Nav OS V27 has been released
 

Thanks to Appy, V27 is now available here at X5world!! This is NOT a beta, it is the final released version of V27 that can have the Perspective Mode turned on by accessing the Nav hidden settings menu. :thumbup:

For those that would prefer a version with a custom X5world splash screen, I am working on that now and will be making that available here soon.

A few notes on the upgrade, but first a reminder that there are risks to doing the upgrade on your own, so do so knowing that risk is present. Although rare, problems can occur if update steps aren't followed properly or there are issues with the media. Such conditions can cause problems with the nav drive which may not be recoverable.

- The image files have been rar'd (compressed), so you will first need to un-rar them. I use a program called TugZip, but there are other programs such as WinRAR that will also do the trick.
- Once you have uncompressed the image files you will need to burn them to a CD-R using a program called Alcohol 120%, which is available as a free 30 day trial here - http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/en/download_120.php
- Burn the disk using a high quality CD-R disk at the lowest possible burning speed using these steps:

1. click on "image burning wizard" then click "browse" and find the folder that you extracted the two files to.
2. click on "bmw v27" (there's only one to choose) and click "open" it.
3. Under Image file information, it should list the two files. Click "Next"
4. If you didn't insert a high quality CD-R earlier, insert it and set the write speed at the slowest one (mine was 4x). Make sure the CD/DVD Recorder is set on the right drive.
5. Click "Start" and it should start burning. Once it reaches 100%, it'll be done and the disc will eject on its own.

- Once the disk is ready, follow these steps

1. Go to your vehicle and turn the ignition switch to the first position. Let the navigation system boot up and get into a normal operating mode.
2. Leaving the system on (never turn the power off during these steps!!), go back and eject the navigation CD from your drive unit.
3. Put in the V27 disk you created into your drive unit. Watch your screen and be patient. It says it will take about 6 minutes to do the upgrade, but it doesn't take that long. When it’s done it will eject the CD automatically.
4. Put your navigation CD back in the drive and make sure everything is working properly.

To activate the Perspective view mode with V27 you need to do the following (thanks to 2Wires for this info):

1. Go to the main menu and then settings. Press the menu button for about 10 seconds until a new menu appears.
2. Check "Perspective". Voilá. Perspective mode is now available.

Now for what you have all been waiting for - the V27 download link

From the X5world team - Enjoy!! :D

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/member.../v27%20002.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/member.../v27%20005.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/member.../v27%20006.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/member.../v27%20007.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/member.../v27%20009.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/images/member.../v27%20010.jpg

Thank you, Jeff. I'm assuming that V27 has the Perspective mode on that hidden menu?

Thanks again Jeff! Downloading it right now!

Yes, it can be activated via the hidden menu :thumbup:

anything new? is there a perspective menu? any bugs?
is this the FINAL version..not the beta one correct?

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, AS IT IS I'M IN EURO MODE WITHOUT THE "AUX VENT " AND " EMERGENCY " OPTIONS IN THE MAIN SCREEN, RUNNING V26 AND THE DEALER SAYS THAT IF THE ENGINEER LOOKS AT IT TO RECODE THE MKIV, HE WILL VOID MY WARRANTY BECAUSE OF THE CAMERA ON THE ROUNDEL!!!!!

Yeah, I sort of like the lack of the accept screen. Will this come back if I upgrade to v27 from the perspective-hacked v26?

I had v26 (never loaded 26.09a) on my 2003.5 M3 and updated to v27 posted above and no perspective view. :(

I bet it's only on the alpha build (26.09a) and any subsequent updates after that retains that view.

Does anyone have the official release notes for v27?

UPDATE: Thanks to 2Wires, the Perspective option is now available. See 2Wire's post below on the additional steps needed to turn on Perspective mode once you do the update. Also thanks to UCrewX5 for posting the fw image. :)

Hello!! Excused for English little clearly but are Italian. I wanted chiedere..Dove I can buy the CD V27 in order to install on my BMW. Thanks Gianni

Ciao!! Scusate per l'inglese poco chiaro ma sono Italiano. Volevo chiedere..Dove posso comprare il CD V27 per installare sulla mia BMW. Grazie Gianni

To activate the birdview with V27 do the following:
Go to the main menu and then settings. Press the menu button for about 10s until a new menu appears.
Check "Perspective". Voilá. Birdview is now available.

Tino

Ah ha, that did the trick. Thanks. It now has the Perspective option. Thanks 2Wires. :)

confirmed that it works as noted by 2wires above.. just loaded from v26 on mk4 x3 and i now have perspective option and view.

woohoo!

No, once you lose the accept screen it is gone for good unless you have your dealer recode the unit. :tsk:

Which dealer? If it is BMW of Bayside (since your profile says you're in Queens, NY) contact me off the board and I'll give you a suggestion.

In any event:

1) You can be charged for re-coding the NAV (particularly because of something you did). If your car is in for some other reason, a nice dealer may do it for free. If you have a good relationship with your dealer's service people, they may do it for free.

2) There is a law, called the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Improvement Act, which says that a warranty claim cannot be denied just because aftermarket parts are installed. The dealer would have to prove that the aftermarket parts were directly responsible for the problem. See http://www.google.com/search?q=magnu...mprovement+act for some relevant Google results. In any event, the re-coding is a service you would expect to be charged for (see #1), so warranty issues don't come into consideration.

