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Old 02-15-2008, 01:47 PM
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Guys - I have a bit of a problem.

I went out today with the OS disc to carry out the language order changes as I mentioned above, and it was very straightforward, the system loaded the appropriate languges from the disc and booted back up, I've selected GB, USA, DE.

Later on I tried the "Query VIN" function again, and switched the radio off as suggested by Jochen to cut down on I-bus traffic. Whilst it was doing this the car's screen changed to a very lo-res white one with the immobiliser code input request displayed. I entered all zeros and hit "deactivate" and the alarm went off!! Having silenced the alarm with the key, the screen only returned to its normal state when I switched the radio back on.

Now, every time I turn the key in the ignition it goes to the code input screen, and regardless of what code I enter, (0000 or 0001) when I hit the "Deactivate" button the alarm goes off and I can't start it.

Help !!!

UPDATE :

Problem solved!

It would seem that for some reason my Navcoder is generating random events, which included generating a random immobilser code. I looked back through my logfile (thank God for this facility!) and noted the following, ignore the times as my laptop isn't updated yet :

15/02/2008 03:03:57: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:03:57: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:03:57: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 34 37 32 44
15/02/2008 03:03:57: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2472", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:03:58: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:03:58: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:03:58: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 34 34 36 43
15/02/2008 03:03:58: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2446", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:03:58: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:03:58: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:03:58: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 31 36 41
15/02/2008 03:03:58: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2316", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:03:59: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:03:59: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:03:59: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 36 38 48
15/02/2008 03:03:59: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2368", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:03:59: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:03:59: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:03:59: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 35 39 4A
15/02/2008 03:03:59: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2359", Background_update

So I looked further down the logfile and noted :

15/02/2008 03:04:58: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:04:58: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:04:58: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 34 34 46
15/02/2008 03:04:58: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2344", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:04:59: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:04:59: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:04:59: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 34 30 33 42
15/02/2008 03:04:59: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2403", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:04:59: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:04:59: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:04:59: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 31 36 41
15/02/2008 03:04:59: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2316", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:05:00: 68 1B 7F A8 30 88 41 F4 8F 21 30 08 01 F4 8F 21 30 88 49 F4 8F 2F 30 08 01 F4 C1 5E 93
15/02/2008 03:05:00: RAD --> NAVE: TMC data: "30 88 41 F4 8F 21 30 08 01 F4 8F 21 30 88 49 F4 8F 2F 30 08 01 F4 C1 5E"
15/02/2008 03:05:00: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:05:00: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:05:00: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 34 30 42
15/02/2008 03:05:00: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2340", Background_update
15/02/2008 03:05:01: 80 0A BF 17 3F C7 01 80 1E 32 CC BB
15/02/2008 03:05:01: ASP --> GLO : Odometer: 116,543 kms
15/02/2008 03:05:01: 3F 04 7F 40 0D 09
15/02/2008 03:05:01: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="0D"
15/02/2008 03:05:01: 80 09 E7 24 0D 00 32 33 35 32 41
15/02/2008 03:05:01: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Code "2352", Background_update

So I thought logically as all computers do, and inputted the last Code value in the file (2352) and the immobilser/alarm deactivated. Much relief all round!

There are also other items that mysteriously change while NavCoder is running :

15/02/2008 03:03:26: 3F 04 7F 40 01 05
15/02/2008 03:03:26: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="01"
15/02/2008 03:03:26: 80 0C E7 24 01 00 20 35 3A 35 33 20 20 67
15/02/2008 03:03:26: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Time " 5:53 ", Background_update

....and the car's time display is changed to 5:53

15/02/2008 03:03:29: 3F 04 7F 40 02 06
15/02/2008 03:03:30: DIA --> NAVE: Read adjustment value, Data="02"
15/02/2008 03:03:30: 80 0F E7 24 02 00 30 36 2E 35 34 2E 32 30 35 32 4C
15/02/2008 03:03:30: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Date "06.54.2052", Background_update

....and the date is changed.

