I-Phone and I-pod Questons
 

Tom,

Like to say thanks for all the responses you have done over the years. You helped me install many Dices and I had not had a signal problem. The only problem that seems to be requiring is Apple evolving I-pods, I-phone and etc. Again, I have the Dice and it works great with my 4th Gen I-Pod & 1st Gen I-phone. I recently had a buddy connect his newer I-pod/I-phone (3rd Gen) to the car and it didn't work out so great.
The problem was you can only shuffle through playlist/Artist through the console rather than using the clockwheel/I-phone.Is the clockwheel feature only for old 4th Gen I-pods. I cant shuffle through songs on my phone. Is that because of the firmware upgrades? I am a big fan of the Clockwheel and I-pod feature on the I-phones.
I read several Blogs and found the latest and greatest is the ice/Silverline. I have yet to find out what I need to buy. It looks like I have to buy the whole Dice/Silverline kit. Do I need to install all the new cables (I undersand it on takes 20 or so min)? Pictures look like is the same kit from the outside( imagine it is different hardware/software). Can I get away of just replacing the module? If i can get away just replacing the module, can I buy just the Module? Well, thanks for help and Happy New Years. Peace

The touch, new Classic and 3rd Generation nano lock the iPod's Clickwheel when attached to 3rd party devices, this is an iPod-specific issue - not the DICE.

Earlier iPods on a non-SILVERLINE kit do not experience this issue. All DICE-specific features are still available. If Clickwheel operation is desired, you can set the DICE module's DIP switches to Simple iPod mode to gain access of the Clickwheel, but will lose text display on the radio when doing so.

I am looking for the easiest and least time consuming install possible. I would like to add the DICE module to both my X5 w/ DSP and my e46 M3 non-DSP. Both are currently equipped with CD changers. Can I just unplug the CD changer and plug in the DICE, then plug the ipod to the DICE right there in the trunk? I don't need my ipod in front with me since I normally just leave it on shuffle and can control it with the steering wheel controls when necessary.

I looked through the install instructions and this seems like it would be an easy install if you don't want the hassle of running another cable (for the DICE) from the rear of the vehicle to the front. Is there a shorter DICE cable for this purpose?

Sure, the iPod can live right in the trunk if you'd like. Here's the kits you would need:

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1631

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 3 Series/M3 99-06 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1621

Be sure to opt for Digital DSP on the X5 kit.

Hello.... Call me a pessimist, but i gave up on both the Dice & IceLink, they both were giving me a lot of problems and the vendors did not help, i have a 2003 4.4i X5, with Bluetooth and navigation, but no DSP.... Example of the problems i had:-
-Music / ipod gets stuck
-Ipod continues playing when using the bluetooth phone connection

-ID tags disappear after using the bluetooth connection with my mobile
-Playlists do not play in order and sometimes music played in alphabetical order instead of playlist order
-Occasional distortion, requiring restart of the ipod and the car's system (i.e. remove ipod, start up the car & stereo, stop the car, reinstall the ipod, bla bla bla...)
-ID tags do not appear or very slow to show
-You have to restart the ipod a million times (i tried all ipod versions/generations, the most suitable are the old ones)
My advise is to stick to the original CD changer installed (if available) or just get the OEM Aux-in retrofit kit (Much cheaper and more reliable)... By the way, some X5's have them already installed....

PS, i tried all software up-dates available for both.... And none worked properly.....

Yanal

Tom--thanks for confirming and thanks for the links!

Yanal--Thanks for the insights....Did you ever diagnose each of these problems? It sounds like many of your problems may have been related to combination of bluetooth with the DICE programming. I'd be interested in whether you ever found the root cause of each of these issues.
BTW--my X5 is an '02 so no factory aux input for me :(

Situation:
When iPod/Dice silverline starts to play and the song name/artist/album is shown on the navi screen (mode 02, i.e. DISC 6, track 02), I press Menu, Navigation to return to my navigation route.
After a while I want to change the playlist. When I enter to CD menu (by pressing DISC 2) - the info is not shown anymore. I cannot see what playlist is current and what is the next one by rotating the jog dial.
I have to select DISC 06, TRACK 02 again to show the current info, then DISC 2 to change the playlist.
My question is: IS THIS NORMAL? :banghead:
I have registered my product and asked diceelectronics.com/support - noting... :dunno:

Can I get the production date of your X5? Also - do you have Bluetooth installed?

I have 728 E38 '99
Yes, I have Bluetooth installed , 13th gen.
Is this somehow related with my problem?

Responded to other thread: http://www.xoutpost.com/vendor-forum/...d=1#post577076

Hi Tom,

Based on all your excellent commentary here on X5World I purchased a DICE adapter for my '01 740il (w/ NAV and DSP). It arrived today - Monday - and I installed it this afternoon. Thanks for the quick shipping.

Sadly I've only had partial success, and I hope you can offer some advice. I can browse the iPod successfully, but no audio plays. I'm using a 5th Gen iPod (v 1.3 according to iTunes). I've also tried an iPhone with equally limited success.

I'm not sure if it matters, but the negative battery terminal was disconnected during the installation. Since then I've unplugged the DICE module from the vehicle cable and let it sit for 50 seconds (key out of ignition), which corrected a few initial problems with text but didn't resolve the audio thing.

Any ideas?

Did you get the DSP adapter along with your kit?

You're referring to the second DICE box with the composite audio and coax cables, correct?

I have that installed.

That's correct. Since you're not far from us in Long Beach - did you want to stop by so I can take a quick look?

That would be awesome. When should I come by?

Give me a call tomorrow morning so I can schedule you in - it shouldn't take long.

Hello again (Budget M3),
I tried to disconnect the Bluetooth, and the problem was still there with both interfaces (Dice/Icelink-Plus), my car's production date is 9-2003, I even tried an earlier model 4.6is production date 2-2003, and a 4.4i production date 6-2001 (without a bluetooth) and same problems after a while (i.e. 2-3 days)...
I used an early generation ipod nano (2gb), an ipod video (30gb) and most recently an ipod touch (80gb), the latter does not work properly at all...
BUT, on the lighter side both worked much better with X5's without navigation/TV screens production date 5-2001.... AND on an E46 330ci production date 3-2005 without navigation... So.... I guess there could be something in that.... but i don't have the energy anymore to troubleshoot, way too much of a hassle...
By the way, the RETROFIT KIT, AUXILIARY CONNECTION can be bought separately for cars 2002 and above and are relatively cheap (50-80$) and easy to install;
P/N 65120153502 for X5's with CD PLAYER AND RADIO BMW BUSINESS (C43)
or
P/N 65120153503for X5's with NAVIGATION SYSTEM, PROFESSIONAL, OR, TV FUNCTION, OR, ON-BOARD MONITOR WITH TV.
They even work with the Sony Walkman and even with my Mobile Phone Sony Ericsson W880...

