The significance of having fake photos of JFK's autopsy is that someone put a big effort into creating them. In 1963, you didn't just load up photoshop on your Mac and go to work. Faking photographs was a huge ordeal, and the FBI obviously went through great lengths to do this. I suppose you think they also "misplaced" JFK's brain? Yes, that too is "missing" from the FBI's evidence.

And you are missing the obvious, which is that ALL pathologists agree that the large hole is the exit wound, not the entrance wound. If you agree that the back of his head blew off, then you are acknowledging that the shot came from the front. The Warren Commission report shows pictures with a large hole in the front and a tiny bullet hole in the back, thus painting the picture of a shot coming from the back where Oswald was.




First of all, I don't want to spend taxpayer money on this. I simply want the government to release all the information. We have something called the Freedom of Information Act, and if the JFK Assassination was simply a single act by a lone nut, then there is nothing in those files that could possibly be a threat to national security 44 years later.

But yet, the government -- specifically ONI (Naval Intel) refuses to release even a single document of the thousands they have on Lee Harvey Oswald and the JFK Assassination. One must wonder why the Office of Naval Intelligence even has thousands of pre-1963 documents on a seemingly unimportant 24 year old individual who according to ONI never even worked for them.

As for polls, I can't seem to find much online except this one Gallop poll which shows a lower number -- 75%, with 19% agreeing with the lone gunman theory. (http://www.pollingreport.com/news2.htm#Kennedy). But the same statement holds true: find me something else that 75% of Americans agree on.

You know, I'm not trying to sell you a bill of goods here. If you just read even the most brief amount of stuff on the subject, you will be convinced. If I had a 15 minute conversation with you, I'd have an easier time convincing you of this than convincing you the world is round. The evidence is so one-sided that those who don't believe it simply are those who are uneducated on the subject and simply tend to believe the government, so they figure the government must be right, rather than people who have actually looked into it.

Wasn't this topic about Benazir Bhutto?

PS: I don't believe the Warren Commision report, and you couldn't if you actually read it. My dad is a JFK buff and has a copy of it..if you play loosely with the laws of physics its possible for one person to do it. However if you look at autopsy photos of JFK's head minutes after the shooting, it is obvious to anyone who has ever fired a weapon that the rounds came from different directions. That alone makes a single shooter impossible. :thumbup: Unless of course you believe you can be shot in the back with a bullet coming through the front of your neck and then get shot in the head with an exit wound out the rear of the skull.

Pretty dramatic series of pics, of B. Bhutto's last minutes on the planet.

WS, but some graphic scenes and some blood...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package....html#section1


One may have to log in/sign up to view the pic series...

Something I will never understand about these terrorists:

Do they realize that the average American probably didn't know of or care about this person, sadly? Do they understand the real people they wounded in killing the person was their own people, the Pakistanis? You didn't see crying people and rioting on the streets in the USA, you saw it in Pakistan. This is the part I do not understand. You kill your own because you think it hurts some far away nation. I'd bet anything the guy that shot her couldn't name 5 people in the Bush administration aside from GDub himself. Not to mention you killed another Muslim, isn't there some religious law about that in their so-called holy book?


I don't see US citizens in these pictures...
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/me...ing.car.ap.jpg
http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/me...fin.afp.gi.jpg

diogenes........ welcome to eric's world.........

i am sooooooooooo glad i am not the only one alone here......

its must be the ecuadorian side......

ROFLMAO!

welcome!

the Koran is only holy and true to those who interpret it in their OWN image... just like some idiot Bible pushers do here. The more zealot one is, the higher the likelihood they are interpreting their own 'version' of what scripture says....


what i find funny is the following:

Global fears for Pakistan after Bhutto assassination

10 hours ago
PARIS (AFP) — The assassination of Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto sent shockwaves around the world on Friday with global leaders condemning the act as markets reacted with fear to the new blow to international stability.

US President George W. Bush led calls for Pakistan leader Pervez Musharraf to stay on the path of democracy despite the killing which the Pakistan government said was probably the work of Al-Qaeda.

World oil neared 97 dollars a barrel in international trading, its highest level in a month following the killing of Bhutto, dealers said.
Japanese stocks fell 1.65 percent on Friday and other major markets also followed Wall Street's fall immediately after the killing of Bhutto on Thursday.

Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Malaysia and Singapore warned their nationals against going to Pakistan. Japan told its citizens inside the country not to leave their hotels or lodgings.

Roseli Abdul, acting Malaysian high commissioner to Pakistan, said tensions were expected to remain high for two or three days, Bernama news agency reported.

Condemning the "cowardly" suicide attack, the US president urged Pakistanis "to honor Benazir Bhutto's memory by continuing with the democratic process for which she so bravely gave her life."

The two-time former prime minister was shot in the neck by her attacker before he blew himself up at a campaign rally in Rawalpindi for the January 8 elections, killing at least 20 people.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown reaffirmed international calls to "build democracy" in talks with Musharraf on Friday, Brown's office said.
Brown called Musharraf to pass on Britain's condolences over Bhutto's death and to pledge extra support to combat the Al-Qaeda network.
The British leader said he "encouraged President Musharraf to stick to the course he has outlined to build democracy and stability in Pakistan."

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon described Bhutto's assassination as a "heinous crime" that "represents an assault on stability in Pakistan and its democratic processes" ahead of the elections which Bhutto's party had been tipped to win.

The UN Security Council joined Ban in a non-binding statement that condemned "in the strongest terms the terrorist suicide attack by extremists" which killed Bhutto.

