Whether anyone accepts the invitation is another thing all together. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Remember folks, many so called African American organizations developed because of exclusion from mainstream organizations not from their own desires. The negro baseball league was formed simply because blacks were not allowed to participate in MLB not because they wanted to be separate.

I remember seeing "colored only" water fountains in Richmond, VA as a kid- the nerve of those coloreds costing the city all that money demanding their own fountains that only they could drink out of- always wanting special treatment :jk:.

How about the Miss Black America pagent, not because of a desire to form their own pagent, they were not allowed in the regular (white pagent). Times have changed thank God. The NAACP has had white members going back to it's founding. Wouldn't it be nice if the NAACP was never needed in the first place, we all know the history though. Sammy Davis Jr. recalls that back in the early '60s the Sands Hotel in Las Vegas drained the pool after Lena Horne's daughter swam in it- not all that long ago.

Times have changed, yet look how many of these organizations and funding programs remain. Personally I don't care because it doesn't affect me, all I'm saying is if a white guy made something obviously named to compete w/ BET, like WET, there would be rioting in the streets. I treat everyone the same, it's most people who still categorize themselves w/o the need for me to do it for them.

I beg to disagree. What you describe has been going on all along
and nobody is rioting in the streets. In fact when these folks are
done making their pitch it dies a natural death because everyone
knows where their coming from and nobody takes them seriously.......

Really? So if a white guy made a clothing line literally called FWFO (for white folks only) like FUBU, it would be ok? I highly doubt it. In fact, I guarantee you it would never see the light of day.

So if a white guy made a clothing line literally
called FWFOI (for white folks only) I would be
just fine with it. If he can sell his line of clothes
then more power to him. Go for it......:thumbup:

On the other hand FUBU is an acronym for "For Us, By Us
It says nothing about for Black folks only. So your
example doesn't hold water

FWIW I have seen more white folks wearing FUBU
so I guess if anyone wants to be included as an "US"
then right on.......;)

Now carry on

I didn't know you were part of the NFL in 2002 and had this inside info :)

Fact is, affirmative action is bigotry but it is cloaked in "civil rights" while it was accurate and sadly necessary to some extent in the USA because of treatment of minorities, it is IMO, no longer necessary and simply making the divide greater. If I established an organization for the advancement of White People because of affirmative action, I'd immediately be shut down by the ACLU and others, then labeled racist by CNN and so on and so forth.

Points made earlier about the Negro League and the like coming around because of racism are 100% accurate. It was the banning of people that created these groups, not the inability to compete on a level playing field (which is what we would have without affirmative action now). Going back to the OP the comments were correct, it is bigotry. But to try to pretend that somehow the uppity whites should just stop claiming there is a complete national bias towards minorities, is ridiculous. Ask yourself this, how many times in the news during elections and the like do you hear things like "The first woman..." or "the first black man..." our society propagates this divisional thinking then lays the blame squarely on one undeserving group.

That said, I was born in 1978. I didn't own slaves, my family didn't own slaves, I grew up with white/black/whatever friends. I played baseball, basketball, football all with all groups of people. I never made a friend or business decision based on color so TO ME affirmative action is completely, 100% racist. It isn't my generations fault that the baby-boomers can't get past their own biases and somehow feel as though they need to make up for what their parents did. While this paragraph is probably unpopular with some, sorry, it is the truth in my eyes. :)

I'll take you at your word, but to be honest I think you're playing dumb.

From wikipedia:

FUBU is a clothing company. It includes casual wear, sports wear, a suit collection, eyewear, belts, and shoes. The name is a backronym for "For Us By Us", indicating that the product line was produced by black Americans for a primarily black American market.

So by their own definition, the "US" in FUBU means black Americans.

:confused: Uhhh no.

I recall that when it was started, one of the key points of FUBU was that the clothes line was designed to be used by black folks because there is a need in the market. These clothes are cut and fitted to conform to the average black body. That is why it is for us - by us.

Mainstream clothes makers make ther clothes for european bodies (read: flat asses). Trying to fit into these clothes is a PITA.