Bluetooth, MOST, CAN-Bus, and iBus systems - Page 4

Tom G. · #31 10-20-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bimerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

i have assist already (as well as the useless SOS thingy), how will this new one change the current system in terms of features/?

We posted on another forum just recently about the features, here's a cut and paste:

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

We are one of only two vendors in the states that source only a specific 9th Generation ULF module sourced from Germany, which are the latest versions available on the market. Most kits use the 552 module, which ceased production back in 2003. You cannot purchase a 9th Generation ULF over a BMW parts counter due to a parts freeze, until the previous generations are sold out.

You probably know already that we are huge fans of OEM integration. The newer 9th Generation modules are compatible with more phones, and have had numerous hardware revisions over the 1st Generation 552 module.

Our Bluetooth kits support the following functions:

- Voice Activated Dialing
- Phonebook Synchronization
- SMS Text Message Display (depending on carrier)
- Name Recognition
- Voice Activated Navigation (vehicles equipped with NAV)
- Digital Notepad

And most importantly - does not void factory warranty, since we are using only Genuine BMW parts.

There are systems out there that use modified ULF boxes, toggle switches, or pieced together kits that is only compatible with a few vehicles or only a handful of phones - we're seen them all.

I run the same 9th Generation system on our website in my M3 w/ NAV, continuly testing with new phones. FYI - we only offer items we would install on our own vehicles. Besides the iPod, this is my favorite device in the BMW.

Depending on model year, there is a specific wiring harness for your BMW as well as Bluetooth antenna and arial wiring. Also included is a 2nd Generation microphone which offers better audio quality and noise cancellation. I know this seems like a lot for a Bluetooth kit, but it shows how much time and effort has been put into the packages. Support for features before and after installation is always available if needed.

The most important piece is the ULF module. Do not run nothing less than a 5th Generation module in your e46, and the latest generation if possible. If you are unsure of the ULF generation, ask for the part number. We have no problem telling you, and have all 9 Generations listed on our website.

More information on the kits can be found on our website:

BMW Bluetooth Retrofit Kit for e46 3-series
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=299

Feel free to respond with any questions you have or contact me directly.

The only difference is that we're now running the 10th Generation systems instead of the 9th Gen units.

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bimerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · #32 10-21-2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom G.

This was on my own M3, which is ibus.

any tips on how you made it work? i got an e86 M which is mostly based on the M3's but won't connect to the nokia e61 phone.

hp1 · #33 10-21-2006, 03:16 PM

I fitted a ck7w handsfree kit and also fitted a cable that cuts out the radio/tv/cd etc and uses the stereo speakers.

It was all very straight forward, the cable for cutting out the stereo was an Elan kit and had all the correct plugs so just un plugged the radio connection and plugged it in, followed instructions and then connected the ck7w kit, took a matter of minutes!
The only hassle I had was I did not want to see any cables anywhere so I put the ck7w under the heater/footwell at the front of the car the cable for cutting out the radio is under the spare wheel?
The mic is mounted where the bmw mic would be and the control button is mounted beside the gear lever, no cables showing anywhere.
I have a navman 520 gps fitted into the sun glasses holder so when you open it the sat nav is sitting in the holder, again no cables showing anywhere, I took power from the interior light and fitted a small push button switch inside the holder to turn off the power so the computer does not detect a power drain.
I have also fitted a radar detector which is mounted up beside the mirror so I do not have to take it out and again power taken from interior light so no cables showing anywhere(I hate seeing cables all over the place)
the power cable for the ck7w I had to extend to the front of the car. Other than that really easy, I did not use a cradle as my wife and my two sons also have bluetooth phones.
When you now start the car the radio cuts out for 15 -25 seconds as the phones pair up then and that is it?

If anyone wants a photo or two of what I have done please let me know.

My next project will be tv screens on the headrests, already have tv onthe move, got the cables for hooking up xbox and dvd player, just to buy the screens....................

pete

Tom G. · #34 10-22-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bimerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

any tips on how you made it work? i got an e86 M which is mostly based on the M3's but won't connect to the nokia e61 phone.

Nothing other than pairing. The e61 is not altered or updated in any way. If you cannot get the phone to pair, I would recommend switching phones or upgrading the ULF to the 10th Generation version which does support it (from testing).

bimerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · #35 10-22-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom G.

