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Wagner 03-21-2007 08:12 AM

Bush administration.
 
Have you ever seen a US administration with more day to day problems?

E61Silver 03-21-2007 08:24 AM

He is probably the worse president in recent time.

Jimmy Carter is the second worse president but a much nicer & smarter person.

Thunder22 03-21-2007 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WagnerX5
Have you ever seen a US administration with more day to day problems?


yeah, clinton's but people didn'tcare as much because everyone was making money hand over fist...

AzX5 03-21-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gresch
yeah, clinton's but people didn'tcare as much because everyone was making money hand over fist...

:iagree:

E61Silver 03-21-2007 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gresch
yeah, clinton's but people didn'tcare as much because everyone was making money hand over fist...

What does that have to do with Bush and his dumb moves like the war?

Thunder22 03-21-2007 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue
What does that have to do with Bush and his dumb moves like the war?


Read the first post. it was in the form of a question.

Read my post, it was in the form of an answer.


English.... gotta love it. :thumbup:

E61Silver 03-21-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gresch
yeah, clinton's but people didn'tcare as much because everyone was making money hand over fist...

Clinton's problems were small compared to Bush. It seems like the only way to defend him is to avoid the question.

Thunder22 03-21-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue
Clinton's problems were small compared to Bush. It seems like the only way to defend him is to avoid the question.


Thanks for proving my point.

E61Silver 03-21-2007 10:55 AM

Glad that you agree that Bush is the worse president in recent times!

blondboinsd 03-21-2007 10:58 AM

I just love seeing how their getting grilled, Now if we could only impeach him!

Thunder22 03-21-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue
Glad that you agree that Bush is the worse president in recent times!

Thanks for proving my other point, that you're clueless....:nanana:

E61Silver 03-21-2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gresch
Thanks for proving my other point, that you're clueless....:nanana:


What is your point?:

That you act like a little kid calling people clueless and posting nanana?

I think that Bush is so bad that you rather not address the subject.
Address the Bush question or not but don't attack me personally!

blondboinsd 03-21-2007 01:20 PM

Ladies Ladies, calm down!

Wagner 03-21-2007 01:21 PM

Secondary question for the topic, had 9/11 not happened...what would the 8 years of Bush Whitehouse have brought to the United States?

blondboinsd 03-21-2007 01:22 PM

Um a useless war? Lots of dead troops? A contract with satan I mean haliburton? Shady backroom deals? Horrible financial debts? Great job republicans!

noncom23 03-21-2007 01:24 PM

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:





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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Ladies Ladies, calm down!


Quicksilver 03-21-2007 01:28 PM

Actually I don't believe i have. It appears that a lot of this stuff is because he's stubborn about a lot of things which causes other people to dig in their heals and fight him at every turn. I guess it really isn't about the war but about the character of a man. I for one believe it's a great lesson. :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by WagnerX5
Have you ever seen a US administration with more day to day problems?


Thunder22 03-21-2007 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x54.4blue
What is your point?:

That you act like a little kid calling people clueless and posting nanana?

I think that Bush is so bad that you rather not address the subject.
Address the Bush question or not but don't attack me personally!


I'll recap for you again:

Wagner asked, and I paraphrase, "has any other admin has this many daily problems"

And I responded, sincerely, and in my opinion, that YES, Clinton's admin faced this many, but the general public didn't care as much becuase they, the general public, were making so much money that they paid less attention. Which, to any normal human being with half a brain, was a valid, honest answer to an honest question from wagner. it didn't stir the pot, it didn't attack anyone and it didn't reference YOU in any way, shape or form. You then asked me what it had to do with anythign, to wit i said it was in answer to wagners question, which, it seems, went tangent to your abilities to comprehend. You then attributed some assinine statement to me. Never did i addres you, nor attempt to address you, nor in any way make reference to you until you addressed me.

So mr. blue, who or what is at fault here? your inability to comprehend English and the the simple question/answer process? or me for getting frustrated with your idiocy and having to explain common sense to you?

If you are incapable of undestanding this, or choose not to, I have no control over that.

Have a nice day.

rebound 03-21-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gresch
I'll recap for you again:

Wagner asked, and I paraphrase, "has any other admin has this many daily problems"

...

Have a nice day.

You know you're wasting your time, right?

:popcorn:

Thunder22 03-21-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Um a useless war? Lots of dead troops? A contract with satan I mean haliburton? Shady backroom deals? Horrible financial debts? Great job republicans!


