MK4 with Harddisc or SSD?

pete_c · #1 08-02-2009, 08:53 AM

I don't believe there is that much intelligence in the NAV DVD/CD rom unit in relative terms. IE: 10 years ago yes but today no. The IBUS communications is well documented as its been around for quite a long time. It would actually be less work and less invasive to emulate a NAV unit than one part of it. As mentioned it would involve reverse engineering. IE: The NAV unit turns on and says I am here. It states what it is and is polled for information and responds to information. The communications is similar but not NMEA sentences. In the US typically a company will apply for a patent for technology and many times this patent well documents what the technology is / methodology used for said technology. As VDO was "multitasking" the same / similar use of the base standard that they created was utilized as a one for all. So somewhere there is a list that BMW provided its vendors for the base for IBUS communications devices. Its probably as easy as a predefined base of communications standards that any device can use. I remember once testing a MKI TV module on my E46 and noticed that the "intelligence" was in that device rather than the NAV CD device and it "took over" the intelligence on the display. I installed a "new" device on my E83 called a CIS-IBUS interface. This device actually has its own display on the 16:9 NAV display. Just like another device on the bus. (IE: hitting the mod button will bring up the CIS-IBUS interface).

KiwiJochen · #2 08-08-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pete_c

I don't believe there is that much intelligence in the NAV DVD/CD rom unit in relative terms. IE: 10 years ago yes but today no. The IBUS communications is well documented as its been around for quite a long time. It would actually be less work and less invasive to emulate a NAV unit than one part of it. As mentioned it would involve reverse engineering. IE: The NAV unit turns on and says I am here. It states what it is and is polled for information and responds to information. The communications is similar but not NMEA sentences. In the US typically a company will apply for a patent for technology and many times this patent well documents what the technology is / methodology used for said technology. As VDO was "multitasking" the same / similar use of the base standard that they created was utilized as a one for all. So somewhere there is a list that BMW provided its vendors for the base for IBUS communications devices. Its probably as easy as a predefined base of communications standards that any device can use. I remember once testing a MKI TV module on my E46 and noticed that the "intelligence" was in that device rather than the NAV CD device and it "took over" the intelligence on the display. I installed a "new" device on my E83 called a CIS-IBUS interface. This device actually has its own display on the 16:9 NAV display. Just like another device on the bus. (IE: hitting the mod button will bring up the CIS-IBUS interface).

You missunderstand the original posters question: can the CD/DVD drive be replaced with a hard disc?

The DVD drive low-level interface is internal to the nav computer.

Replacing the DVD drive with a hard drive is non-trivial.