Regards

Yanal

I spoke with adam at dice tech support today and he told me they are aware of text issues not resuming, and will swap out dice units with new software once the update is ready. I recall reading in this forum that they spoke to them in october or november last year and they told them the same thing.

My text problems happen after one or two cycles of using the car. Text stops scrolling and then disappears altogether. I unplug unit and reset software to option 3 and lose it again in a couple uses of the car.

Thanks for the updated info, Yanal. Very helpful! IIRC, the aux kits were only for 2003 and up on the 3-series. Is it different for the X5/E53? More specifically, my 4.6is is a 2002 model year, but 12/2001 production date. If this kit will work with my DSP, non-Nav radio then I am going to look into it first. Where does the kit plug in? at the head unit or in the trunk by the CD changer?

EDIT: Just checked those part numbers on realoem. They list that part for the euro E53's (including euro 4.6is) and several US model 5 and 6 series, but not the US E53 X5's. Now I am really confused...:dunno:

AUX is not compatible with a 2002 model, you need the DICE kit.

I noticed something else with my e38 - when I start the car it flashes "CORE NOT FOUND" very quickly before loading the iPod details.

Hello,
Didn't know there was such differences between the ECE & the USA models, I was under the impression that the USA specs are higher as i see a lot of bimmers in Jordan imported from the US (yes there is a very big market for such cars as they are cheaper) that usually are pre-fitted with such things as telephony, CD changers, etc.... Contrary to the ECE models that are not...
Thanks for the information..
Yanal

I tried leaving a message yesterday, no voicemail picked up. Give me a call so we can set up an appointment.

I am swimming in a sea of success.

That was a bit melodramatic, but it's fixed and I'm happy about that.

I woke myself up in the middle of the night with the idea it might be a poor power connection to the DSP unit. When I looked at the wiring I realized the self-piercing t-taps I'd used to power the DSP unit hadn't pierced the sheath on the power cables. Hence, no power.

Two quick incisions, some wire wrangling, and audio is flawless.

I'm not thrilled with how it handles text on the nav screen (more often than not it says something fun like TR ( track TRA for about ten seconds after making a selection, but I suspect I'd prefer to have the text under the gauges anyway.

Tom - thank you for your help, and the offer of additional help. You've won a long term customer.

Now if only you carried Volvo stuff too.

Which setup?
 

Hey Tom, been scouring this thread for the exact answer, but at this point, I'd rather just ask. Appologies for a duplicate question...

I just picked up a Certified 2005 X5 4.4. and want to install the DICE setup. I have Navigation and the trunk mounted 6CD changer. The Stereo has DSP (which I guess makes a difference). I'll be connecting an iPod Nano and iPhone (1st gen) to this.

I really like the ashtray replacement interface that you see here:
http://www.bavariansoundwerks.com/im...main-image.gif

What kit do I need to set this up? and how much will is run me? I started configuring a setup, but I want to make sure I'm not adding cables and such that I don't need.

Feel free to shoot me a PM, if you'd like.

Thanks!!!
Stephen

Awesome - glad it was something simple and everything worked out.

Nothing on the Volvo, but we got you covered in BMW. :cool:

We've never recommended the ashtray mounts - these add no useable functions since:

- The iPod's Clickwheel is locked out when connected to the DICE.
- All control is performed by the radio and/or steering wheel

The dock might be ok for a desk or surface - but we are talking about a moving vehicle. This places a lot of unnecessary wear on the dock connector of the iPod and can damage it within time. Vehicles with stiff suspension make the problem worse. Navigation of the iPod would be virtually impossible in this position.

A more serious point to bring up is if the vehicle was involved in an head-on collision and the iPod was projected in front of a deploying airbag, since the iPod isn't secured properly.

I think the concept is very neat, just not practical without something securing the iPod safely. To be perfectly fair, I have not heard a case of this happening yet.

I certainly wouldn't want to be the first.

@Tom

Thanks for your insight. You definitely bring up some good points. I guess that makes sense about the Dock not really holding the phone in place. I'm not so much concerned about being able to access the features of the phone, more than being able to see who's calling, etc... so I don't want to bury the phone somewhere like the glovebox. However, the X5 is considerably lacking in "compartments", unlike some of my other vehicles where there are spots for tons of things.

What would be a nice alternative is to fit a tray place of the angled ashtray, that could allow the iPhone/iPod to lay down on it's back... fairly secure... and connect into the cable. This way it won't flop around. Could even put that "grippy" thin rubber sheet on there that is typically used to keep your cell phone from sliding off your dash board. Has anyone implemented something like that? If not, I might just need to mold an insert of my own!

So, assuming I end up just going the cable route (which at least saves me a few bucks)... what do I need to complete the setup with the best integration possible?? I read that you can tap in to the AUX plugs near the cd changer, though I have some concerns about interference running the connector the length of the car.

Thanks!

The DICE already includes everything needed:

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1631

Just get the kit, add an iPod and you're set.

I was wondering if it would be worth grabbing the HD radio kit for a few $$ more, which also has the iPod interface as well (minus the cable). Do you get all the features of the iPod DICE kit, or is just audio only?

Thanks!

This depends on if your favorite radio stations are broadcasting in HD. Check www.hdradio.com to see what's offered in your area.

Good call... perhaps I'll stick with my original plan.

I chose to keep my ipod in the trunk. Seems to work fine. The problem I have is that every few days the DICE/IPOD says DETACHED. Unfortunately I have to go to the trunk and cycle the power on teh IPOD. Sometimes after I cycle the power on the IPOD I get ATTACHED, however, I cannot get the DICE/IPOD to work. Any ideas? X5 3.0 w/nav, no DSP.

Losing text on nav screen and OBC
 

I have the same dreaded problem here. It was an easy install and Im using a 1st gen NANO with updated software. Even so, When I hit mode to get to the IPOD I have to hit 6 then 2 for playlist. the text rarely is correct. Seems like a defective product.