Nothing other than pairing. The e61 is not altered or updated in any way. If you cannot get the phone to pair, I would recommend switching phones or upgrading the ULF to the 10th Generation version which does support it (from testing).

what would be the total cost of ownership on this 10th gen. ulf replacement? is the old one worth anything to sell back on the market? mine's gotta be pretty recent, jul production z4m coupe.

Tom G. · #36 10-23-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bimerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

what would be the total cost of ownership on this 10th gen. ulf replacement? is the old one worth anything to sell back on the market? mine's gotta be pretty recent, jul production z4m coupe.

Someone will want your old module, but it will have to be coded to the new vehicle by BMW.

Here is the ULF you need:

BMW Bluetooth "546" 9th Generation ULF Module
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=304

You will lose BMW Assist (worthless feature IMHO) but have the newest BT technology available as they were released only a few weeks ago. The website still states 9th Generation, we are shipping 10th Generation modules/kits.

ambishop · #37 11-03-2006, 02:56 AM

Just to make things more confusing than they already are....There are actually 6 Bluetooth systems from BMW, which are ALL slightly different.

1) BMW Assist/Bluetooth Ibus TCU (starting in late 05 they had male voice recognition). This is the system you get when ordering assist in the US 2006 X5, E46, Z4 (1 version for US CDMA and one for ECE GSM) This module was made by Motorola

2) BMW Assist/Bluetooth MOST TCU system from the new Body style BMWs with MOST bus. This is the system you get when ordering assist in the US e60, e90 ect (1 version for US CDMA and one for ECE GSM) This module was made by Motorola

3) BTUM stupid little dongle deal for cars with the CPT9000 phone system. (only for the US market)

4) BMW Assist /bluetooth for E65. This is only for the E65/E66, but similar to the MOST TCU (1 version for US CDMA and one for ECE GSM) This module was made by Motorola

5) BMW ULF module. I-bus This is the retrofit system that everyone knows. It is the best option for people wanting Bluetooth. no coding needed, bluetooth and full voice recognition. Current version P/N 130 10th Gen (latest version only a couple weeks old) X5, X3, E46, E39, E38, Z8, Z4 (This module was made by Visteon)

6) BMW MULF module MOST bus ULF module. This is the retrofit system for the New body style BMWs. It works great, but needs coding due to fiber optic system in new body style BMWs. P/N 290 is latest version (only a couple weeks old) E60, E63, E90 (This module was made by Visteon)

Martin

SanPedroFlyer · #38 11-19-2006, 02:34 AM

I've been following the trafffic on the ULF and voice recognition and have a couple of questions. First though, my X3 is a European Delivery US model with the premium package, the BMW Assist (ZPP/639) and also the Navigation system. I used the BT capability in Germany with a Motorola V551 phone. It was paired for me at the Munich delivery center.

I have been able to get VR for the phone, but not with the Nav. The system turns off if I try any Nav commands. Also, I think that my ULF (doesn't say ULF anywhere I can tell) which is mounted in the left rear with the Nav computer is made by "Everest." Here's what's on the label on the module as well as what I was provided for "pairing" when the car was delivered.

84.10 9120843-01
232925 23
USA 10.05.2006

BMW EVEREST IBUS US
SW: 31 HW: 50
BT: 00178455A44C
PK: 1658
ESN: 102 - 15259472
"THE BARCODE lines ........"
AUL0017966

To the left of these numbers are the BMW and Motorola Logos and the name Motorola. Also the system console under settings has the following in the upper right part of the screen:

SW 4-1/70

The module appears to be like the picture on this site; looks like there is an antenna connection, etc.

Also my center console does not look like any of the photos I've seen on this site and there are no screws under the rubber pad at the bottom. When the car was re-delivered here in California, my rep tried to get the parts dept to give us the part numbers for the parts required to mount the phone for charging and better antenna. But we were quoted almost $500 for the parts, so I decided to wait.

Can anyone help me understand what I have for a ULF(?) and what parts I need to install the phone in the car. Also, what do I have to do to get the Nav system to accept VR commands.

Thanks,

Pete

ambishop · #39 11-20-2006, 11:23 PM

BMW EVEREST IBUS = BMW TCU

check out http://www.bimmernav.com/What_is_BMW_Bluetooth.html for the ULF part numbers

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