Shall we recap Clinton?

numerous abuse of presidential powers including deploying troops without congressional approval. (see similarities?)
shady real estate deals (see similarities?)
lying to the american public (sound familiar?)
numerous marital affairs before and during his presidency
taking credit for an economy that he had absolutely nothing to do with, which really the credit should have gone to Reagan and Bush sr's economic policies prior to him (does anyone really think that the day after clinton was elected the economy just spontaneously took off?... nope)

Dude, all politicians are criminals and suck, your implication that republicans are any worse than the criminals that you support just shows that you're experience with the US political scene is limited. They're all crooks, they all have their hands in the cookie jar, and every 4 years we elect or re-elect 1 of them to run the country because someone has to have the job.

Let me ask you this... what have your hero Democrats that you voted in last year done for you so far? And I'm being serious, what has changed so dramatically that they're living up to your hopes and dreams and expectations that you had when you pulled the lever last November?

Thunder22 03-21-2007 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound
You know you're wasting your time, right?

:popcorn:


Yup, but every now and then, you have to remind puppies not to pee on the carpet.... pathetic isn't it?

blondboinsd 03-21-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gresch
Shall we recap Clinton?

numerous abuse of presidential powers including deploying troops without congressional approval. (see similarities?)
shady real estate deals (see similarities?)
lying to the american public (sound familiar?)
numerous marital affairs before and during his presidency
taking credit for an economy that he had absolutely nothing to do with, which really the credit should have gone to Reagan and Bush sr's economic policies prior to him (does anyone really think that the day after clinton was elected the economy just spontaneously took off?... nope)

Dude, all politicians are criminals and suck, your implication that republicans are any worse than the criminals that you support just shows that you're experience with the US political scene is limited. They're all crooks, they all have their hands in the cookie jar, and every 4 years we elect or re-elect 1 of them to run the country because someone has to have the job.

Let me ask you this... what have your hero Democrats that you voted in last year done for you so far? And I'm being serious, what has changed so dramatically that they're living up to your hopes and dreams and expectations that you had when you pulled the lever last November?

I can't answer that because we didn't pull a lever, it was electronic :nanana:

PersonaNonGrata 03-21-2007 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gresch
Shall we recap Clinton?

numerous abuse of presidential powers including deploying troops without congressional approval. (see similarities?)
shady real estate deals (see similarities?)
lying to the american public (sound familiar?)
numerous marital affairs before and during his presidency
taking credit for an economy that he had absolutely nothing to do with, which really the credit should have gone to Reagan and Bush sr's economic policies prior to him (does anyone really think that the day after clinton was elected the economy just spontaneously took off?... nope)

Dude, all politicians are criminals and suck, your implication that republicans are any worse than the criminals that you support just shows that you're experience with the US political scene is limited. They're all crooks, they all have their hands in the cookie jar, and every 4 years we elect or re-elect 1 of them to run the country because someone has to have the job.

Let me ask you this... what have your hero Democrats that you voted in last year done for you so far? And I'm being serious, what has changed so dramatically that they're living up to your hopes and dreams and expectations that you had when you pulled the lever last November?

:iagree: 100%. I think it's naive to think that it's any different. Democrats aren't anointed with some saintly ability to not want power, influence, and money. They want it just the same and are not above anything. It's sort of like that old saying "when you point a finger you have four pointing at yourself". I also agree that they won last November on a "vote for us because we're not them" platform back with no substance.

Wagner 03-21-2007 02:46 PM

Most non-sense in recent memory:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/...ngs/index.html

Didn't Bush run on "bringing dignity back to the Whitehouse?"

Thunder22 03-21-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
I can't answer that because we didn't pull a lever, it was electronic :nanana:

*SLAP :)

Eric5273 03-21-2007 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WagnerX5
Secondary question for the topic, had 9/11 not happened...what would the 8 years of Bush Whitehouse have brought to the United States?

Quote:

Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Um a useless war? Lots of dead troops? A contract with satan I mean haliburton? Shady backroom deals? Horrible financial debts? Great job republicans!


The war could not have happened without 9/11. My guess is if 9/11 had not happened, then there would have been some sort of other similar type attack. The attack was needed to justify the war.

Wagner....asking that question is like asking what Hitler's years as German Chancelor would have looked like if he had not invaded Poland in 1939, or what Saddam Hussein's years as Iraqi President would have looked like had he not invaded Kuwait, or what LBJ's years as President would have looked like had he not escalated the Vietman War. 9/11 is the essence of Bush's time in power. It defines his presidency. Had that attack not happened, there would have surely been another one to replace it, as I doubt the end goals would have changed, and an attack was a necessary event to carry out the policy.

rebound 03-21-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gresch
Yup, but every now and then, you have to remind puppies not to pee on the carpet.... pathetic isn't it?

The image I have in my head of you "rubbing his nose in it" is pretty damn funny! :rofl:


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