My X5 is a 2006 4.8is with bluetooth. Production is 10/2005

Are you leaving the iPod connected to the DICE in the vehicle overnight?

I did a few times but even when I didnt, and/or I would plug it back in.....the text would vanish or not update as I change songs .... :dunno:

Perform the following steps:

1. Disconnect iPod from cable
2. Remove battery cables, negative first
3. Touch battery cable terminals together (away from battery) for +5 seconds, a small spark is normal as this is stored power draining from the system.
4. Allow cables to remain disconnected for about 5-7 minutes
5. Reconnect battery cables onto battery, negative last.
6. Reboot iPod by pressing on MENU and CENTER buttons for +5 seconds and then reconnecting to the DICE cable after the reboot process is completed.

Let me know if these steps correct the problem.

Ok,,,I will try it this weekend and will update on the forum.

Update....
 

Ok...I disconnected the two plugs to the DICE module and the vehicle battery for about an hour (had errands to do) as well as reset my Ipod Nano. Then I connected everything and still have the same issues. When I plug in my Ipod Nano, I leave it alone for about a 60 seconds then I push 2 (for playlist) I select the playlist I want then I puch 1 (to cycle through the songs on the playlist). The first song tag shows on my OBC. After that, nothing...I cycle through and the tag stays the same. It doesnt change with each song.:(

Sounds like a possible configuration issue. Are all the DIP switches on the module set to the UP UP UP UP positions?

All the dip switches are on the default settings... I didn't change any of them but I'll double check.

Tom,

How do i find out if i have analog dsp or digital dsp. I have a 2000 X5 4.4 Nav with 6-disc. There is no DSP button but if i go to the menu screen i do have section in there titled DSP with a full equalizer to adjust, if that helps.

MY00 is definitely Digital DSP.

Of course it does, lol. I knew I couldn't get away with only spending $160 lol. Thanks for the quick response.

'01 740iL

I have all of these problems/symptoms.
I have tried all your suggestions (battery cables, etc.)
I have tried all the display options 6->2/3/5/6/7. None of them works consistently.
The iPod doesn't have to be left overnight. I can't get it to Attach/Start after running into the office for a meeting.
Often the text is stuck at "TR( TR" or something to that effect. The music plays just fine and the track up and down still work. The lockup of text will occur whether the text is displayed on the dash or the Navi display.
Is there a software update on the horizon or is this unit just bad?

Are you 4:3 or 16:9 on your navigation display? Nav should be a CD6/TRACK6, the MID is CD6/TRACK4.

Also verify your DIP switches are in the UP UP UP UP positions on the module.

Exactly what happens to me on my '06 X5 with Nav and I have my screen split. This is definitely faulty.

16:9 Navi
All switches up.

I'll try 6->6 and 6->4 again tomorrow.

As with NY-4.8IS, I have my Navi in split screen mode. My MkIII is at the latest software version for the MkIII.

Hi Tom
I recently bought an X5 e53 and DICE unit. I installed it myself and everything worked fine for the last week. However today every second time I started the car it failed to recognise the IPOD/DICE units and said NO DISC.

So I decided to disconnect everything and re-initialize everything. I did this but now I get text on the MID/Dash saying CORE NOT DETECTED

Once again I have unplugged everything and will wait until overnight to re-attach everything but am I missing a step?

All switches are up and I am using a 30gb IPOD Video with 1.3 Firmware

Any help appreciated!

iPOD Compatibility
 

Hi Tom,
Is my DICE Silverline compatible with the iPOD Classic 120GB (6th Generation)? Which of the CURRENT iPOD lineup (Classic, Touch, Nano) are compatible (I have the non-DSP trunk mount in my 2005 X5). Thanks!

Hi Tom, need help here. I can´t get the dice inteface to work.

I just bought the interface for my 06 BMW X3. Installation was done following exact instructions from the videos and manuals for this model, and was a breeze. Problem comes when initializing. I put the ignition on and wait, even for minutes before pressing the mode button. Once I press it I can hear a strange buzz coming from behind the stereo (regular business cd, no nav, no sat radio pre-wired or installed), and then it goes back to the tuner function.

All dips are UP UP UP UP, I also tried it with the first dip down, per the manual, but then I don´t even here the buzzing behind the radio.

My ipod is a 30GB ipod video with the most current software (updated last week in i-tunes)

please help!

The problem may be with the incorrect audio input connected at the back of the radio, see the illustration below:

http://www.europeanautosource.com/im...ndissueor7.jpg

Swap the connector and your audio should return.

Hi Tom

Not sure if you missed my previous post but I work like some assistance if you can.

I recently bought an X5 e53 and DICE unit. I installed it myself and everything worked fine for the last week. However today every second time I started the car it failed to recognise the IPOD/DICE units and said NO DISC.

So I decided to disconnect everything and re-initialize everything. I did this but now I get text on the MID/Dash saying CORE NOT DETECTED

Once again I have unplugged everything and will waited until overnight to re-attach everything but still got the same message. Is there another step I am missing?

All switches are up and I am using a 30gb IPOD Video with 1.3 Firmware

Any help appreciated!

Thanks Tom, let me try that out and will get back to you. Hope it works!

Was the iPod still connected when you pulled your battery cables? If so, disconnected, reboot the iPod (pressing the MENU+CENTER buttons for +5 seconds) and reconnect after the reboot process has completed.

Hi Tom
Everything was disconnected and IPOD reset. I am going to try on the weekend to pull everything apart, disconnect the battery and leave it a an hour or so before reconnecting.

I'll let you know how I go. Thanks for your reply.

Do you know what the CORE NOT DETECTED message means?

Cheers
Ben

Ben,

This means the DICE is not properly detecting the iPod.

Hmm... AUX doesn't seem to work either. Do you think a different IPOD will work or the problem is with the Unit?

The fact that you have a CD Changer selection and the "CORE NOT DETECTED" message means the DICE is properly working.

can you confirm the DIP switch settings on the module are all in the UP UP UP UP positions?

All switches are UP.

Those are the correct positions - is this a radio or trunk interface kit?

Trunk kit,

if my x3 is not prewired for a cd changer is there any other solution connection from behind my pro radio???
i have retrofited navigation in the car only no dsp no sirius

thanks

Yes, the radio interface kit can be used. Here's what you need:

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X3 04-08 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1629

Hi.

I've been reading through the thread but failed to find the needed info.