Does anyone have an iso or cue/bin of this image? I don't have access to a windows computer for a while.

I tried renaming the .mdf to .iso as some have suggested, but that wasn't recognized as a valid. burning it anyway resulted in a coaster.

Hi everyone.

My nav has italian language, does this update change the language?
Or installing it i'll lose the italian?

Thanks

it should keep it...

Your available languages will not change. What you have now you will also have after the update. Nothing more and nothing less.

Thanks!
Fantastic!

....32%.... and here it's 3:23 am..... i want to install it before to go to bed!

Bye

I wanted to add the british language for the woman that speaks. Is this possible with this Update?

It should be possible to go into the image files and alter the file names to trick the system into playing the voices you prefer to hear. See http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...-software.html for some tips on how to do this.

First post. Thanks for uploading the files and the directions. Much appreciated. I'm hoping to upgrade to v27 with a new splash screen.

Messed up the nav
 

Hi, I think I've done it... I tried the upgrade, but I must have ejected the disc too soon.

I put the disc in the drive on the initial boot, and all seemed to go well. The screen notified me about loading software, but then the system went to a blank screen for a several minutes. I then shut off the car and ejected the disc, causing the screen to go into a blank state on boot. The radio works, but all information is absent.

My question is: Can I fix this myself or will I need to visit the dealer? I've upgraded the nav several times, but this is the first problem I've encountered. I appreciate any advice in resolving this issue of mine.

Try pulling out the fuse and waiting some time before placing the fuse back in. See what happens. If the unit is still showing a blank screen, try downgrading to a older version and then upgrade. You may need to have the car re-coded by the dealer after this.

I'll give that suggestion a shot.

Edit: I pulled fuses 7 and 41 for the Navigation, but the screen still comes up blank. I'm at a loss. The worst part is if I do have to deal with the dealer.

I should have included the fact mine is a 3 series, not an X series.

Have you tried to put the Nav OS CD in the drive from an earlier version? v23/24/25?

JV

No, but I'll give that a try right now. I wanted to avoid that option, since I don't want to get into European mode.

If that downgrade to an earlier version works, then you should be able to reinstall the v27 CD and leave it in to do it's duty until it ejects itself. If it doesn't eject within a half hour, then there's likely a problem with the copy of v27 that you burned.

Good luck!

JV

SO you guys and gals know .. In perspective view the street names are still not there. My distances are in Yards still. IS there anyway to put them back to feet?

-Ferrari

Correct. You CAN possibly recover the nav by going back to a known good version.

One note of caution. NEVER turn off the car or try to force the software disk out during an upgrade. If it fails, once the CD comes out PUT in an older version without turning ANYTHING off

By the way I posted on the other thread that you can remove the instrument cluster fuses to recover Aux Ventillation.

Martin

I stuck in the v.26 cd, and everything worked fine again. The cd just told me my copy was current, so I confirmed with an OK and everything went back to normal. I'm trying again to get v27, but I've put in a freshly burnt copy of the disc. Again it is having a problem, so I left it at the blank screen with hopes it'll load within the next few minutes.

I'm about to burn a new copy now. I should add I burnt the last two on GQ media at 40x (max speed). After a few software loads, I've never had a problem with this combination.

Edit (8:46pm): I corrected a typo.

I just ran back out and the drive remained blank. I did the v26 swap again, so that's my fail safe option now. I'm about to try my newest burnt copy.

Edit: Success! I've concluded that my previous two copies were faulty in some way. I reburnt using a different burner, same GQ-branded media, at an even faster 52x (I'm impatient). Watching installer 7.00 was an exciting moment for me. When I switched on Perspective mode, the view was great! The time is almost 9:00pm and the sky was pouring rain a minute ago, but the nav shows a bright blue sky littered with clouds, and that reflects what I'm feeling now. Thanks to all for the prompt responses.

The street names appear absent, but I remember reading that so it's no surprise. When zooming to 1/4 scale, I can see some lake names and federal lands. With perspective mode, the scales beyond 1/2 mile are more useful now.

Congrats, man! Are you in US mode now?

FYI- most people here recommend burning a copy of the Nav OS at the lowest possible speed when you do it.

Glad you got v27 up & running.

JV

Sweet, thanks guys! I'll have to try it tomorrow.

I never left US mode. Something was quirky about the v27 cds I made. I noticed that when inserted, they read fine but then would go into the blank screen from which they will never return. I also noticed that the nav drive power light shuts off. Apparently, the discs never initiated the install, so the v26 disc simply brings it out of the blank screen mode without installing either. I'm glad you passed that tip along.

When I placed the good copy of the v27 in the drive, the same thing happened up to the point the light shut off. However, the light came back on and that started the process for the upgrade.

JV, your help was invaluable. Thanks to you and the others for the assistance.

I know about burning at the slowest speed. That's usually just a precaution that I feel has passed down from a time when burners were not nearly as efficient and refined. For instance, 2x or 4x burns used to cause problems back in the days. Drives now come with sizeable buffers, the laser writes more precisely, and CD media is better, too.

