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No - a TCU module in a x5 could have the power on pin 1 and ground on pin 2
a tcu module on an x3 could have ground on pin 1 and power on pin 2 If you are saying the wiring for TCU modules are identical then i understand what i need to do, and as long as i look at ECE diagram in WDS and rewire to match that, i can get any ECE TCU module and plug it straight in. I'm now looking for one of these (sourced form here http://www.bimmerboard.com/members/p...artNumbers.pdf) European GSM based TCUs - won't work in US TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Jan-05 84116946991 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Nov-06 84109129850TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Mar-05 84106965055 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Sep-05 84106964113 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Jul-06 84106963758 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Nov-06 84109129850 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Mar-07 84109127894 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM 84116946011 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT RFMD GSM 84106978533 TELEMATICS CONTROL UNIT GSM Jul-06 84106963758 |
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X5 TCU = power term30 pin 17 & pin 18, power termR pin 35, ground pin 36 & 54 X3 TCU = power term30 pin 17 & pin 18, power termR pin 35, ground pin 36 & 54 You may care to note that the WDS contains all the info you need..... |
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Hi
I am hoping to add bluetooth to an E46 that has not got it, nor has the cabling for it, by making up some cabling for power, ibus and audio via a mute box. I have an aftermarket Alpine media station head unit fitted. I am in possesion of a 2005 TCU +SES module. It has a 54 pin connector. Does anyone know the BMW part number of the barebones connector so I can buy one and make up a loom? Else is a cheap loom with the 54pin connector available? I saw mention of a 25pin to 54pin adaptor, is there a BMW part number for it? Also is the audio signal on pins 37/38 the caller's voice, and is it an amplified signal or line-level? |
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Please feel free to call me an idiot but i still cant figure out WDS. Hopefully you will see i have tried . . . I've selected E53, then selected Communication>Telecommunication>Basic Interface Telephone (Bit II) (SES Language-input system with BIT Basis Interface Telephone from 2003_03) That shows a diagram with component U407 So i look up U407 and get Component and signal information>Components>U)Radio/interferance supression equipment>U407 Basic Interface, telephone>U407 Basic Interface Telephone (Fixed Mounting, siemens (cordless handset) from 2002_03) But i cant find the pin out list for this. When i search for the TCU (I01157) it comes up with Components>I_Components of outside manufacturer>I01157 Telematcis Control Unit (TCU_Everest) (without USA_LHD) and then i can see a table of all the Pin assignments at plug connector X18500 Where can i go from here? The only pin out i can find for BIT2 is X4038 but that doesn't show "Basic Interface Telephone (Fixed Mounting, siemens (cordless handset) from 2002_03)" only "up to 2002_3 So shich plugs should i be comparing? X18500 and X4038 seem so different ![]() X4038 - Siemens Internal (Eject Box) at pins 1,2, 5, 19, 20, 37, 38, 48 X18500 - Telephone, Internal (Eject Box) at pins 3, 5, 6, 32 I can work these back using the wiring diagram for A117 Eject Box, but that only shows the pins for BIT, and not diagram for TCU. BIT has 8, TCU has 4, happy to leave 4 disconnected but without colours for the TCU wires i dont know which wire from the TCU goes to which pins on the eject box X4038 - Comunication Link TXD RXD and Sheild at 9, 10, 11 X18500 - NO SUCH CONNECTIONS See attached picture, it doesn't go anywhere? Can i leave it off? X4038 - Data Cable (Navigation Unit) at pin 28 and 46 X18500 - NO SUCH CONNECTIONS See attached picture, it doesn't go anywhere? Can i leave it off? X18500 - Night Light Signal pin 52 X4038 - no such connection I can get this from the eject box, pin 3 (X4545) Last edited by neiloakley; 02-11-2010 at 09:54 AM. |
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Just click the connector number for a full table. Quote:
You see the wiring and signals of the existing BIT2 You see the wiring and signals of the wanted new TCU Simply transfer the relevant wires from the old to the new Of course, some will be no longer required, and you may need to reassign some wires running from phone to the eject box. But it is pretty straight forward. Work in this order: Ground Ibus Power Microphone Audio Out Eject Box SOS switch (if fitted) That's all you need. |
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Hi Jochen - thanks for taking the time to reply. I've done all the wires i thought i needed, and now it comes up 'Activate Phone' on the nav screen correctly, but i'm unable to get the TCU to go into pairing mode.
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Ibus - done Power - done Microphone - done Audio Out - done Eject Box - NOT DONE/CANT DO Why do i need to connect the eject box anyway? I want to use bluetooth, i have no interest in pluggin in my phone? |
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The only functions the eject box provide are: 1. phone charging 2. passive antenna coupling 3. physical holding of the phone Pairing mode of the TCU is initiated automatically when you turn the ignition from off to acc/on, but only for first 15s or so Jochen |
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OK i'll leave the eject box off
![]() But it still doesn't pair ![]() Going to start from scratch and see if i made any mistakes. |
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