Does this kit charge all of the verious ipod types.?

Or does this only work for specific types.?

Thanks.

Also, I have a 2001 x5 3.0 with nav and no sirius, are there a connection point under my consoll, or is it only the one in the trunk.?

The DICE kits will charge all iPods with a dock connector, including 3G iPhone and touch.

Okey. Thanks for the answer.

I thought all of the ipods had the dock connector.?



What about the location of the connection point.?

You will need a trunk interface kit, your CD Changer connections are in the cargo area on the left hand side.

Hi..

Yeah. I have already ordered the kit. Its waiting for me at home.. Just saw someone mentioning a conection point under the consoll.

It might have been for the x3.

Just wanted to check..

Thanks.

X3 would be underneath the center console, X5 is in the cargo area.

I have a trunk interface dice that I bought a couple of years ago and it says it wont charge my Ipod touch 2g. Do I need to update the firmware?

Just need a new docking cable:

DICE iPod Dock Connector Cable w/ USB Charging
eas - 714.369.8524 | DICE iPod Dock Connector Cable w/ USB Charging

This will restore the charging on the new touch and support current model iPods as well.

Unfortunately, only a hardware change will get your 2nd Gen iPod touch charging on your original DICE kit.
You can either pony up the $40-$50 for a new "DICE" cable, or go snag a Scosche adapter that sits between your iPod and the DICE plug.

The Scosche adapter is about 2" by 2", so it may compromise your current setup if you don't have any extra clearance for your iPod to dock, otherwise it's a good solution because you can take it with you to interface with other devices that don't support charging on the new Apple products.

I may have an adapter to sell soon if the new iPhone 3.0 firmware delivers on new bluetooth profiles (to enable audio streaming via bluetooth to the car stereo)

Sure, a bluetooth adapter ill be required for folks who don't have Bluetooth capable vehicles, but you can't ignore the convenience of cable-free audio through the car stereo.

Video of iPhone 3G v3.0 streaming Bluetooth audio:

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2009/04/v...bluetooth.html

Will Dice support the 2g touch? Do you know when this will happen? Otherwise I'm selling my touch and getting a used 1g. I want full control of my ipod again. Do I need that special cable for the 1g touch to work and charge?

The DICE will support both touch generations.

Will I need that cord and a firmware update? When will they fully support touch 2g? thanks tom!

No firmware updates are necessary - just the revised docking cable.

so with that cable I'll have my steering wheel controls for my Ipod touch 2g, artist and song info, and charging too?

I have the old DICE, not the new silverline. So with this cable Ill have my steering wheel controls back, and charging, as well as song and artist info in the display for my ipod touch 2g?

The revised cable will only give you USB-compliant charging support for the non-SILVERLINE models. This supports 3G touch/3Giphone and current iPods models.

In order to get SILVERLINE features, you need to upgrade to a SILVERLINE kit.

So the silverline wiill give me full control of the 2G?

The newer silverline for the X5 connects through from the front right? So I wont hear engine whine through the cable?

Both DICE kits give you full control, the newer SILVERLINE kits simply give more options.

It's up to you:

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Radio interface)
eas - 714.369.8524 | DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Radio Interface)

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)
eas - 714.369.8524 | DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)

The radio interface kit will connect up front at the radio itself.

I was having some trouble changing songs with my ipod touch 2g, but I figured it was the Dice. Thanks so much Tom, you've been great for these boards throughout the years!

Wow, this is such a long thread.

I am in the market to replace my ICELINK that I have in my '01 X5, but it seems that this DICE has lots of bugs.

Should I just wait a bit longer for a new system (as the ICELINK was replaced by the DICE, so the DICE will be replaced by something else)? I dont want to buy something that only half works.

DICE was just refreshed in December - it's running strong as we speak. :thumbup:

"the original dice compared to the Dice Silverline"

Is the only difference the connector to charge the latest iphones etc

Which can be purchased seperately anyway

Or are there other differences ?

I know that to have the nav show the name of the song, i have to navigate to track 02 on cd 06.

But do i have to do this each time the stereo has been turned off.?

The SILVERLINE added Artist directory listings, Playlist directories and 3G iPhone/2G Touch/Current model iPod charging support.

Do you already have a kit?

Can you read me the numbers on the bottom of your module, just beneath the barcode?

no tom just ordered one after finding out that the model was the latest silverline version

thanks for the update

Is it the DL-0308 number you are refferring too.?

Or the I-BMW-T/5V..?

Also, quite often when the car has been switched off for a while, i get the deattached message..

Then i need to deattach, and reattach the ipod for it to start working..


Im waiting for a replacement, so hopefully this will fix it..

Do you have photo of waht the text should look like on a 4:3 monitor..?

Are you leaving the iPod attached to the DICE while the vehicle is stored overnight? If so - this is a result of the iPod going to sleep and cutting off communication to the DICE.

I do..

I thought that would be okey.

What about the mp3 tag text.?

Am i supposed to choose cd 06 track 02 each time i start the system up.?

question attached to the above by ekvals

what is the best option for a x3 as regards text display ?

is it option 3 and do you have to input disc 6 track 3 each time you enter the car

The modules are preprogrammed for Professional/Business CD. If equipped with SatNav, use the CD6/TRACK6 setting.

It shouldn't be forgetting the settings. Are you pressing CD1 to exit text mode after text is programmed?

I do..

I select disk 6 track 02.

Then i go to cd 01 to switch songs..

When i leave the car and come back, i have to choose cd 6 track 2 to get the tag again..

Should'nt it be like this.?

It shouldn't - how long if the vehicle switched off when this happens?

It varies..

Sometimes only minutes.. Other times over night..

Any thoughts about this issue Tom.?



Also, and i have tried to get an answer about this via email without any luck..
'
I received a dice module from you with a bad connection. Because of this, the sound is from time to time missing from the left side, and there is also some distortion.

I bought a new module from you, with the agreement that ill be refunded if you find the old one to be out of order.

I have received the new module, and it is working without any of theese issues.

However, i choose your product because i read good things about it, also i found the price to be right.

When i received the new module, i had to pay an extra 40us in customs. When i return the module today, i expect to pay another 40-50us in postage with insurance, which i was told to have in the return email..

Will you refund any of theese extra costs too me.?

This is much of a prinicipal matters, as i do not see any reason for me to pay 80-90 us extra for a product that do not work as it should.