I'm also one of those people who pull the usb key storage devices out without "safely removing hardware". =)

I did the upgrade from v26 and it said System is Uptodate! after about 20secs. But I can't see the Perspective mode. I've gone into the Service mode in Settings by holding the Menu button down but there is no menu or submenu with anything about Perspective. It's as if it thinks the v27 disc is no higher than the v26 and that there is nothing to upgrade. I'm in Australia BTW.

Also what version should it be saying in Settings? Any help would be great.

v27 should display as 4-1/70. Do you have an MkIV/DVD based Nav system or an earlier type of CD based drive?

JV

Downloaded...Decompressed...Burned the CD
...
Just upgraded a stock V26 MK IV (I have a 2006 model X5).
Turned on perspective mode in the secret menu (be sure to scroll all the way down past the bottom - it is on a line by itself)
All three map mode options are available now.
Very cool.

There are no street names in perspective mode, but map landmarks are still there (so is the white line that guides you to your destination. For some reason the ETA doesn't seem to work (shows zeroes) - but maybe I have to drive around more (?)

The gang at X5WORLD rocks!

Thanks guys...I just downloaded the file. This will be in queue on my list of projects for Sunday's.

Dude...the X5 guys are so ahead of the curve...

I'm showing SW 3-1/63 is that IV? It's a 2002 330Ci.

You have an MkIII Nav drive, and v27 is only for the MkIV DVD Nav drive.

3-1/63 is the most current software for your specific drive.

JV

Cheers for that, I did a bit more digging on the site and came to the same conclusion. I also saw the Mark III can be swapped with a Mark IV one so that might be something to look at.

Damn right, cousin! I just did that myself not 3 weeks ago and MAN! What a difference! Totally worth it, and you can sell your old MkIII on ebay once you swap it.

Stick around if you need anything else, lots of helpful people on this forum.

JV

thanks.. i luv the perspective mode :)

I've had Perspective on my 745 with v26 for some time now. I guess maybe v26 doesnt put perspective on all drives? I know my 745 has a navi02 or navi03 drive, CD based upgraded to DVD by dealer a couple weeks ago.

If your 745 has I-Drive, you have a different Nav drive than the X5 and E46/39 have.

JV

Maybe it is obvious, but it's not clear to me how you download the .rar file from the link to Megaupload. The v27 shows on the screen, but there is no link to download that I see.

That gets everyone the first time:)

Top right part of the page- where the countdown displays- click the X next to MEGAUPLOAD LINKS. Should be a link under that popup.

JV

Megaupload Download
 

Great, that works, clicking on the X. Thanks for the quick tip.

In prospective mode v27, the street names aren't showing... Are you guys seeing the same thing??

@ Dygital






yes i am too. But i Think ist not nessaserry.

CU AlexST

No problem with the download. Uncompressed the .rar file with TugZIP as recommended by Ucrew. Then used Alcohol120 to burn the image onto a CD-R using the slowest speed....which was 4X on my CD burner.

Did the usual upgrade....put the key in position 1, press accept, eject the Map DVD from the drive....put in the CD with V27 OS in it....then let it upgrade....the screen will go blank for about 5-10 seconds, then you'll see the upgrade screen....upgrading software.....then it will pop out the CD on its own....you should remove the CD....go back in the car and press "OK" to reboot the NAV system....when it is loaded up, then put back in your DVD Map disk.

Then press "Menu"....go to Setting....if you see SW 4-1/70, then you have V27 loaded up....However, now you'll have to hold on the MENU button for about 5-10 seconds....now you are in the "service menu" and using the right knob and turn it all the way to the bottom (it will scroll) and you'll see "Perspective"....select it and turn it on and then hit your MENU button to escape.

Now, you can go select "Perspective" in the Map positioning option.


Again, thanks to xoutpost.com!

Hello,

the Update didnt work on my Mk4

Burned 4x on 3 diffrent CDs.

I get the Message "Incorrect CD in navigation Computer. Please insert appropriate CD."

Stefan

Thanks for this update , I did it without any problem. I even change the logo and put in the Dutch language. The only thing I regret is that I now lost the GB language because my menu shows me " GB - F - D " ( GB= English & F= French & D = German) and at first I changed the French language to the Dutch but the whole menu stays in French and since I do not understand or can read this language I was forced to do it to the English language. Is there a possibility to change the menu that it for example shows me " GB - US - D " and I can change the GB or US in Dutch and keep also the English language ?

Edit: Thanks to Lebowski, my problem is solved.

Hi!
Here at Russia, i have a problem with Megaupload. They have only 500 slots for all Russia. This slots are always busy. My antivirus doesnt give me to download megaupload adware (they promise, that with adware there will be no slots limit), so, before uninstalling AV, i decided to ask here, if someone could upload it to my fast FTP, please, write me PM. Thank you.

I gotta ask... what good is v27 with perspective view? That view has no street names other than major highways. Admittedly the view looks cool, but i find it completely useless. Are there plans to add street names to it? (at least the upcoming streets in the direction you are traveling)

Thanks a lot!!! ;-)

I am having problems with Mega upload?? It says that my IP address is downloading but nothing is happening, I tried to go back and try again but it is telling me my download limit is exceeded? Anyone got any pointers??

Thanks

Jason

Fantastic Stuff, Downloaded quick and is running in 3d perspective mode in my 2001 E39 M5. Was up at 8am on a Sunday morning doing this!!! First in UK??

Not sure if you were first but I also have it up and running.