Pakistan's neighbours, fearing an extremist spill-over if nuclear-armed Pakistan were to spiral out of control, were quick to respond.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who met Bhutto only hours before her death, called the assassination an act of "immense brutality" against one of the Muslim world's leading women.

"I am deeply sorry, deeply pained that this brave sister... this great daughter of the Muslim world is no longer with us," he said.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said Bhutto's killing was a reminder of the "common dangers" faced by India and Pakistan.

"Mrs. Bhutto was no ordinary political leader but one who left a deep imprint on her time and age," he said.

From Europe, France voiced concerns over Pakistan's nuclear capability falling into the hands of the extremists and the killing threatening stability throughout South Asia.

"That is why we regard Pakistan and the odious assassination of Benazir Bhutto in part as an assassination of democracy... and we must not allow that," said French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner.

Strong reaction also came from the Muslim world.

Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono called Bhutto's murder "a severe blow to Pakistan's democratic process" and expressed his hope that "the law be upheld and democracy be respected in Pakistan."
Turkey, a close ally of Pakistan, said the killing "undoubtedly aims to draw Pakistan into chaos and instability."

Iran urged authorities to track down the "terrorists" responsible, while Iraq's President Jalal Talabani called on the world to unite against the "cancer of terrorism".

Africa's biggest Muslim nation, Nigeria, deplored the "mindless political violence" and urged Bhutto's family to find solace knowing that "she died in active pursuit of her vision of true democracy for her country" and that she has become "an eternal martyr" to the cause.

Other European leaders also saw the killing of Bhutto as an attack on democracy. German Chancellor Angela Merkel labelled it a "cowardly terrorist attack" designed to destabilise Pakistan.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said he hoped "the organisers of the crime will be found and that they get the punishment they deserve".
International media predicted Pakistan's chaos would worsen.

Italy's Corriere della Sera said "Pakistan is becoming an ever bigger atomic time bomb" and highlighted fears that the military could take back power.
Jordanian newspaper Al Dustour said "Bhutto's assassination is a terrible act that paves the way for a civil war in Pakistan."

translation:

GW: eyes on you now, bud. better get going in the right direction.

OPEC: lets capitalize on this and make more $$$$$$

GB: I'm a pussy PM and I'm scared. I'll say the right thing, but I'm scared of more terror attacks in London.

UN: bad bad Pakistan. Next? (when's lunch? boy, this is a nice set up the American's pay most of... I want the Thai Chicken)

Afghanistan: Great. Freaking great. You morons. You had to up the ante. Nice. Kill a Muslim woman in power. Now the west is getting pissed.

India: You all better get your shit under control 'cause we WILL protect ourselves.

France: shit. We helped them develop their nuclear program. (*note: interesting coincidence. France apparently helps all middle eastern countries build nuclear plants, weapons, and delivery systems.) Now, when the world finds out its us, we'll be in trouble.

Idonesia - keep us out of this

Turkey - ditto. great. civil war.

Iran -- let's use this as an excuse to keep the world's interests elsewhere right now.

Nigeria - see Iran.

Germany - stop fighting so we can sell more cars.

Russia -- see Iran.

Italy -- states it for what it is...

Please... if you are going to be an adept Conspiracy Theorist, you really must frame your arguments in a more logical fashion.

First of all, you've stated repeatedly that there is not a "shred" of evidence" linking Bin Laden to 9/11. From the oft-quoted Muckraker Report of 06/26/2006:

"On June 5, 2006, the Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Headquarters, (202) 324-3000, to learn why Bin Laden’s Most Wanted poster did not indicate that Usama was also wanted in connection with 9/11. The Muckraker Report spoke with Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI. When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page, Tomb said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.”

"No hard evidence" is not even remotely close to "not a shred of evidence." Every 911 truther website use the phrases "lack of conclusive" evidence or "no hard evidence", so why are you stretching this to "not a shred of evidence"?

But then you bring the Sibel Edmonds into your argument. Let's get the story straight - Anthony Romero, the director of the ACLU, which is representing Ms. Edmonds in her civil case, stated "Sibel Edmonds is the most gagged person in American history..." which was merely quoted by Newsweek. Citing this as an editorial comment attributable to Newsweek is incorrect and irresponsible.

But then wait... since you did bring Sibel Edmonds to the forefront of this discussion, in page 3, paragraph 2 of her letter to Sen. Thomas Kean of 04/01/2007 states:

"Over three years ago, more than four months prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks, in April 2001, a long-term FBI informant/asset who had been providing the bureau with information since 1990, provided two FBI agents and a translator with specific information regarding a terrorist attack being planned by Osama Bin Laden. This asset/informant was previously a high- level intelligence officer in Iran in charge of
intelligence from Afghanistan. Through his contacts in Afghanistan he received information that: 1) Osama Bin Laden was planning a major terrorist attack in the United States targeting 4-5 major cities, 2) the attack was going to involve airplanes, 3) some of the individuals in charge of carrying out this attack were already in place in the United States, 4) the attack was going to be carried out soon, in a few months. The agents who received this information reported it to their superior, Special Agent in Charge of Counterterrorism, Thomas Frields, at the FBI Washington Field Office, by filing “302” forms, and the translator translated and documented this information. No action was taken by the Special Agent in Charge, and after 9/11 the agents and the translators were told to ‘keep quiet’ regarding this issue."

Your two statements directly refute each other. Nice try, though...

:iagree: :thud:

DrDrex,
RE: your "translation" of the headline official reaction story...

RACK IT! :thumbup:

Outfookinstanding, imo.
BR,mD