Please send me your request via email so we can keep this thread on topic.

X5 Dice Install
 

i have purchase a dice unit for my X5 2004 model. I opened the boot area that houses the cd changer(i dont have one) and i cannot locate the 6 pin and the 3 pin connectors please hellp



robert

Annoying Text Drop
 

I installed dice silverline in X5 4.6is with Nav but no DSP. I struggled the first few times to get the dice to integrate with my iphone. I've since done this successfully & the dice seems to work ok. The annoying thing is when the ignition is turned off the dice needs reprogramming (Disc 6 Track 6) to display the text again. Even more annoying on short journeys.
I also have some sort of interferance which seems to be being picked up from the nav disc its like an electronic screech when the music is not being played or when I'm transferring to make a call it comes through the speakers til the call is made. Incidentally I installed bluetooth after the dice. I would rip it out after sheer frustration but I invested in a spec.dock from the US & spent a good deal of time & money.
Would appreciate any help.
Thanks
Jonny

I second this too.. IT's pretty annoying to have to set it to 06 02 all the time.. And just imagin explayning the procedure to the girlfriend..

I also have the electronic screech when i change to mc..

Hey there,

I also encounter the screech, but only when switching from tape to CD. No problem with text.

I do have a different problem though. Over the past few days the DICE cable has been unable to charge my iPhone 3G. It did charge in the past. The music and control elements still work, but no charge.

I disconnected the DICE for a few minutes, and that got it to charge once. It stopped working again after shutting off the car.

I don't know if it matters, but I consistently get the "Not a supported accessory" error when connecting the unit. Always have.

Just messed around with the dip settings this morning & nothing really happened. Apparantly change these & it may not work at all. This wasn't the case still worked just the same. I have disconnected to reset for 30 mins if this fails I going to throw the dice !!

My wife reported that one day her iphone didn't charge but I haven't had this problem yet.

I don't think the " not a supported accessory" message is a problem as we've always recieved this message on both of our phones.

Hi Robert
Do you have a Nav system installed? The connections should be behind where the cd changer would be or the Nav system is, somewhere behind the rear lights.

I'm liking the look of the dice. Does it also charge the ipod??

Yes - DICE will charge all iPod models on the market (as well as previous models).

Cheers Tom! Thanx for the reply.

Robert,

Are you sure your X5 is prewired for a Changer?

Just released this week, the Silverline PRO kit adds a new operating mode called SMART Mode. This mode allows users to switch between Locked and Display Modes using the Hold button on the iPod. This supplemental guide only applies to users who have selected to set the DICE kit to SMART mode. This is done using the DIP switches on the interface module.

http://www.europeanautosource.com/im...chsettings.jpg

http://www.europeanautosource.com/im...esmartmode.jpg

http://www.europeanautosource.com/im...ngfunction.jpg

Display mode is especially great for those iPhone/touch users and the Pandora app or internet radio.

More info in this thread: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-related-...tml#post617740

Thanks for that Tom
But it made no difference at all. This dice does what it likes. I have to reset the dice every time I turn off the ignition, radio or use the phone. If I'm using the dice as well as the phone the engine noise comes through & I have to switch off.
When its reset sometimes the text scrolls sometimes it doesn't sometimes you can just get stuck on one playlist/album or artist & then have to reconnect the iphone.
I think I'll reinstall my cd.
Thanks
Jonny

Is this a SILVERLINE or SILVERLINE PRO? What are the positions of the DIP switches on the DICE module?

Hey Tom, thanks for the quick response.
I think it's just the Silverline. I don't see anything that says anything about PRO. I ordered it on 5/6/2009. All the switches are switched to OFF. Anything else you need to know?

It was $159.00. It says Dice Silverline ipod integration kit with +5V charging support, trunk harness connect on my order form

I will need you to check the actual module as we started shipping the PRO models a bit early.

Let me know when you get a chance.

Tom, sent you a message with pics of the unit.

I am having a similar issue. I have 2006 X5 4.4 with analog DSP. Second car I have installed Dice into.

I have tried two Dice Silverlines, one from EAS and one RMA'd from Dice, neither will provide sound. I have all the controls and info displayed on the dash. I can select TRK 1-6 and get info such software version, albums, playlist, etc. all controls on steering work, everythings ok, just no sound.

I also have XM Direct with blitzsafe adapter, but I have taken this out of the loop and still no sound. At a loss, looking to return everything.

If 2 modules will not provide audio, I would doubt its the module anymore. Are we 100% sure this is analog DSP?

I have tried it with and without DSP module and same result.

Have you checked the power connection on the DSP unit? I had the exact same problem with my E38 installation. It turned out I didn't have a good tap on the power and ground wires for the DSP.

^ I agree. It's very unlikely you received 2 modules that do not work.

Tom, did you see the pics I sent?

No, can you please send me a copy to my direct email?

Ok, sent!

Orange,

Thanks for the suggestion, turns out it was a bad DSP.

I received a replacement DSP but did not even try it, since everyone including Dice, kept telling me I should not need the DSP module for my year and model X5. (2006 X5 4.4 sport with business CD)

On a whim, before sending everything back, I hooked up the new DSP and bam! AUDIO.

So I am now happy.

Awesome - thanks for following up.

Question:

I'd like to install an AUX input on my '02 X5. I believe it was a Jan 02 build though, and has the "business CD" but no changer or DSP. Is there a kit I can use?

Just hooked up mine.

Works perfect, this thing is awesome.....:thumbup:

Sure - but at a cost of your CD Changer:

http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...pg&w=220&h=165

Blitzsafe - AUX-in Adapter for BMW
eas - 714.369.8524 | Blitzsafe - AUX-in Adapter for BMW

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Thanks!

Don't have a changer, just the in-dash unit, so it's not a worry.

Just got my Dice iPod integration in! Can't wait to install it tomorrow! Just wanna thank EAS for hooking it up with free shipping just for being part of this forum!!!! :thumbup:

2006 X3 DICE Silverline - Switches to FM midstream then Ka-pow no Ipod
 

I think I have read every article on this thread which has been very helpful but I am still having issues with my new DICE Silverline in my 2006 CPO X3 (E83). The problem is I get text, I get audio, but after several minutes, the radio decides it has had enough of me enjoying my IPod and it would like to listen to some really crappy FM radio.