15/02/2008 03:05:35: 80 0D E7 24 09 00 31 30 36 20 4D 50 48 20 25
15/02/2008 03:05:35: ASP --> ANZV: Text display update: Limit "106 MPH ", Background_update

....and the speed limit warning is switched on at 106 mph.

There are many others in the file as well, the above parameters (immobiliser code, time, date, limit, and also range, timer1, timer2, etc) were all changed several times. I did notice that there seemed to be a common element every time things changed, and that is the 2 lines of code which precede such changes, with "Read adjustment value" in the second line.

Jochen - any ideas why this is happening?

Last edited by Jaycee; 02-15-2008 at 11:00 PM.

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Old 02-15-2008, 03:47 PM
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Disconnect battery for 10 min then follow the instructions

Your problem is caused by a strange ibus message clash - it has happened to other people, and only once to me!

Perform the emergency bypass for the system when the code is not known:
Disconnect battery
Wait 10 min
Reconnect battery
Follow onscreen instructions

I wish I knew what causes this :-(

Jochen
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Old 02-16-2008, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfj1
Sounds correct, D will need to be soldered to the lead made by B/C.


---------------|-------New "Y" flylead---------|------OEM Lead
CD Changer-F-][-M-==================-F-][-M-CD (i-bus) lead===> car
----------------------------||
----------------------------||
----------------------------||
----------------------------||
----------------------------//
---------------------------//
------------=I-Bus-M-][==::

Something like this


I should get them sat morning, I'll post up an update and some pics, I'll also confirm if I need all the pins etc.
As promised, here are a few pics

Invoice, I ordered more than I need as I'm making up a BT loom, but the prices are shown as per unit.


Unfortunatly the pins are only at one end (unlike the audi parts, that have the at both ends)

Male pins


Felmale pins


Female plugs


Male plugs


Mock up of a made up lead.


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Old 02-16-2008, 07:31 AM
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Thanks H, very useful.

Looking at the mock up of the finished item, the wires look a little short for my use as a flylead, have you shortened them to a length that suits your final requirements or is that the maximum length of the wires? In the bags they look much longer. This will give me an idea whether or not to buy an extra 3 x 663 (female pins & wires) and extend one of the leads a little further, i.e. solder the bared end of each wire into the female pin of the previous wire.

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Old 02-16-2008, 10:59 AM
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Thanks H, very useful.

Looking at the mock up of the finished item, the wires look a little short for my use as a flylead, have you shortened them to a length that suits your final requirements
No, its just a mock up, it was just to give an idea of what it would look like.

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or is that the maximum length of the wires?
The total wire length is around 12" so it's fairly long.

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In the bags they look much longer.
They are, see above.

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This will give me an idea whether or not to buy an extra 3 x 663 (female pins & wires) and extend one of the leads a little further, i.e. solder the bared end of each wire into the female pin of the previous wire.
Looking at all the bits I got, you should have no trouble doing what you need with what comes, the wires are well long enough.

This should be all you need

2 x male plugs
1 x female plug
6x female pins (one on each wire)
3x male pins (one on each wire)

It should be a bit cheaper than mine too.

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@KiwiJochen : why can't i connect with Navcoder to the LCM? I tried on 3 different cars, and it always says No response from device (timeout)? Is there any specific way to connect to it?
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Hi damci, in NavCoders readme file Jochen advises to increase the timeout value (in the Tools menu under Options) to 500ms or higher. Additionally he also advised me to switch off the radio to cut down on I-bus 'traffic'. I've never had a problem reading or coding the LCM.

ccfj1 - Thanks for clarifying that.
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@Jaycee: thy, i will try tomorrow with longer timeout value
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I tried with 700, 1000, 1500 and 2000 ms, and i still can't connect to LCM
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I tried with 700, 1000, 1500 and 2000 ms, and i still can't connect to LCM
Did you turn the lights on?
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