B009RA2H82

That unit without the car wash kit, don't need the brushes & soap, and the only thing I would use that sponge is for grouting a bathroom!!!

I've seen many products on the market and figured I would post here to see what works for you guys.

Thanks in advance, James.

Update; Just unboxed and does NOT come with "snow foam lance", had to order one to do Pre-soak.......

http://www.buykarcher.com/product_de...+KARALLACC&hdr=

Need that to do this......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUkhoAAmB60

motordavid 04-29-2015 08:23 PM

I use a pressure washer on my driveway, and on the lanai...not sure I would fire up my pressure washer to wash the cars.

I still hand wash, and the outside spigot hose pressure is good enough for me.

That pw is ~1600...I have one that is just under 2k: it will take the surface off of a brick paver, close in.
GL, mD

SMOKEY53 04-29-2015 08:45 PM

I've got the same Karcher as you purchased.

When you say 'pre-soak' - are you talking about adding a foam lance to the Karcher?

Foam lance is what I'd use ideally for a pre-soak. The snow foam loosens then lifts all the dirt and debris off the paint, meaning you don't have to agitate with a wash mitt (so no scratching). Get a quality lance, not the plastic Karcher one. Auto-Brite have a quality lance but there are many other rebranded versions of the same thing.

You need a snow foam solution - I use Auto-Brite Magifoam, works well, but the dwell time is insane - it will literally be on your driveway in big foamy blobs for hours afterwards.

I've heard that Optimum No Rinse (ONR) works well in a foam lance - I'll be trying this next as it's uses are endless - bucket wash, snow foam, detail spray etc.

My process is:

High pressure hose the car - snow foam the car with lance - high pressure hose it down - two bucket wash method - water sheet to rinse - leaf blower dry - mop up residue with large waffle weave towel.

Black cars need that level of attention - but with my silver car it's a lot more forgiving!

TiAgX5 04-30-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid (Post 1036234)
I use a pressure washer on my driveway, and on the lanai...not sure I would fire up my pressure washer to wash the cars.

I still hand wash, and the outside spigot hose pressure is good enough for me.

That pw is ~1600...I have one that is just under 2k: it will take the surface off of a brick paver, close in.
GL, mD

I have a gas powered Honda GX-270 (3800psi & 2.5gpm), for cleaning the pool deck & tile/patio, sidewalks/driveway, house brick.....with nozzle around 6ft from surface, would strip the paint off the X if I used it!

Bought the electric Karcher 1600psi just for vehicle/lawn equipment cleaning. I will start with nozzle around 3ft away and go from there (rather leave some grime during first use vs causing damage).

Upon unboxing I found it contains the car wash kit, included a 12oz bottle of Karcher wash & wax, guess I will try that first.

TiAgX5 04-30-2015 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMOKEY53 (Post 1036240)
I've got the same Karcher as you purchased.

When you say 'pre-soak' - are you talking about adding a foam lance to the Karcher?

Foam lance is what I'd use ideally for a pre-soak. The snow foam loosens then lifts all the dirt and debris off the paint, meaning you don't have to agitate with a wash mitt (so no scratching). Get a quality lance, not the plastic Karcher one. Auto-Brite have a quality lance but there are many other rebranded versions of the same thing.

You need a snow foam solution - I use Auto-Brite Magifoam, works well, but the dwell time is insane - it will literally be on your driveway in big foamy blobs for hours afterwards.

I've heard that Optimum No Rinse (ONR) works well in a foam lance - I'll be trying this next as it's uses are endless - bucket wash, snow foam, detail spray etc.

My process is:

High pressure hose the car - snow foam the car with lance - high pressure hose it down - two bucket wash method - water sheet to rinse - leaf blower dry - mop up residue with large waffle weave towel.

Black cars need that level of attention - but with my silver car it's a lot more forgiving!

Thanks Smokey.

I guess I'm "on the hook" with the Karcher foam lance, Karacher has already shipped it out. If I don't like the results I will purchase the Auto-Brite snow foam lance (seen a few demo vids online, that thing makes tons of foam (2oz of solution BURIES a car in a foam mountain!).

Will look into MagiFoam & ONR solution retailers online.

Thanks for the rundown on your process, I will follow these directions.

Looking forward to using this, should cut the car cleaning time by around 80%.

Ricky Bobby 04-30-2015 03:04 PM

James, I have some advice, buy the MTM foam cannon if you are going to soap up the vehicle, this one even comes with the proper Karcher fitting and is designed for Electric PW's.

I just bought a Ryobi 1700psi 1.2 gpm from Home Depot for $128 with a 20% off HF coupon used. Has aluminum pump, brass fittings, and 3 year warranty. Amazing value. Comes with Turbo nozzle, 15 degree, and a soap dispensing nozzle.