I can switch it back to IPod which works a couple of times but eventually, all I hear on the CD-Changer source are some chirps and a message saying CD Check intermittently. Eventually, there is no CD Changer mode available at all. To resolve this issue, I have to stop the car, reset the DICE, and reset the IPod but then it starts all over again. I have tried the full battery reset, I have made sure that I plug the DICE unit in via 6 pin, then 3 pin. I make sure I wait 30 seconds for the DICE to initialize. What am I missing here? Do I just have a defective DICE unit... a defective car stereo, or perhaps a defective installer (me)?

Vehicle Specs
2006 X3
- no DSP
- no satellite
- no nav
- SAT ready (SA-693)

DICE Configuration
Car: Off/Off
Ipod: Off/Off
Text Display: 1

Installation

Initial: DICE was plugged into the console using the non CD-Sars connection and radio used the original non CD-SARS 12 pin plug. This led to the same behavior as described above but IPod play was limited to 10 seconds instead of 10 minutes. When I switched the 12 pin plug I could not get audio out of the console area using either 6 pin connector.

Current: DICE is plugged in the rear cargo area with the wiring run along the base board to the console as recommended on this thread. The 12 pin plug was switched on the back of the BMW radio to use the CD-SARS connector.

I really appreciate any help although it seems many people do not have the SAT ready configuration.

Some BMWs are a bit temperamental during the initialization process. Perform the following steps:

1. Disconnect iPod from cable
2. Remove battery cables, negative first
3. Touch battery cable terminals together (away from battery) for +5 seconds, a small spark is normal as this is stored power draining from the system.
4. Allow cables to remain disconnected for about 5-7 minutes
5. Reconnect battery cables onto battery, negative last.
6. Reboot iPod by pressing on MENU and CENTER buttons for +5 seconds and then reconnecting to the DICE cable after the reboot process is completed.

Let me know if these steps correct the problem.

I tried this last night (based on one of your previous posts) and I attempted this again after receiving your message. However, I still get the same results. DICE support recommended trying to use Text Display 6 (Nav) for some reason so I tried that as well. One thing interesting is that when the radio switches to FM and then I switch back to CD changer, the radio says CHECK CD and I cannot select any of the disk numbers. Then the radio gives up and I can no longer here the music after it clicks a bit.

You think maybe because I have an older car and a newer DICE unit, this is causing compatibility issues?

It wouldn't be that at all. Where (and when) was the kit purchased?

I ordered it from Bavariansoundwerks.com last Sunday. I haven't contacted them about my issue yet.

BMW X3 iPod Integration Kit by DICE | BSW

You'll have to contact them directly for an exchange if one is needed.

Hi.

I have a problem with having to choose where to display the mp3tag.

It is a bit strange actually, because at times when powering up the system, the text will be as i chose it earlier, but then the ipod shows detached. I then have to unplug the ipod and reconnect it and everythjing is fine^.

Other times when i power up the system, the ipod starts playing right away, but at this time, there is no tag text anywhere, and i have to access disk 06 to choose where to show the text.

I can not see any difference in wether the car has been locked or not, and the time its shut off varies in both circumstances..

It happens more often that the the ipod plays straight away, and i have to choose where the text is displayed..

Any thoughts Tom.? It is a bit annoying having to select text all the time.. I can leave the car for 5 minutes and i have to set it up again...

Is this a a SILVERLINE or SILVERLINE PRO kit?

That would be the non pro silverline, Tom..

Can you read me the numbers on the back of the module, beneath the bar code?

hi
sent an email to eas today ,not sure how long it will take to get an answer , i know the time difference will screw things up a bit , it's 7.30 pm here atm
i have an 06 X5 with nav ,tv , cd changer no dsp
want the best set up you have for it for the ipod and need it posted to AUS .
did find one seller on ebay but he is in the states anyway and he states his are refurbished units ,whats the story there

No idea on the refurbs, but there will likely not have any type of warranty with those units.

Here's the kit you need for your X5:

DICE - SILVERLINE PRO iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)
eas - 714.369.8524 | DICE - SILVERLINE PRO iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)

Kits are in stock, ready to ship.

Tom, I just purchased a Silverline Pro (assume Pro as it has the 'Smart' mode dip switch option) from EAS and picked it up at the shop last week. Our '05 X5 has standard business stereo (no nav, dsp, etc).

Got it installed without incident, but despite having the battery cables unplugged for the entire install the stereo would not recognize the Dice unit. I followed the procedure you've recommended to others here on how to reset things by removing cables, touching for 5 secs., leaving off for 5-7 mins., etc., and now I've got music coming from the iPod, BUT I can't seem to change the 'modes'. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong.

I thought to change modes, I need to disconnect the iPod, slide the lock switch to either unlock (allows iPod click wheel control) or lock (allows browsing via the car stereo/steering wheel controls), then reattach. What I see at all times, is the iPod acts like it's locked (Dice logo on iPod) and the song titles are streaming on the instrument cluster display vs. the head unit display. I'd like to control via the click wheel, but can't seem to get the iPod to let me control things there.

Any help you can offer would be appreciated!
Ron Hipwell

Ron,

Feel free to drop by and I would happy to take a look for you.

I contacted Bavarian, they sent me a new DICE module and I'm having the same exact issues as before so I'm stumped.

-Andrew

Tom, Thanks for the kind offer to help personally. I'm not sure if I can get by the shop before we head out on our road trip.

This morning, I plugged in the 'unlocked' iPod (30GB Video) and the iPod interface remained up (i.e. clickwheel operational). I then hit 'Mode' on the Business Radio to get to the DICE which worked fine and music was playing and sounded good. The instrument cluster displayed the scrolling song title. Note that during this process I never hit any CD/Track # buttons. I was able to select another song using the clickwheel, so it appears the unlocked mode of the Smart enabled module is working.

I unplugged the iPod and the dash display showed 'Detached'. Without turning the iPod off, I slid the 'Lock' button to the locked position and reattached the DICE cable and there is no music. The iPod interface was still on the iPod's display, NOT the DICE logo screen. Again, at this point I haven't hit any CD or Track # buttons on the head unit as I'm not sure which ones to hit.

Perhaps you've covered it somewhere in this extensive thread already and could just direct me to it, but otherwise, would you please run through the steps for using the 'locked' mode? Sort of a 'DICE for Dummies' step by step would be great. I can try the steps and perhaps save myself a trip since I'm running short on time to stop by right now.

Many thanks! Ron

Yes - this is covered in Post #716.