Much better than previous views....

Are there any other changes apart form the 3D view?

Thanks very much!

Can we change the "welcome logo" in v27 as we do in v26?

JBerto, yes..if you read my earlier post I even change the language.

All ok with my Mk4.

Fantastic

All ok with the update on my babe!!! less than 1 minute for the update.

I've read that some user have had problems updating. I had the same
problem when I did the update to v26.
The most important thing is to use HIGH QUALITY CD and
to burn the image file at the lowest speed you can.

here is some shot from the prospective view of south Italy.

http://www.bmw330cd.biz.ly/navi%201.jpg

http://www.bmw330cd.biz.ly/navi%202.jpg

Bye guys!

Download all sorted, but have been busy is all?? Just a quick question, does perspective work in directional travel and pointing north??? I have been using the rolled back patch to V26 with V26.09 obviously only had the one view which if I changed would lose??

Thanks

Jason

Hello,

I am a guy from Germany with bad English sorry. I have the following question: Is the version at mega-upload exactly the same like BMW ?
It is no beta version or? I would like to use really only the original bmw version, not the T.09 ? Beta or the other modified versions the days before.

Much thanks for your help and greetings from germany (Wuppertal)
Stephan

It took me a while to find the "secret menu" is there anything else in there I need to be concerned with?? what other settings would I want to play with??

Jason

I lost Aux Ventilation (2003 M5) when changing software a couple of times. All you have to do is REBOOT (disconnect negative battery terminal).

Cheers

emule Link to V27 software
 

Hi all,

I downloaded V27 at about 2am (UK time) this morning... I've now shared the v27 software in emule..

The emule link is below...

ed2k://|file|bmw%20v27%20navigation%20update.rar|14350127 5|B1E4B11FDE0324EA20CB3342DED915AE|h=252SLMNNBZ6IK 453JAIL3HYQZVVQSAAZ|/

if you haven't got emule then get it from www.emule-project.net

if you can't use the link above (with emule installed), then just do a search for "bmw v27", ensuring that you do a "Global Server(s)" search, and not a "local server" search..

NavMan

So is there any reason to upgrade to V27 from the X5World 3D perspective version of V26?

At this point I haven't heard of any other reasons to do so. I'll be working on putting out an X5world version today so that people who liked my X5world V26 version will be able to keep that custom splash screen.

Jeff

Ok to this update but now some questions come into my mind....

This update is not for the prospective view, because this option is
hidden. so:

1. why to hide this WODERFULL feature? maybe it isn't stable yet?

2. if this update is not for the prospetcive view what are the new
features? it corrects some bugs? more speed in calculating itinerary?
or what?

Thanks

1. I agree that Perspective mode is a WONDERFUL feature. I'm not sure why BMW opted to hide the activation of this in the hidden service menus, but I feel pretty confident that BMW wouldn't have allowed it to be released on the final V27 version if it wasn't stable. I've been running the hacked V26 version for quite some time now and it's been rock solid.

2. I haven't heard of any other new features besides perspective yet. But BMW has made lots of Nav OS updates over the years without having any major enhancements (until V26, that is). So likely it's just some additional refinement of the software code.

Enjoy!

p.s. I loved seeing the screen shots of your Perspective mode in Italy. Very cool :thumbup:

does v27 work on MKIII or only MK4?

MKIV only...

Could anybody please post a picture of the map view setup menu you'll get after having turned perspective on? There should be three choices then, right?

And is birdview available in both modes i.e. pointing north and travel direction?

TIA

I have upgraded my MK4 now but I'm going to downgrade back to the improoved v26 from x5world. There's no chance get pointing north perspective as it was in the x5world V26. It ran rock solid and I couldn't find any advantage in v27.

Would it be possible make the perspectice point toggle between pointing north and car direction in v27?

That was the only chance for BMW to remove the t26.09 from the market

anybody get a crc error when unrarring the rar (v27) file???

I used TugZip and had no problems at all.

Ciao Gianni! - Download it from this group for free... look at the first message above.

Thanks
TugZip did the job

now i got another problem

in Alcohol 120% after going into Image Burning Wizard and selecting the appropriate file.....the file info is wrong

the info is below...any ideas???

Type: Media Descriptor Image file
Path: C:\Documents and Settings\Fabio\My Documents\bmw v27\
Name: bmw v27.mds
Size: 0.00 MB
Session: 1
Track: 1


Session 01:
Track 01: Mode 2 Form 1, Length: 128598(251.2 MB), Address: 000000

edit: disregard my retardedness

if i do it that way i get this....

Type: Unknown
Path: C:\Documents and Settings\Fabio\My Documents\
Name: bmw v27.rar
Size: 112.72 MB
Session: 1
Track: 1


Session 01:
Track 01: Unknown, Length: 050252(98.1 MB)(Unknown), Address: 000000

After you activate the perspective view in the hidden menu there are 3 choices in the normal nav menu : pointing north - traveling direction and perspective. You can chouse between perspective and flat picture in bouth the pointing nord and traveling direction.

Hey guys, I just put V27 on my car and now I have a few problems with my navi:
1. No more warning sign at the beginning
2. Distance is measured in mileage (which is the same) and yards now (it used to be feet)
3. Perspective mode doesn't work, even with the option on - can this be because I'm using maps version 2003.2?
Any help would be appreciated.

still a bit confused ...
 

