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Old 07-11-2006, 05:43 AM
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HELP! White screen, MK4 for radio-navi (?), MK4 recode.

Hello to all forum,
I'm asking here some information about my problem.

I've buyed on ebay a 46 navi system (from different sellers) and when I connect it all seems to works except the navi monitor, that when I power on the ignition it becomes all white.

The system has:
- monitor 4:3
- MK4 (04/2003)
- radio BM54 (04/2005)
- cable (not original but good working)

When I power on the key the monitor become all white. I can press the power button (the left one) on the monitor and I can hear radio, manual scan frequences, switch FM/AM, change stations 1-6. However the monitor still remain white.

The cable's vendor says me that the problem is the MK4. It's coded to work wit navi-radio, the ones with little monocromatic display with signs and arrow.

Can be the reason of my problem? Is possible to re-code the MK4 using BMW dealer strumentation? Does MK4 have the video-hardware inside? On the back has the blue and the dark-rose connectors. I also have a TV module (without antenna cable), can I connect only the blue connector to TV module and try to see if on the monitor the image changes?

I report here the codes I can find on the MK4 labels:

6590 6 920 182-03
108788 10
FRANCE

04-03 CE

22SY588/23
9022 015 88239
FD00 0015564

HW:1.01/SW1.2

9022 015 88239 00
004 0315 0015564

INDUS VDO: 0123456789
PROD No: FD0003150015564

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Old 07-11-2006, 06:29 AM
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If it is the wrong Mk4 (ie it is the navi-radio unit) then as you rightly suspect, there is no hardware inside the Mk4 to drive the Bordmonitor and from what I have discovered, the resident firmware that runs this unit is different (as you don't get maps as such, just direction arrows etc).

How was the unit advertised on ebay? Did it specify it was for the Radio Nav or did it say it worked with the widescreen colour monitor? Do you have the ebay item number?

Probably the best you can do is to sell it on and buy one specifically for the Widescreen....
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Old 07-11-2006, 06:45 AM
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nothing about it.. the ebay item number is 4647493177

Someone says that is possible to record it with GT-1, but only if there is the necessary hardware in it.. who has the reason??

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Old 07-29-2006, 11:53 PM
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Does the nav have 2 labels, one smaller than the P/N label?? If so, the second label should have the VIN of the previous car. The Dealer can check this VIN for the options which came in that car. If it had radio nav it will say it had option SA606 Business Nav
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I had the same problem with one of my mk4's. It was coded to radio nav. Siemens/VDO at germany solved the problem. BMW Dealers could'nt help.
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Old 07-31-2006, 11:49 AM
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I remember seeing that Siemans/VDO address on the yahoo nav forum some time ago. Does anyone have it now? I have the same problem with a radio nav.
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I've found a document on TIS and also in my italian BMW forum that report this german forum, where is described the procedure you have to follow to recode mk4 from radionavi to color monitor. You can get that thread here:

http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ght=mk4+recode

What do you think about?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:13 PM
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You have nothing to lose. Try the recode. Maybe early models of MKIVs can't be recoded because of missing parts and maybe late models can. No one seems to really know. What is the TIS number?
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Quote:
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You have nothing to lose. Try the recode. Maybe early models of MKIVs can't be recoded because of missing parts and maybe late models can. No one seems to really know. What is the TIS number?
My mk4 is a 04/2003. TIS number is displayed as "RA 65 90 .." and you can find it under Documents/Repair instruction/65 Audio, navigation, information systems/90 Navigation systems

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