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4.6is Ryder 02-24-2007 01:04 AM

This can't be true
 
What's up gang...I wanted to share this info and find out if you'll have heard or even understand this. Check this out...I had the stealer do a search for a 650ci manual...now to the you gotta be kiddin' me file. The search yielded 420 cars and only 10 were 6 speed manual. Have we as americans lost the thrill of driving or have we become too consumed by the phone and starbucks to shift gears? :wtf: This is a standard feature, but it seems like everyone selects auto or SMG.....help me understand.........Phil

CGSTL 02-24-2007 01:25 AM

You nailed it. Starbucks and cell phones.
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Originally Posted by 4.6is Ryder
What's up gang...I wanted to share this info and find out if you'll have heard or even understand this. Check this out...I had the stealer do a search for a 650ci manual...now to the you gotta be kiddin' me file. The search yielded 420 cars and only 10 were 6 speed manual. Have we as americans lost the thrill of driving or have we become too consumed by the phone and starbucks to shift gears? :wtf: This is a standard feature, but it seems like everyone selects auto or SMG.....help me understand.........Phil


JV 02-24-2007 02:10 AM

Was watching the MTV Real World show the other day and the kids are all between 20-24 years old. They have two vehicles for use between the 7 of them and one is a manual. It sits in front of their house because only one roommate can drive stick! Doesn't anyone learn to drive initially with a manual transmission anymore?

vinuneuro 02-24-2007 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JV
Was watching the MTV Real World show the other day and the kids are all between 20-24 years old. They have two vehicles for use between the 7 of them and one is a manual. It sits in front of their house because only one roommate can drive stick! Doesn't anyone learn to drive initially with a manual transmission anymore?

Out of all my friends, only one can drive manual. Not good.

On the bright side, I never get requests to borrow my car lol.

B-Line 02-24-2007 02:18 AM

Yeah, I can't argue, starbucks and cell phones.. But there is also another even bigger culprit. BMW.

If you haven't noticed, BMW lags on sending the manual transmissions to the USA. Usually they come in over a year or more, after the SMG, Steptronic editions are released.

So what does this mean? That any hardcore BMW fan that might want a manual but might not want to wait for it, because a new car has come out, like the M5, M6, M3, 5 series, 3 series, etc. is somewhat forced to take the SMG, Step equivalent if they want the "new car", "first on the block" which a lot of BMW owners want to be. After all, who's cooler, the guy who gets the first M5 off the boat, or the guy that gets his 18 months later?
We live in the "have to have it now" society. No one wants to wait.

So the hardcore guys buy the SMG, with the plan of maybe buying the manual version when it arrives 18 months later. But then after 16 months, that buyer decides he is tired of the M5 and wants a Cayenne or something. Or he is upside down on the cost of the car and it doesn't pay to trade it or sell it.
So now the hardcore enthusiast, never really gets to own the car he wanted, the NEW model with the manual H box transmission, in a timely fashion.
-- Now the H box cars start to trickle into the states but the sales are lack luster. The car is certainley not as hot as it was in 2005 when it was on the cover of every magazine and dealers were asking for a $10k to $20k premium.
So here and there, BMW sells a couple manuals, but not truckloads of them.
BMW Marketing says, "see, no one really wanted a manual, they all wanted the SMGII, which we make more money on as it's a $5K option." and fewer and fewer manuals are made.

I would almost certainley guarantee that if BMW were to send manual transmissions to the states during the first batch of cars, there would be many, many more buyers. And those cars would trickle down to the secondary market.

But as long as BMW withholds the manuals until the cars are yesterday's news, there will not be a long list of people buying them. Those true enthusiasts have already moved on to buying a manual 911 or something of that nature.

B

p.s. - Even though I know it will NEVER happen. I am still hoping that when BMW comes out with the new "special edition X5 (4.6is, 4.8is) that they might offer a six speed manual. I would buy one in a NY minute. But I also hoped they were going to make it an ///M class X5 and there not doing that either :(

4.6is Ryder 02-24-2007 02:25 AM

The part that gets me is the manual is standard equipment, but the auto and SMG are N/C options. What the hell are they thinking....I might get back on my Cayman kick.....Phil

X5SA 02-24-2007 02:43 AM

Does anyone have an idea of what percentage of cars sold in USA are autos. In SA it is only 10-15% and if you get your drivers licence in an automatic you can't drive a manual unless you redo the test in a manual.

4.6is Ryder 02-24-2007 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by X5SA
Does anyone have an idea of what percentage of cars sold in USA are autos. In SA it is only 10-15% and if you get your drivers licence in an automatic you can't drive a manual unless you redo the test in a manual.

:wow: say what......Phil

vinuneuro 02-24-2007 02:49 AM

You really have to respect manfctr that produces a production model with only manual as the available option in the entire range. I'm not talking about exotics. ..Sad thing is even many of the exotics offer auto as an option.

The only current vehicle that satisfies this, that I can think of, is the S2000.

Quicksilver 02-24-2007 06:12 AM

This may not be the reason but a lot of people can't parallel park. It's not even required to get a drivers license anymore. It's part of the dumbing down effect and overall bad driving skills of the general public.

Now Just imagine the half of these folks who don't even know how to fire up their turn signal trying to negotiate the hills in San Francisco with a manual tranny. pa-leeeeze. :rofl: :rofl:


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Originally Posted by 4.6is Ryder
What's up gang...have we become too consumed by the phone and starbucks to shift gears? :wtf: This is a standard feature, but it seems like everyone selects auto or SMG.....help me understand.........Phil



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