You mean leaks like the ones quoted above?

Or do you mean leaks from people who worked for angencies like NORAD or the FAA? I can post a quotes and interviews from such people as well.

There have been tons of leaks. They simply are not reported by the mainstream media. Just as this guy Willie Rodriguez has been ignored, so have the dozens of others who tell stories that conflict the "official" conspiracy theory.


I would find it strange if that was indeed the case. But that is simply not true. In the days following 9/11/01, there were articles in local newspapers all over the country in which experts from this field wrote that neither the fires nor the plane impacts could not have caused the collapse of the 3 WTC towers. I remember they quoted the CEO of one of the large steel companies saying "if we could melt steel with jet fuel, we could save billions of dollars per year".

Then about a week later most of them recanted their statements and said something different. But several have stuck to their initial opinions.

And today, the engineers themselves cannot even come to an agreement on what caused the buildings to colapse. Some say it was the fires, others say that is impossible because jet fuel does not burn hot enough and instead it was the impact of the planes. The 9/11 Commission avoids the subject entirely simply saying that they collapsed. The 9/11 Commission also fails to mention anything about WTC building #7 which also collapsed that day.

Here is physics professor Steven Jones talking about it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WVzRllLq-...related&search

He managed to get a sample of the molten metal found in the wreckage of the WTC, and his studies show the presence of thermyte, the explosive used by demolition crews. For the molten metal to be present at all, the fires would have had to reach over 3000 degrees. This is a problem when jet fuel burns at only 800 degrees.

Then you have Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, saying in a television interview that evening that they demolished WTC #7. I guess when he said it, he did not realize that such a demolition would take days to prepare and would have had to be set up prior to 9/11 for it to be possible. I guess someone advised him of that after the interview, and the next day he said he "mispoke". Here is a video of that interview:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u0scE7bQWdk


There is lots of information from both witnesses and "insiders" out there, but the mainstream media simply ignores them. You have to go to some of these events or read some of the websites to hear about them. Otherwise you will be of the opinion that they simply do not exist.

Cops tend to discount "eyewitnesses", because most of them don't actually know what they saw. They interpret, interpolate, and imagine.

this thread is bullsh*t. the sounds of explosions? those were the fcking floors collapsing one on top of the other! its disrepectful to all the friends (i lost many that day), family members, nypd and nyfd rescue workers to suggest it was a conspiracy. i am also outraged that anyone would logically think our own government would do this. its absoulutely ludicrous and anyone trying to make the argument simply looks ridiculous. just because a bunch of layman are offering their opinions (useless) about what they heard, etc, and some "experts" want their 5 minutes it does not change the facts.

just as you have the right to free speech, so do i, and friends of mine in the nypd join me in saying: if you dont like this country, get the fck out.

I just love provoking Eric into wasting time trying to defend an undefendable position. :nanana:

As far as your so-called leaks go, your quotes certainly aren't leaks. They're a rag tag compilation of comments from people who misinterpreted what they saw or heard and have had their comments presented in a misleading fashion. People like Willie Rodriguez get ignored because investigators and investigative committees don't want to waste their time and be criticized for wasting taxpayers money by paying attention to crackpots.

"V for Vendeta" Good movie. Pretty simple, but it gives you an idea about goverment (wealthy people). I like the quote: "People should not be afraid of the government, government should be afraid of the people." Call me crazy, but I think that our eyes should be open.

Tone it down buddy. Everyone else is debating the issue. You are not.

I agree, calm down

Furthermore, while I feel that the US had plenty to do with 9-11 (I remember reading about troop deployments on 9-12-2001, how would you get it that organized in 1 day? NO way

I do however agree with Wagner, this board is very set in it's ways and people feel strongly either way, this thread has been used many times and I feel it's beat dead honestly, I feel we should retire this and just let people have their different opinions, this thread will change Nobodys view :thumbup:

You're joking right? Military troops are deployed at a moments notice.... it's their job and why billions of dollars are spent on a defense budget. If they couldn't be deployed that fast, I don't think I'd feel safe.

As for calming down... I'd be pissed too if I lost friends/family that day and had to continually read bs like this post. It's been beaten to death, people are deadset in their ways as you and Wagner said... some are more passionate about it than others...

Well noone put a gun to his head and made him read now did they? This is the lounge and people can post as they please, I mean while I understand where he is coming from, I would say, tuff it up, noone made you read this debate....

True, no one put a gun to his head... but passionate people do silly things instead of ignoring posts :)