So, do I get this right, you actually have pointing north in 2D and 3D as well as traveling direction 2D *and* 3D?

I'm asking since "vollgasfahrer" wrote:
"I have upgraded my MK4 now but I'm going to downgrade back to the improoved v26 from x5world. There's no chance get pointing north perspective as it was in the x5world V26. It ran rock solid and I couldn't find any advantage in v27."

???

Lebowski....Yes both 2D and 3D

Ok then. In this case I'll redo the work to replace the GB and F languages and voices in V27 with the US (female, male) ones, apply my preferred spash screen and load the new version...

Thanks!

If you change the F with US female voice, the menu text stay's in French no ? by me it did :(

I redownloaded the rar file and it seems to work fine now

Just so I can follow here...
 

For those of you that have installed the new V27, if you go to the secret menu, select Perspective, does that turn on the Perspective option in the screen you get when you press the right knob? Guess I'm asking if selecting Perspective from the secret menu adds Perspective to the list of map view modes, or just puts you into perspective (& then you have to go back to the secret menu to get out of perspective (3d)? If it does add the new option (adds perspective to already existing North & Travel Direction), do you get all 3 modes in full screen & split screen? Thanks to anyone who took the time to read my whole ramblings here!! :rofl: :rolleyes:

I just want to thank everyone at x5world for uploading this file for us.

Just one question:
is it possible to change that wonderfull Gifextractor program to change the welcome screen in v27 ?

Thanxs in advance
p0kie

It would if I wouldn't replace the French menu, too :)

Actually, what I'm doing is
1 replace GB_F.CSF with USA_F.CSF
2 replace F_F.CSF with USA_M.CSF
3 replace both Lng_English and Lng_Francais with Lng_American
4 change the splash screen logo

No. 1 and 2 are easy since these are seperate files under \V_2\Voices. No. 4 can be done using GifExtractor, but no. 3 is kinda tricky since you've to replace the files within the navboot file itself. Replacing is not that big deal using XVI32 Hex Editor, but the language files contain a header with their own filenames in it, meaning just replacing Lng_Francais with the contents of Lng_American isn't enough.

So, for no. 3 I'm using ambishop's split.exe to get the sole Lng_American file. I create two copies of it named Lng_English and Lng_Francais and then I use XVI32 to change the filename of the corresponding headers. The last step before placing back the new files into the original navboot file is to correct the CRC24 checksum. This can be done using crc24.exe from the HackTheIBus forum.

That's about it...

Oups, doesn't that work any longer with the navboot file of V27? Anybody?

V-27 and street names
 

Hello all
I`ve downloaded the version 27, and I just want to now if the street names are correctly on the screen in "birdview" mode or ..... ?
If not, I`ll not install it in the car before this is OK. This equipment
are actually a navigation system to use in the traffic, so.... we need the street names.


Best regards
X-5Norway

Dear SealBeach740,

Once you enable perspective in the secret menu...

When you press the know and go to the menu item that normall would just select between two "pointing north and pointing the direction you are driving," now allows a third option "perpsective"

Estimated time of arrival working after V27 update?
 

Everything about the update to V27 has gone fine
Voices in English, Ventilator is OK
- except one thing...
The estimated time of arrival on the NAV screen stays set to 0:00.
Is there something that I need to reset to make this work again?

Thanks.

I dont think the estimated time of arrival works in birdview mode.

Is it me? The download link goes to 'Mega Upload'. How do I download V27 from it PLEASE?????

Richard

See post 48 in this thread

OK, I loaded V27 with a custom splash screen into my MkIV drive. Everything is functional, including ETA in Perspective Mode, with the exception that I can only get Perspective to work in Direction of Travel mode. I cannot seem to get it to toggle to having Perspective Mode in Pointing North mode. For anyone that has gotten that to work, please share your steps to make this happen.

I changed the splash screen with my own logo and the voices so it works well under V27

How are you able to chose Pointing North in Perspective Mode? :dunno:

Thanks, easy when you know how!!

Richard

I go to the secret menu, there I select perpective mode ON. Then go back to the normal nav mode hit the select button and I've got the 3 choices pointing nord, traveling and perpective. I select for example pointing nord and when it appears in 2D I hit the perspective view and it goes to 3D pointing nord. The same with traveling direction 2D I hit the perspective mode and it goes to 3D. When hit the button again change it back to 2D ......... All these things works in split and full screen

That's odd, because no matter what mode I'm in, when I hit "Perspective" it changes me to the Direction of Travel mode. :dunno:

Weird, I upgraded from the Beta to the V26 that I had changed with my own logo and the birdview activated like described on this bord ... and then to this V27. Perhaps this is the reason !ouch:

jeff im on stanby for your final x5world custom v27!!!!!!!!!

i'm having problems with Alcohol 120% - so far it's crashed my pc 3 times. It's a failry decent P4 2.8ghz with 512mb ram (hardly cutting edge i know but still should be able to cope with a simple burn..) i get a buffer overrun and full shut down fatal error.

any thing that can be selected in the program options or perhaps anotehr Image writing program. I've tried Clone CD which i used to use on the older updates a few years backm, but that doesn't work as the format is wrong.

