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Old 07-03-2008, 07:36 PM
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I kill my mk3

Hi,

first of all sorry about my english

I will try say you all details about my upgrading process in mk3.

1st error: try upgrade with mode 1 cd
2nd error: disconnect cables

The first time that I tried upgrade mk3 with mode 1 cd, it appears with white screen I tried and tried upgrade it.

When I saw here that it is necessary a mode 2 cd, I tried upgrade it, but it didn't upgrade, nothing in screen an eject cd few seconds later, was not detected with navcoder.

I tried some versions to upgrade it (v17,v22, v22.1, v24, v27, ...) nothing!!!

I will say you what is happening:

1 - if I insert for example a cd labeled with v17, it goes in, spin some seconds, make noises, blink led and eject (nothing happens in screen)

2- if I insert v24, it goes in, led goes off, seconds later spin, make noises, led blink, stop spinning, seconds later spin led goes off, and not eject! I have to remove it manually.

I killed my MK3, there is not way to recovered?!?! I know that I was a donkey when I made this errors

Can you help me?! If you want I will make a movie.

Thanks in advance and regards from Portugal.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:15 AM
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First of all - try to reset your navi - close all doors, opet trunklid (to have access to navi), wait till navi lid goes off, disconnect all cables from navi, wait 15-20 min, then connect all cables. Then take CORRECT navi SW (in correct Mode, write it on the lowest speed, make error check and surface check) and after resetting your navi try to update with this soft..... Hope and pray! ....

Hope it helps
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:16 PM
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Hi,

i have the same problems with my MK3. Is there anybody out there, who can help us please

Thanks

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Old 07-08-2008, 08:32 PM
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Hi,

i have the same problems with my MK3. Is there anybody out there, who can help us please

Thanks

getBK
Try this one. Burn mode2/form1 with ImagBurn at 1x. Be patient till 15 minutes in black screen.
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Old 07-12-2008, 03:29 PM
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Whistle MKIII Recovery from bad firmware upgrade

OK I did my best to brick my MKIII and unforunatelly it worked

I tried not to panic (highly recomended state of mind) so here is what I did to recover from essentially a bad firmware image upload (or bad disc if you will)

First of all I had to do something about the stuck disc. I tried all resets and procedures -- even ones from the official BMW upgrade SI. When all of that failed I took that as a declaration of all out war. Now I had to get down and dirty wit the NAV.

I removed NAV deck from the equipment bay after disconecting the battery.

Set the unit on the work bench and prepared all of the tools needed to open a NAV deck.

Removed the unit cover, removed disc mechanisam (by removing 4 torx screews and carefully detached ribbon cable connecting it to the main board)

Then I located electric load/unload motor wires and its connector then disconected it from the board.

Got the 1.5V battery with short wires attached to it and connected directlly to the motor terminals. The motor started to spin and disc started comming out so naturally I was very happy with that. Note: if disc isnt coming out you have most likelly reversed the the polarity so just try reversing battery wires...

However disc came out only part way. I figured that this will happen as there are other processes that must happen to fully release the disc which I could not simplly replicate.

To overcome this problem I have carrefully pulled disc out by hand and it came out without fuss.

Now this is imortant... at this point you have to insert disc with a known good firmware back in to the unit by pushing it in the possition the stuck one was. You have to do this because deck will think that it still has a disc loaded and will endlessly try to read it. When you do that (do not force disc in just gentle push and if neccessary gently lift the disc clamp enough to pass disc in to possition) then revese battery wires on the loading motor and lover the disc in to the unit.

Reconnect the loading motor to the board put the mechanisam back and reatach ribbon cables.

Now go back to the vehicle reconect the NAV deck and reconnect the battery. Turn the key in the position 2 or start the engine (especially if your battery may die on you) cross your fingers and watch NAV screen come alive with message "loading software" (it may take up to 4 minutes for this to happen) The first clue that this will most likelly work is if the power light on the deck stays on after powering up and of course the messages on the screen. After NAV finishes flash update it will eject the disc and ask you to remove it then press the button to confirm (OK).

After the NAV has rebooted insert your map CD and start the NAV to confirm everything is OK.

Hope this helps as it did resurect my MKIII which got stuck loading bad V31 image (there is a lot of them out there). When things went bad it was ocasionally flashing blank screen and NAV deck would not eject the disc.

NOTE: Anythig you do is at your own risk and there are absolutelly no guaranties it will work. This procedure assumes that your deck is acctually working unit gone bad during software update. This will not help you if the unit is actually defective! If you feel unconfortable with any part of this procedure dont do it!

It is highly recomended to place unit on antistatic mat while on your work surface as well as wearing a anitistatic wrist strap (available at Radio Shack or you local electronics store) or at least take a neccessary precautions to discharge static from your body by touching something grounded such as metal computer case...

I have spent some 20+ years of my life repairing electronics bulk of them CD, DVD & LD drives and static discharge damage happens easy.
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Old 07-12-2008, 11:56 PM
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I'm glad you got it but you really did it the hard way. Many of us have posted here and on bimmerboard how to do it. You take off the cover take the holddown screw of the eject motor out and swing the eject motor over and turn the little plastic gear with your little finger tip or a pencil eraser until the the disk is out. There have even been pictures posted of this. Glad you are working now!.
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Old 07-13-2008, 02:02 AM
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Or you just hit eject continuousy in the few seconds after reconnecting the nav to the power source. Then the disc comes out too.
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Well I am sure everyone has prefferences and in my case I chose not to take chance and brake or missaling gears in loading mech. As complicated as this may sound it is actually quite simple and easy not to mention faster than manually moving the gears.

And yes I have tried pressing eject rapidly during and just after the power up and did not come out. As laser assy was unable to establish proper focus lock cpu would not enable eject drive circuit at all. In case like this you can push eject button until you are blue in the face and it will not work because cpu is going to ignore it. I had bad disc inside unit that expects a boot loader from it--not a happy combination... This could all be avoided if the Philips designers incuded focus-read aqusition time-out without power-down and maybe even auto-eject on read error...
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:04 PM
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Anyone can tell me wich is the caracteristics for a good cd? I have tried all ways, imgburn in 1x, but my cd recorder record in 8X , i don't what can I do

Thank you very much and many regards from Portugal.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:17 AM
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Anyone can tell me wich is the caracteristics for a good cd? I have tried all ways, imgburn in 1x, but my cd recorder record in 8X , i don't what can I do
Do not burn at 1x.
Burn at the lowest speed supported by your media that you use.
If you try to burn at a speed not supported by your media, you will get a bad burn.

After the burn do a surface scan and error check using eg Nero DiscSpeed

A perfect CD has:
1. Good surface scan
2. Zero C1 and C2 errors.

In reality a few (around 100 or so) C2 errors occur
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