Eject Box for X5? - Page 2

KOPrice · #11 10-17-2005, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg

I posted a "final entry" for my BT install with a MOTO E815 here: LINK Mine did not charge at first try either. There is only one eject box. I'm sure yours is correct. I had to change some pins around in the plug that comes from the eject box to get it to charge. These are the changes that I made:

Relocate Pin 5 to 10

Relocate Pin 2 to 17 **

** Keep in mind that I bought the ULF module and wiring harness from Advanced Autovations, and this is the process that they recommended, and it works perfectly for my setup. Try it, maybe it will work for you as well.

SuperGreg (any relation to my hero, SuperDave Osborne?),

I'm not sure I want to screw around with the pins in the eject box ... given that the car has only been in my possession for 3 days, that is ...

I found some other posts in various forums which talk about the difference between eject boxes with a pairing button (for pre-2004) and without pairing buttons (post-2004). I wonder if that may be the problem I have ... apparently the eject box with the pairing button will not charge the phone, while the one with the pairing button will. That might also explain your recommendation to move pins ?

The part number referenced for a box without the pairing button is 84-21-6-933-415. I sent a note off to the dealer's service department (copying the salesman just to make sure he doesn't feel left out

) asking about it. Frankly, I'm not in the mood to drive 25 miles and hang around for a few hours just to be told that 1) the phone isn't charging (duh!) and 2) they have to order the other part.

If someone has the time to look at a working setup in a 2005/2006 and verify my suspicion, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll post results as I get them.

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SuperGreg · #12 10-17-2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOPrice

SuperGreg (any relation to my hero, SuperDave Osborne?),

I'm not sure I want to screw around with the pins in the eject box ... given that the car has only been in my possession for 3 days, that is ...

I found some other posts in various forums which talk about the difference between eject boxes with a pairing button (for pre-2004) and without pairing buttons (post-2004). I wonder if that may be the problem I have ... apparently the eject box with the pairing button will not charge the phone, while the one with the pairing button will. That might also explain your recommendation to move pins ?

The part number referenced for a box without the pairing button is 84-21-6-933-415. I sent a note off to the dealer's service department (copying the salesman just to make sure he doesn't feel left out

) asking about it. Frankly, I'm not in the mood to drive 25 miles and hang around for a few hours just to be told that 1) the phone isn't charging (duh!) and 2) they have to order the other part.

If someone has the time to look at a working setup in a 2005/2006 and verify my suspicion, that would be great. Otherwise, I'll post results as I get them.

I can't blame you. Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.

KOPrice · #13 10-18-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg

I posted a "final entry" for my BT install with a MOTO E815 here: LINK Mine did not charge at first try either. There is only one eject box. I'm sure yours is correct. I had to change some pins around in the plug that comes from the eject box to get it to charge. These are the changes that I made:

Relocate Pin 5 to 10

Relocate Pin 2 to 17 **

** Keep in mind that I bought the ULF module and wiring harness from Advanced Autovations, and this is the process that they recommended, and it works perfectly for my setup. Try it, maybe it will work for you as well.

I talked at length with the parts guy at the dealer today. He is 100% certain that the eject box I have is the correct one. He thinks there is a wiring or connection problem.

I suspect that either the eject box or the snap-in are dead (or otherwise faulty). I took a shot at moving the pins ... no change in the phone's charging status was observed. So I moved them back.

I guess it's off to the dealer for a lengthy conversation along the lines of "Gee, it SHOULD be working ... maybe your phone is faulty ... oh, and we need to order the parts to see if swapping them will solve the problem ... are you sure your phone works?"

Thanks for all your help ... I will post the resolution when and if they get it working.

UCrewX5 · #14 10-18-2005, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOPrice

I talked at length with the parts guy at the dealer today. He is 100% certain that the eject box I have is the correct one. He thinks there is a wiring or connection problem.

I suspect that either the eject box or the snap-in are dead (or otherwise faulty). I took a shot at moving the pins ... no change in the phone's charging status was observed. So I moved them back.

I guess it's off to the dealer for a lengthy conversation along the lines of "Gee, it SHOULD be working ... maybe your phone is faulty ... oh, and we need to order the parts to see if swapping them will solve the problem ... are you sure your phone works?"

Thanks for all your help ... I will post the resolution when and if they get it working.

Try paging TripleX5. Per post number 14 in this thread, he figured out what the problem was - http://www.xoutpost.com/showthread.php?p=41880#post41880

KOPrice · #15 10-20-2005, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5

Try paging TripleX5. Per post number 14 in this thread, he figured out what the problem was - http://www.xoutpost.com/showthread.php?p=41880#post41880

I received some very helpful info from TripleX5 (as always, he's right on top of things!). Unfortunately, his suggestions also failed to get the phone charging.

So, I dropped it off at the dealer this morning, and within an hour received a call that they would need to replace the eject box. It wasn't passing power through it. Of course, the part will have to be ordered.

The good news is that they are going to let me keep their loaner overnight, and save me from a second visit. Think I'll go see if the X3 loaner I'm driving can handle a 60% grade with HDC turned off.

Only kidding.

Thanks to all for your assistance.

mfrymier · #16 10-21-2005, 08:03 PM

I'm sitting here in my living room looking at two different eject boxes:
1) 84-21-6-933-415 (has date 8/04/03 on it)
2) 84-21-6-946-063 (has date 1/12/04 on it)

Both supplied by Crevier. The one ending -415 was NOT compatible with 8/04 build 2004, although I did successfully install the -056 combo BT/Assist TCU.

I'm hoping the -063 works...they are similar but clearly diffferent parts. Also, the FAKRA connectors seem to be identical on both.

p.s. they BOTH have pairing buttons....

KOPrice · #17 10-23-2005, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOPrice

I received some very helpful info from TripleX5 (as always, he's right on top of things!). Unfortunately, his suggestions also failed to get the phone charging.

So, I dropped it off at the dealer this morning, and within an hour received a call that they would need to replace the eject box. It wasn't passing power through it. Of course, the part will have to be ordered.

The good news is that they are going to let me keep their loaner overnight, and save me from a second visit. Think I'll go see if the X3 loaner I'm driving can handle a 60% grade with HDC turned off.

Only kidding.

Thanks to all for your assistance.

Kept the X3 overnight; got call that supposedly fixed X5 was ready at noon Friday. Went to pick it up, did immediate test of new eject box.

Test immediately failed. Waited another hour while they determined that only 8 volts (instead of 12) were going thru eject box to plug in adapter.

Another eject box now on order; return trip to dealer next week.

The story will probably continue ...

KOPrice · #18 11-02-2005, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOPrice

Kept the X3 overnight; got call that supposedly fixed X5 was ready at noon Friday. Went to pick it up, did immediate test of new eject box.

Test immediately failed. Waited another hour while they determined that only 8 volts (instead of 12) were going thru eject box to plug in adapter.

Another eject box now on order; return trip to dealer next week.

The story will probably continue ...

Dropped the car again yesterday; dealer replaced the eject box again. This time the problem is solved. Third time is the charm!