Thanks Tom. I have seen that instruction for the 'Display mode', which I understand to be the iPod clickwheel control.

I'm confused about what I should be doing/seeing in the 'locked' mode (radio control - full integration). Will the song names only be available on the OBD in the instrument cluster? I was thinking you could direct it to display on the head unit. Am I wrong? If not, then I need some help understanding how to change the display location. If someone can take me through the process, from hooking up the iPod, turning it on, what CD/track buttons to press and importantly the sequence of these activities to ensure successful operation. The factory manual DICE provides is cryptic as hell.

I consider myself technically savvy, but this thing just assumes too many elemental things are known and done by the user. It's not intuitive. We need the details. Add a page to the manual to accomodate if required. OR even better...post a video of the process from entering the vehicle with the iPod turned off, to hooking it up, all button presses required and in what sequence, etc. The whole process. It would save a lot of frustration and needless questions. It's ease of installation belies the harder task of actually getting it to operate as designed, especially with the newer Smart mode models. All instructions are aimed at the use of the 'locked' mode. How about a video of changing from one mode to the other? I'm getting the sense that the DICE is very temperamental with respect to how it's approached and sequence of connection and setup processes. Not saying it's a bad or even flawed product, but if I'm having trouble figuring out this thing, I KNOW my wife is going to flip out or worse, just avoid using the unit.

Thanks for listening. Any help with successfully switching from locked to display modes with the Smart models would be much appreciated.

Ron

Text (in either unlocked or Smart Mode) can be ported to either the radio/NAV or OBC - it's up to you. CD6/TRACK4 will place the text onto the radio display, which is typically preferred.

"On the Fly" only works with an unlocked iPod going to locked mode. If locked, the iPod will need to be disconnected, unlocked and reconnected.

Just to clarify my previous post. My suggestions regarding amplifying the DICE user manual provided above were aimed at the manufacturer, NOT EAS or Tom there who has been such a helpful resource here!

Thanks, Ron

Tom you're a gem!

Exactly what I needed. I will try this once I get home and report back as to my success (hopefully!).

Thanks again for your patience, Ron

I had all sorts of problems with dice dropping settings each time ignition was switched off or iphone removed. To my frustration I purchased another which worked fine. I was on hols when my battery went flat at the airport & now have the same horrible problems all over again.
Please are there any solutions?

I got the Silverline Pro installed today, since I already had a Silverline in there it was an easy job just to pull out the Dice box and the cable from the box to the Iphone/Ipod.
I noticed the cable from the Dice unit to the CD changer plug had different colour coded wires to my current one but all seems to work ok so I assume it doesn't make any difference?
Only issue I do have is that when I plug the Iphone in I get the message 'Accessory not compatible, do you want to turn on airplane mode' or something like that. Its a bit annoying but I can live with it if there is no way to get rid of it?

There's something else going on with the system. Have you or a technician performed a battery draw test to find out what is causing the issue?

This is normal - the DICE colors are a bit different , but connectors are keyed.

This is normal as well, even the BMW kits display this because of the lack of an authentication chip. You can either press "no" or the message will go away on its own after +7 seconds.

Hi, does anyone know where I can get my hands on the cable that runs from the factory amp coaxial to the Dice adapter? See picture below! If even I can just get the connector piece, I can solder it up to the other side of the cable I already have.

Thanks!

:wow: sorry I shoulda cropped it, my bad

I have some in stock, give me a call.

Thanks Tom :thumbup:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to the forum. I just installed the DICE module on my 03 X5 w/ Nav and DSP. Here are my two problems:
1-Every other time I start the car, the car does not "recognize" the i-pod and I only get a constant buzz/hiss sound from the stereo. If I turn the ignition off and turn the car back on, everything works fine.
2-Everytime I start the car, I have to go to CD6 track 6 and then back to CD1 to see the text message. I assumed once you set it, then you don't have to repeat the process daily.

Any help is greatly appreciated. By the way, I have had four different X5s and now is the first time I am posting on this forum. Shame on me. LOL

Tom, installed my Dice, it worked for a week. I shut my car down for an hour or so, Dice was working, turned car back on, and since then Dice doesn't work. The radio display simply says "ATTACHED", I found today that even when the Ipod is not attached, it still says "ATTACHED" what do you thinK?

Try disconnecting and rebooting the iPod.

Are you leaving the iPod connected to the DICE overnight in the vehicle?

Not every night. It does not seem to make a difference for either problem if I leave it connected or disconeected at night. Any ideas?

Hi Tom,

I just received the Silverline Pro + DSP yesterday, and I'm having some install problems today. It's going into a 2006 X5 w/ nav.

I've taken the DSP module out of the equation to try to simplify troubleshooting.

When I browse to Disc 6, I just see * DICE * on the nav display. I select track 2 (have titles displayed on the nav), then plug in my iPhone 3G and go to Disc 5.

The iPhone will display the "Accessory not made to work with iPhone" message. Occasionally it will start playing a track (I'd say once out of every four times that I plug in the iPhone). There are no track/album/artist titles, it just says the track number on the nav.

If I advance the track number using the buttons on the radio, the song doesn't change. There is a slight delay, and then it picks up playing the same song again (the track number will change - just not the song).

If I leave the DSP in the equation, I just get a beeping/static type noise that goes in and out a few times per second.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: I think I'm half way there. I moved both of the iPod switches to the ON position (they were both off). Now I can control everything from the iPhone touchscreen, and it plays music and works (no title/artist/info on the nav screen, but I can live without that).

Unfortunately DSP still does not work. If I route the 6-pin through the DSP, all I get is the static/screeching noise. I've verified the 12v connections with a multimeter. What else can I try?

Try CD 6, Track 6 to see if the display works.

If I go to CD 6, Track 6 it scrolls through, Core 1.5, Car 1.0, iPod 1.2, Aux 1.0.

I drove around yesterday and I also noticed that when I'm using the ipod, I can't use my navigation. If I press the right side of the Mode button on the nav, the nav screen comes up for a second, then the screen goes back to the CD player screen.

Help!

What you need to do is, go to CD6, Track 6 and then go back to CD1, you will see the track titles then. After you go to CD1, then from there you can go to CD 2 to see your playlists or to CD3 to see the Artists list. Hopefully this helps.