Same here...everything works fine but will only allow Perspective Mode in Direction of Travel. I went straight from the BMW OS v26 to v27. To be honest, I think Perspective Mode is appropriate with Direction of Travel...makes sense. Very happy with the upgrade.

I'm not sure if others have noticed, but the speed of redraw for the 2D maps appears quicker with v27. Anybody else?

Thanks for making download of V27 available.

Greets
Nic

ETA working in Perspective mode
 

...not sure why - but it is working now.
I didn't do anything.

Hi!

If MEGAUPLOAD doesn't work or does not has accessible,then here for you a wide bandwidth link:

www.bmwsw.uw.hu

password: x5world

THX for publishing. :thumbup:

:rofl: Hello Dodi! :driver:

Elárulod a jelszót a Map Hungaryhoz?


Ui.: Jaa az x5world jó ehhez is... :locked::rofl:

Nem jelszó a gond. Más miatt nem fértél hozzá. DE MOST MÁR TÖLTHETED!!!!!

Csao

Köszönöm szépen.

skh!

Bármi gondod van BMW-vel kapcsolatban nyugodtan keress meg!

Üdv. Dodi

I am having a tough tim dowlnloading it(v27). Can someone walk me thru it? Please
Yhank You

Reason to "upgrade" from 3D toggle ?
 

What is the reason to upgrade from 3D toggle given that going into the hidden menu is more difficult ? Is it less buggy or does it include street names or some other benefit ?

thanks,
Seedar.

See post 115 for an alternate high-speed download link.

I went to V27 and after finding that I was unable to utilize the Perspective mode in Pointing North, I reverted back to my custom V26 version.

I see this update as a good move for those that have V26, didn't mess with the Beta and custom V26 hacks that we did, and want to have some form of Perspective mode that V27 offers.

Is there an official bulletin on the changes in v27?
Has anyone noticed any changes compared to v26 (apart from the perspective option, of course)?

There will be, I'm sure. However, V27 hasn't hit many US dealers yet, so the online TIS bulletin is probably some time away.

Here is what you get after enabling perspective
 

See photo

Downloaded and installed - all working fine. Thanks X5World!!

Installed v27, used it for a day. The more I use it, the more I realize perspective view is just a nice piece of eye candy. It really serves no purpose without street names.

Hey guys,

I just finished installing the new V27 software. And I found something...weird. I did a test run to show the new perspective view works, so I set a destination to get it going. After I done this, I found the cursor(car) MOVEs! It went through the routes that I was suppose to take, as if like I wanted to go for a test run...I was like...WOW! But it moves kind of slow though.

Just wanted to check if any of you guys ever seem this before? In the MkIV? Or I'm kind of like the last person to find out. :P

Good to see you found the demo mode - it has always been there though!

The method I've always used is thus:
- Set destination, but don't hit guidance
- Press and hold menu button for about 5 seconds, go back to main menu
- Go straight back to navigation and without changing anything, hit guidance

I've been able to do this since I've had the system (about 2 years now)'

Paul Martin
Australia

Poll: V27 Birdview Pointing North and/or Traveling Direction
 

Reading thru the posts so far I'm under the impression that for some birdview works in both modes (pointing north and traveling direction) whereas others are unable to set it to pointing north.

Yesterday I prepared my custom version based on V27 and in general I'm ready to load it, but since I've got no problems at all with the customized V26 (not the beta!) I'm not willing to do so if I loose a feature - especially that I don't know of any other advantages V27 might have over V26.

Since no one has found any special improvements in V27, I think it's no real use to upgrade...

So, who actually is able to use birdview in both modes with V27 and what version did you upgrade from?

TIA

V27 installed and operational.

Thanks X5World:thumbup: My dealership don't think they will get this for a couple of months so you've saved me a waiting game and a dealer visit! Ding-dang-do!

Well, I'm finally happy with the BMW satnav system now - the 3D is stable, plus ETA and Dynamic Routing fixed! So it's time for the next project - ipod tunes and Intravee! :)

Operational in both settings (i.e. birdview in pointing north and traveling direction)?

It's the same for me!

It seems that in prospective mode it's not possible to chose pointing north.
I also tried to select pointing north (and it comes in 2D p.n.) then selecting prospective it change in car direction.

I'm wishing that on the final version it will be possible to chose the 2
method for prospectiove view. That's why the refresh of the map,
both in 2D and Prospective mode, it's a little bit slow!

Bye

Ah! I been missing out on this feature...for 2 years! At least I know I can use it from now on! Thanx Paul! :rofl:

Thx a lot guys! I'm currently downloading, I'll tell you tonight if it worked well in my 02 320td Compact (MKIII upgraded to MKIV, currently v26).

See you,

Thomas

No, perspective just seems to operate in the Direction of Travel. I'm not concerned about this as I never use the North travel map view.

Hi,
can anyone confirm that the INFO and SELECT Buttons worked fine? I´ve had this problem until I´ve downgraded to v.25 and then to v.26 (mod.)
After that i must coded the MK4 new....
It´s worked fine, but I must know what now about these two Buttons. (I have radio BM24 and MK4)

best regards
Norbert

I updated mine this morning all works well I did not need to change birds eye view as mine was like this from previous version but to be safe I enabled it just in case and swathed back and forth from point north and birds eye. The only problem I have in the Nav setting car thinks it is a 7er and there are no details of my car i.e. reg number or chassis number. Do I need to get it re coded?

