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broknlgs24 09-01-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by iceman72
Damn , gas in MD hit $3.79 yesterday. What are you guys doing about it for your X5's? I usually put 93 only in my X5. BUt at these prices, wow thats going to hit me in the pockets something terrible. From what the news is saying , it is only the beginning.


:wow: Damn, what part of MD are you in?

Roc3b 09-01-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pepatrick
Im sorry...its supply and demand at work. If the prices go up people will conserve. If the prices stay low while supply is low, everybody and their mother will try to fuel up everything that moves. This by itself will create more of shortage and a serious problem. Do I like paying 5 or 6 a gallon...hell no..but if that is what it takes to make sure we have plenty of gas...so be it. It is not the gas stations fault. It is the lack of supply of gas...and the oil companies are charging because demand is high...and supply is low. This is where the government needs to stay out of the way and let CAPITALISM take its course.

That ladies and gentleman is economics 101...can you imagine? 26 gallons x $5.5 = $143 fill up four times a month = $572 bucks...say good bye to average people's disposable income. The average married couple in this country earns a combined $35k...COMBINED!....you may want to look at making your stock portfolios defensive in the near term. If this does come to light before winter. The economy is going to grind to a halt. Xmas for retailers will be a disaster and job losses and desperation will mount. THIS is not good. Keep an eye on the Fed the market had a price increase factored in for Sept. That might be off the table and rate cuts might actually have to come back. This is a short term shock but it is happening in hours...not days and weeks.

dan_fitz 09-01-2005 10:33 AM

That is a bit alarmist I think. First of all, who is talking about $5.50 gas? Plus, those families making $35K combined are likely not filling their tanks 4x per month at $2 a gallon. The economy will not gring to a halt based on gas prices alone. While some folks are getting wiped out due to the hurricane, this is going to be a boon for other industries. The economy will work itself out. There is a LOT of petroleum in the governments reserves. What will likely end up happening before we ever see $5.00 gas prices sustained is drilling in Alaska and the mountain areas. Many will object, but the reality of higher prices taking a long-term hold on this country will sway the vote the other way. Of course, time will tell if i am right or not, but these are my opinions.

Roc3b 09-01-2005 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dan_fitz
That is a bit alarmist I think. First of all, who is talking about $5.50 gas? Plus, those families making $35K combined are likely not filling their tanks 4x per month at $2 a gallon. The economy will not gring to a halt based on gas prices alone. While some folks are getting wiped out due to the hurricane, this is going to be a boon for other industries. The economy will work itself out. There is a LOT of petroleum in the governments reserves. What will likely end up happening before we ever see $5.00 gas prices sustained is drilling in Alaska and the mountain areas. Many will object, but the reality of higher prices taking a long-term hold on this country will sway the vote the other way. Of course, time will tell if i am right or not, but these are my opinions.

If you looked at the picture at the top...a gas station in Atl has those prices posted. No one knows why they are goudging but they are. The terms that I proposed are worst case scenarios but the combinations of high home heating and gas prices will put a hit on the econmy that is 75% driven by consumers. If you make 2200 month and are used to spending $200 on gas are now are spending $350..that is $150 not going to other parts of economy.

Quicksilver 09-01-2005 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman72
Damn , gas in MD hit $3.79 yesterday. What are you guys doing about it for your X5's? I usually put 93 only in my X5. BUt at these prices, wow thats going to hit me in the pockets something terrible. From what the news is saying , it is only the beginning.

Going to check out a vespa in a few days. I was going to anyway but nows a good excuse. Even my wife the woman who said "you cant have a motorcycle"
didn't say a word except" where you gonna buy it?

dan_fitz 09-01-2005 02:27 PM

they were all over the place in San Fran when I lived there about 5 years ago.

MatriX5 09-01-2005 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pepatrick
Im sorry...its supply and demand at work.

Bingo. Any business owner that doesn't raise prices when the good or service they produce is consumed faster than they can produce it will not be in business very long. I think it will be interesting to see how HI manages through this with their price caps. If gas can only be sold there for X.XX, and X.XX ++, I would imagine that very little gas will be supplied there.

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Originally Posted by pepatrick
Do I like paying 5 or 6 a gallon...hell no..

For us, it means keeping our arses on the couch and eating a sandwich and chips (baked of course...trying to shed a few) instead of going out to dinner.

The only other thing to point out is that I don't think we really are having a crude shortage. Our refining capacity is reduced. If all the crude was released from the stockpile, pump prices would likely see little relief until the refineries can come back online.

Lawaia 09-02-2005 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by broknlgs24
I thought Hawaii just passed a bill that caps their prices? :dunno:
Something like, the wholesale cost of gas can be no more than $2.15ish.

Hawaii...the first bonehead state to pass a gas cap law that was intended to protect consumers. Since it went into effect today, our gas prices has INCREASED an average of .06 per gallon. WTF??
We have such great lawmakers here. :tsk:

jwalsh22 09-02-2005 06:27 AM

I don't know about doubling the national average as far as $3.50 goes, I just paid $3.59 to fill up my car, overall the thing cost me $81.00! That's just a lot of money!

Chris F. 09-02-2005 08:54 AM

The prices are pretty bad, but I think this is what we need to (hopefully) cool the housing market and gas prices long term...


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