When you are using the DICE the only way to get your NAV screen back is to hit the MENU button and then click on NAVIGATION (i.e., you cannot toggle between the two by using the Mode button, you instead need to go back to the home screen and select gps). This is not ideal, but it is how it works.

That worked. Thanks!

Okay, that makes sense.

Now I just need to get the DSP module working.

Hi Tom
Today I finally received my DSP Kit for DICE iPod Integration Kit, the problem now is: I couldn't find the six pin connector in my 2002 DSP X5!!
Please help again...

That's because Digital DSP equipped X5s do not have a 6-pin connector.

You will be plugging the coaxial connector from the DSP into the amp, which converts this signal to the 6-pin connector that is plugged into the DICE harness.

Tom,

I have the origional Dice in my E46 M3, so I know what limitations it has and I've been trying to read as much as I can about the Silverline Pro. I also have an '08 E90 M3 with I-Drive and 99% love the Ipod interface. The questions I have are:

1. (which I believe the answer is no) With the Silverline Pro, with a MKIV Nav unit, can you do searches using & selecting Artist on the Nav screen like the new I-Drive Ipod interfaces?

2. I saw the whole CD 1-6 and all that, but while one song is playing, can you search for a certain song (via artist but without going through the album) & NOT play it until you select it?

3. If you ONLY want to use the Nav interface & not the Ipod itself, Is the ONLY way to pic a song (not having to figure out what album a certain artist has a song on) manipulate your iTunes and delete the album titles? or is it by playlists?

DICE will not work on e9x vehicles - look into the mObridge kit instead:

mObridge - iPod integration kit for e90/91/92/93 3-series
eas - 714.369.8524 | mObridge - iPod integration kit for e9x 3-series

:dunno: Can you read? I was asking about the Dice Silverline Pro on a MKIV, not an E90 M3. I said I would like to find a system that works like the I-Drive iPod system, but not sure if any do...

so can the 3 questions be answered?

There is not a system with iDrive-like capabilities for your e46, sorry.

Correction - YOU don't sell a system with iDrive-like capabilities for the E46.

Are you speaking of the Intravee II? or is there another system out there I don't know about?

I just installed the Intravee II in my wife's E53 X5 & it is almost there & THAT is why I'm inquiring about the Dice Silverline Pro and if it would function better than the Intravee II. The reason I asked the 3 questions I did, is because Intravee II (well actually the Alpine unit needed) doesn't allow these things to happen.

Opinions are up to the end user.

The SILVERLINE PRO utilizes the most used features of the iPod to your steering wheel or radio controls and is a fraction of the cost of the Intravee.

Intravee-related discussions can be continued in a different thread since this is a DICE-specific support thread.

I have a 2002 E39 M5 with boot mounted 6 CD changer, I have enquired about the Denison setup but the installers cried off. Is the Dice setup an easy install or will I have to trawl cables to and from the boot?

Thaks for any info. you can give.

Dave

Due to the SatNav, you will need the trunk interface kit - you may or may not have digital DSP, we have a tech article on this subject here:

https://www.europeanautosource.com/s...mod_id=2&id=11

Since this is a trunk interface kit, it will require the cable be run into the cabin area where iPod placement is desired.

Ok, I see, just how much of a bugbear is the installation?

Dave

Since M5s have fold down seats, getting the cable to the cabin area is very easy, most people will place the iPod in the glovebox.

Err.. my UK spec. M5 doesnt have fold down rear seats, it has a solid bulkhead and one piece rear seat back and of course the glovebox is on the other side from a stateside one, I'll have a trawl around the boot and rear squab and see how easy it might be, What dimensions are the connector and cable as these will need to be fished/routed?

Thanks

Dave

If you keep the iPod in the trunk (I guess you would call it the boot) the installation will take about 5 minutes. I have it that way in my X5 and it is not a problem at all. I thought one day I would run the wire to the front but just haven't found it necessary. I mean, hey, when it was a CD changer I was in the trunk all the time swapping out the CDs anyway. Cheers.

Provided all the functionality is accessible remotely that won't be a problem and could be a neat solution, thanks :).

Guess I had better bite the bullet and get one on order..

dave

Yes, once the iPod is attached to the Dice cable the iPod controls are locked out and all of the functionality is controlled remotely. The ONLY drawback I have found to keeping the iPod in the trunk is that if I don't switch to that source at least once a day the iPod will go into hibernation and the only way to wake it is to press the middle button on the iPod, which necessitates opening the trunk. There are ways to disable hibernation on certain iPod models, and if you use the iPod at least once a day this is moot because hibernation does not occur. The practical upshot for me is that I ocassionally need to open the trunk and hit the button to wake up the iPod at the beginning of the work week.

I have been to the DICE site to enquire which kit I need to buy to fit my IPod remotely in the boot of my E39 M5 - 2002, but so far have had no response. Does anyone here know so I can order the appropriate kit...

Thanks..

Dave

Here's the kit you need:

DICE - SILVERLINE PRO iPod Integration Kit for 5 Series/M5 97-03 (Trunk Interface)
eas - 714.369.8524 | DICE - SILVERLINE PRO iPod Integration Kit for 5 Series/M5 97-03 (Trunk Interface)

If you have a coaxial cable entering your current CD Stacker, you will need the "Digital DSP" kit. We go into depth on the setups here: https://www.europeanautosource.com/s...mod_id=2&id=11

Bluetooth Compatibility
 

Tom,

I recently began using the Bluetooth capability of my 2005 X5 4.4 (NAV, no DSP) and note that when a phone call is answered the DICE unit loses the ability to display or scroll text. I checked the DICE manual and the text can be restored by hitting CD6>Track 7. So although it is possible to get the text back, it is obviously rather annoying to have to go through this procedure every time I recieve a phone call. Has the DICE software been updated to correct this, or is there a way to get the text back without going through this procedure? Thanks for your help.

This happened on earlier models, I would recommend contacting DICE to speak directly with a technician on your issue.

DICE can be contacted at 888.342.3999 or by email at [email protected].

Thanks Tom. I spoke to DICE support about this and was told that my issue is present in ALL of the past and present SILVERLINE/SILVERLINE PRO models, but that they are working to fix it with a future upgrade/enhancement that is still several months out. Will you keep us posted on this board as new products or enhancements are announced by DICE?

Yes - we'll post any new announcements or news in this thread.

where is the best spot to have the wire come thru. I notice that you have it in the center console, however, i do not want that...

Possible to come through the cupholders without making a huge cut?