@X5 Sport
...was that also before you updated...with the "7´er" ?
Thats why I asked... pls test these two buttons. Which radio do you have?
N.

Are you able to activate birdview in pointing north and traveling direction mode, or does switching on perspective mode always take you back to traveling direction?

As for the other problem with X5 no longer being listed correctly (now showing 7 series and no data) I'm pretty sure that problem existed before. V27 is a regular update and it shouldn't switch the country coding. If I recall well, this "recoding needed" issue only started with V26.09A. Have you been using that version (09A)?

All done
It's working

Thank you !

Current Status: Poll: V27 Birdview Pointing North and/or Traveling Direction
 

That's the list so far.

V27 birdview pointing north and traveling direction:
moneyfor

V27 birdview traveling direction only:
vollgasfahrer, ucrewx5, phil47, mr. bmw, eaglesrest

unknown:
shoimin, chankla, daytonaviolet, dygital, 4444405, mogsyman, mr.jerry, navman, 55jwb, chankla, richard wale, godeacs06, jackay

Any additions/corrections?

I have been trying and I can only get perspective in Directional Travel mode and not Pointing North?? :tsk:

I got 2 views ... !!!! Pointing North and Travel Mode 3D ...

One Question ...
Where Can i change a new Route on 3D Birdview ? i dont see it to change to route?:-(

i'm another one for travelling direction only.

Do You Mean "me"? :D

nice easter egg :) tried it then. hoping it works out where my car is tomorrow lol

V27 birdview for traveling direction only.

7erAce

V27 replace voice English Fem to Dutch Fem
 

I want to install te V27 update, but how do i modify the update cd , before installing the update file?

text = english fem.
speech = dutch fem.

i have the program ultra iso the modify the cd.

thx,

Yes dealer recode I'm afraid. You may also notice that your ETA settings are broke. Try entering a journey from say Leeds- Horsham or something of a similiar distance while stationary. If the ETA is stuffed it will overestimate the journey time by up to 3X. A recode fixes it though.

Same for me.

X5PL

NEW FEATURE - with V27 the option to enter Poscode in address section. This works with 2006-1 Europe DVD. Was not possible in V26.

Thanks for a great website!

<3 <3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just did the upgrade and OMG... thanks!

It´s not a feature of v27, depends only from Map-DVD...

My nav only has 3d in travelling direction only.

It seems pretty stable so far although I've not been on a long journey yet!

What language options do you have at the moment? GB, F and D? If so, you could just replace the GB voice file with the NL one (this can be done just by renaming files under \V_2\VOICES\0506, see posting #94, too - http://www.xoutpost.com/111641-post94.html)

One difference I have noticed with v27 is that it doesn't mute the audio system when it gives instructions as it did with v26. It roughly halves the audio volume and gives the instruction over the top which seems to work well.

Thanks to everyone at X5World who has made v27 available.

thats a feature of the Bm53/54 radio. you may have found the update reset the navi volume settings. if the navi volume is full it mutes, < full it attenuates.

That may well depend on the type of Radio in your car.
I have a BM24 I think mute is all I will ever get!

PS guys did the upgrade on my Rover at lunch time after first embedding my Rover Logo

Any sign of the official release notes?

Edit Damn CotinaD beat me to it :-)
I had a Lotus MKI Cortina once, back seat caught fire due to a trapped cable :-(

hey man.. nice..I love the mk1s. Sorry to hear how yours ended up.

I have a Mk4 http://www.bucster.com/cortina/thumbnails.php?album=36

if your interested :)

Nice! I had a Mk4 as a company car years ago used to keep a bag of sand in the boot to keep the back properly weighted down

When I had the MK1 it was long before such new fangled gadgets as Digital Cameras and the Internut were about so I don't have any snaps.

and ICE was just that, I think the heater was an option :)

Perspective View Won't Work!!!
 

i did the upgrade this afternoon following the instructions to the letter then went into the service settings and set perspective to ON but the map did not change to 3d - any ideas.

thanks.

Yep you still need to choose it from the travel direction menu
Once enabled you should now have all three

Pointing north
Direction of Travel
Perspective view

did you try that?

where are these options???

the only option in service mode was perspective ON or OFF.

thanks.

found it!!!

works great.

thanks.

Wow!!!!
 

Works like a charm on my 2005 X5 3.0d!!! The perspective view is really awesome and the lack of road markings doesnt bother me as I use split screen!!! Thanks X5W, you guys ROCK!

Great it works :)

My birdview is functionnal ;) For travelling direction only (but that's what I prefer). What's new in this release?

See you

Thomas

Yes I did use the beta version and I do tend agree with the post above that was proberly the beta version that screwed it up. I rang my mate(BMW TECH) and told him what I had done and his response "What have you been downloading from the internet now " Also which was quite interesting, he did not know about the secret menu on the NAV but he did say he gets all that info out of the BMW Computer that plugs into the car.

Great, I got this working, but does anyone know how to get the "Traffic Information" to work.

That feature unfortunately isn't available at this time in the U.S. To get it requires a different radio module, and there are no broadcasts in the U.S. to take advantage of the capability even if you had that particular radio module installed. :tsk:

If someone can give me a better US based link other than megaupload I will be happy to host this for a while. Megaupload took over 30 min to download 38mb and then it said it completed successfully. I know this is at least a 120-140mb file.