I am looking to improve my time and efficiency, as well as use less water. So when I do a pre-rinse, then foam the car, then rinse again. Then I disconnect the hose from the PW, connect my hose end foam gun (Griots or Gilmour), use one bucket as a "rinse" bucket, and just shoot suds into my wash media using the foam gun. Sounds like it takes a while but actually with shut off valves and QC's on the hose, PW, and gun, its probably a 15 minute process to get the whole X done.

Then I disconnect the gun, hook up the gentle rinse nozzle to the PW, and give a final rinse. I do the wheels/tires separately usually and before the actual wash (those do take longer)

We have been speaking on a detailing forum lately about touchless car cleaning, and with a max of 1600psi, you should be able to foam up the vehicle, and if keeping the turbo tip 6 feet or so away from the paint you can probably let the tip and machine do the work for you, doing a touchless wash that is.

Here is the link for the MTM Hydro lance:

MTM Hydro Professional 2600 PSI Adjustable Foamer | eBay

I also have been theorizing lately that I can most likely use an electric leaf blower to blow-dry the car, just need to put a foam filter by the intake in order to make it "filtered" air. Would love to have a Master Blaster to blowdry but not shelling out $400 to do so.

TiAgX5 04-30-2015 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1036335)
James, I have some advice, buy the MTM foam cannon if you are going to soap up the vehicle, this one even comes with the proper Karcher fitting and is designed for Electric PW's.

I just bought a Ryobi 1700psi 1.2 gpm from Home Depot for $128 with a 20% off HF coupon used. Has aluminum pump, brass fittings, and 3 year warranty. Amazing value. Comes with Turbo nozzle, 15 degree, and a soap dispensing nozzle.

I am looking to improve my time and efficiency, as well as use less water. So when I do a pre-rinse, then foam the car, then rinse again. Then I disconnect the hose from the PW, connect my hose end foam gun (Griots or Gilmour), use one bucket as a "rinse" bucket, and just shoot suds into my wash media using the foam gun. Sounds like it takes a while but actually with shut off valves and QC's on the hose, PW, and gun, its probably a 15 minute process to get the whole X done.

Then I disconnect the gun, hook up the gentle rinse nozzle to the PW, and give a final rinse. I do the wheels/tires separately usually and before the actual wash (those do take longer)

We have been speaking on a detailing forum lately about touchless car cleaning, and with a max of 1600psi, you should be able to foam up the vehicle, and if keeping the turbo tip 6 feet or so away from the paint you can probably let the tip and machine do the work for you, doing a touchless wash that is.

Here is the link for the MTM Hydro lance:

MTM Hydro Professional 2600 PSI Adjustable Foamer | eBay

I also have been theorizing lately that I can most likely use an electric leaf blower to blow-dry the car, just need to put a foam filter by the intake in order to make it "filtered" air. Would love to have a Master Blaster to blowdry but not shelling out $400 to do so.

Thanks RB.

That MTM lance looks good (shoots thick foam 20ft!).

I've actually fabbed a foam filter for my gas powerd, 220mph Echo backpack blower. I attempted to used it after a wash 2 weeks ago and found I need the Echo rain gutter kit (2 additional 3ft tubes. 90deg elbow, 1ft tube and flat nozzle), getting the roof & rails blown off is a PITA (even up on a 3 step folding ladder).

I figure if I get a good coat of wax on the X, and "touchless" wash/blow dry every week or 2, the time/effort/water consumption will be reduced.

I got the Karcher unit from Walmart, $130.

Ricky Bobby 04-30-2015 03:52 PM

Yes the MTM is great, that will give you the shaving cream suds.

I've used my Redmax EBZ7500 to blowdry the engine before and it works great but is bulky with the long hose to get the roof, etc so I don't use it on the whole car.

I am looking into 6 hp electric leaf blowers and using a concentrator nozzle from the gutter kit to blowdry.

Btw, bought the gutter cleaning kit from Ridgid for my 16 gal 5hp vac we use in the bunny room, and its the best $30 I ever invested in. I get all my gutters completely cleaned out with only using a 6 ft. ladder and no mess and cleanup on the ground. Amazing.

TiAgX5 04-30-2015 04:04 PM

Yeah, funny how I've needed the Echo gutter kit, for the intended use, for years.

Now that I'm going touchless cleaning with the X, it's ordered. Screwy priorities?

SMOKEY53 04-30-2015 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1036335)
James, I have some advice, buy the MTM foam cannon if you are going to soap up the vehicle, this one even comes with the proper Karcher fitting and is designed for Electric PW's.


Yep, that MTM unit looks the good - and most likely same as the AB snow foam gun. As I said in my post, there are plenty of branded versions of the same unit. They're made in Italy, excellent quality. See how you go with the Karcher supplied unit, but you can really get some nice creamy foam with the adjustment feature on the MTM/AB/etc units.

http://d13z1xw8270sfc.cloudfront.net...1/img_0609.jpg

http://www.chemicalguys.com/v/vspfil.../EQP_304-2.jpg

This chick loves the snow foam.....

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...j6mLvHQmyCObdw


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