How's this for a problem.
 

I'm locked out of my safe. The Sargent & Greenleaf combination lock dial just spins and spins and I can hear a screw that fell off rattling around. The dial is not engaging any of the tumblers. There is no way in except to get a safe technician out to take the lock apart and possibly drill it out. :angryfire If that doesn't work then I think I'll need a big can opener powered by oxy-acetaline. It's not a El Cheapo safe/lock either so it is secure... too secure.

At least if I can't get in, no one else can.

Here's me: ;owned;

Sounds fun... How the hell are you going to get that open?

good luck!

Total VICTIM. :rofl: :rofl:

Good luck Kev.

have you tried opening it with a bent credit card? i hear that's a sure fire way to get locks open :) :)

Hey Kev,

A piece of advice. About two years ago I was in the market for a gun safe. Something that could fit a 12 gauge classic and a couple rifles. I did some extended research and discovered that spin combinations (which is what I was looking for) is the "safe of the past."
- If you were to go to a safe retailer, not a gun shop or sporting good store, but a true "safe warehouse" you will find, they don't sell "spin combinations" anymore. Reason 1) they are not as secure as a electronic NUMERIC combination lock. Reason 2) they are not as convienent as a NUMERIC electronic lock.

- I was very surprised to find out that SPIN was an inferior product. But after doing a bit of research, learned this to be true. In addition, if someone tries to enter a combo that is wrong, after a few tries, the safe will auto lock for a number of hours, preventing any tampering.

- of course there is no safe that is unbreakable, it is a deterrent. A good lock buster can get through anything.

- So, my suggestion, have a Safe Doctor come out and bust open that spin. While you are at it, have him replace the SPIN with an electronic key pad. It is harder to break into and much much easier to use, you can also set your pin.
It is an expensive upgrade to retrofit, (I think about $600-$800) but well worth the cost, especially if you are in and out of it a lot.

GL,
B

Damn. Sounds like a job for a pro.

Then again, I might know a couple of people who could help you out...if you can wait 15 or 20 years. :jk: :D

Good luck.

I agree and my next safe will have an electronic lock but I bought this one about 10 years ago when electronic locks were rare if ever seen. I will not upgrade this one because it's not worth it. I might as well buy a new safe, which ironically, I had been thinking about doing last week. :tsk:

Bummer! - What about the warrantee? - sounds like a defect - how long have you had it? - You will be surprised how quickly a locksmith can get into these things - Makes you wonder just how 'safe' is the safe.

he said he bought it 10 years ago... doubt if there's a warranty on that..

:bustingup

Good luck with getting it open, Kev!

Well I have arranged for a safe company to come out. They will first try to manipulate the dial and if they can't do that they will drill it out and repair or replace the lock. That'll be about $300, thank you very much. Rats! They assure me that they can get in and get it resecured.

I never understood the point of safe's if people who can fix them exist. Then there must people who can do the same thing (take it apart), but take whats inside when youre not there.

Absolutely! For every security measure there is at least one way around it. The point of the safe at home is to deter 99% of burglars. If there is that 1% that is willing to take the time to break the lock or cut into the container, then he will get in. Same thing goes for the security system on your car. Scare off the lazy thief but the determined one will get your stuff. Oh and if you're wondering whether they can carry the safe away, mine is pretty big and heavy so they'd better bring lots of help.

I 100% agree with Kevin..

A safe is to keep the crack heads out, insurance can worry about the rest.
And, even though they can be broken, it takes time. Not nearly as fast as knowing the combo.. So it is there to slow people down as well.

Lastly, for guys like Kevin and me, (gun owners) it would not be smart to have our loaded arsenal's laying around the house despite the fact, no kids in the house.

I don't even keep valueables in the safe, those go in the vault at the bank..
Also, most safe's have a certain level of "Fire Protection" so if their is a fire, and the house should burn down, hopefully important paperwork won't be destroyed.

B