We should get together and make this happen in the US!

JV

Check your PM for a link

v 27: 3 D only in Pointing Direction Mode ?
 

Hope it helps what I found out.

If car stands still, both modes are available in 3 D: travelling direction and pointing north.

A soon as car moves only pointing direction mode in 3 D is available

F.E.: Car stands still, 3 D pointing north works well, car moves and immediately 3 D North switches automatically to 3 D direction.

Is this the reason for different posts?

MFG SLIA

Got this working in my 04 330ci. Awesome!
Sounds like people are really digging into the firmware to make changes, how about making the radio text show more than ~10 characters? There's so much more room on the screen, why doesn't it use it?
This would be very useful for my ipod. Just a thought.

Another new thing i've noticed: when switching from 2d to 3d, the screen rotates, as if the camera was moving, instead of just instantly switching from one mode to the other.
Not sure if anyone else has noticed that.

It's the fact that you went down a version i.e. V26--> vT26.09A that put it into 7er mode. You would have had the same issue if you'd gone from V26--> v24, V26-->V25. There are UK users that have needed a recode without ever touching the beta version, but went back a version to get V26 with splash screen.

Don't want to labour the point but if you get it recoded then go V27--> V26 --> V27 with splash screen for example, then I suspect you'll be visiting the dealer again!

If Acura can make it work, BMW can make it work.

Faster download link for v27
 

As promised. A faster download link for people:

http://www.spoooln.com/downloadcontr...?dcid=81482694

I have it set at 5k downloads. I will check my bandwith usage at that point but I have a feeling I will be fine. :)

Hi!

If MEGAUPLOAD doesn't work or does not has accessible,then here for you a wide bandwidth link:

www.bmwsw.uw.hu

password: x5world

I have found that this works well for people based out of Europe. For US based people you might be better off using this link:

http://www.spoooln.com/downloadcontr...?dcid=81482694

Worked perfectly. Downloading the darn file took longer than the rest of the process.

A buddy of mine has a cooper S with Nav. Can I use the same cd to do his car and he will still have the mini logo at startup? I noticed when I got the new version of gif extractor there is a new option that says read "complicated" gifs. Once I checked that a Mini logo came up in the list. Does that mean there is a pointer in there to tell the CD image loader if its a mini or a bmw? Can he still use the same disc I have where I edited the navboot file to contain an M5 logo, or should I get a fresh disc? I want to make sure he doesn't end up with a Mini M5. ;)

I think you'll need to use the gifextractor program to swap the BMW logo with the Mini logo.

If you use the original V27 release (i.e. not one where the spash screen graphic has been changed), then it will work just fine on your buddy's MINI (assuming that his MINI has a newer DVD-based MKIV nav unit and not an older CD-based MKIII nav unit that is). I've unpdated my own 2005 MINI Cooper S with V27 (that was downloaded from the link given here on x5world) and it works just great. The MINI logo still displays just as it should. :thumbup:

I hope this helps some...

Is there something you have to do to make the Interstate shields appear? After updating, I get this instead: (sorry for the lousy focus)
http://fourohfour.info/images/nav-no...te-shields.jpg
...which wouldn't be so bad if it said I-84 instead of I84E.

Update complete on my 04 X5 and 04 M3. Everything works great! Thanks X5 World. I will be making a donation via. paypal this week.

Works like a charm. Thanks to everyone! 2006 X3.:thumbup:

They look just like the European/UK Motorway road symbols.

Is your nav defaulted back to Euro mode? Did you use the V26.09A Patch at all?

Looks like a dealer recode may be required.

All Works ,
All Perspectives Works ( 3 !! )

thank You

MK4/NAVI PRO/X5 4.8/NEW ROAD MAP 2006 EUROPE

I installed the V27, and have 2D and 3D pointing nord and travel :rofl: I updated from the beta that was updated with the normal V26 so that I kept the 3D view.

Ahhh help!!

I installed V.27 and it all appeared to go smoothly.

But now on the right half of my screen, instead of showing the Suburb, Street Name. It shows City (Sydney), Street Name.

Since I live in Sydney and never drive out of there, the former was much more useful information. Is there anyway I can get it back?

If not, am I just able to reinstall V.26 using my old CD?

Download v27
 

Per Gianni: puoi scaricarlo dal link presente poco più sopra in questo post!

For Gianni: you can downloadad v27 from the link found above on this post

My nav drive has always been in Euro mode and I still have the U.S. Interstate map symbols appearing on my nav screen.

I don't think so; I still have the "hey, watch the road, stupid!" screen. Never used 26.09A.

Well, I started poking around the older version threads (starting with v26) to see if anyone's had this problem before... (btw, why doesn't the nav system forum show up on the search page?)

In your first post back in the v26 thread, the 7th image, at the left edge, looks to be I-75 showing up similarly to my problem. Later in that thread, a photo showing the Interstate shields is posted. So... am I nuts, or did you have this same issue and not notice it? ;-)

I was thinking that it might be the map data, but wasn't 2005.2 current at the time? (EDIT: should have mentioned: I'm using 2005.2 now)

Does this version work with a MK III ? (Although I believe prespective is only available on MK IV) Would one be able to load it on a MK III ?