Not a reply, but a question.
How is the language for the text menus selected?
I modified the background colors for V32 and everything was OK, except for water colors. Fixed that and found that the menu for "INFO ON LOCATION" under
"INPUT DESTINATION" and the text under "PRODUCT INFORMATION" had changed to Italian (from US English).

another question if I may :D

will the NavTweak work on a Win 7 64-bit OS ?

Thanks

Yes

Wow, what a mission.
I finally got Navtweak to work and burned my disc, thanks to all the helpful ppl in this thread.
I went to load it in and as I had previously updated my system to V32 it said 'your software is up to date' and it wouldnt overwrite it with the new data.

Suggestions as to how to get my 'new' v32 into my system would be appreciated.

Dubs

The version number of your new version must be different to the version number already loaded, otherwise no load occurs.

(Standard procedure to protect flash memory from unnecessary write cycles.)

So set the version number accordingly

What he said, you need to change the version number.

Thanks for the speedy replies folks, I am trying to get this sorted.

I changed the name in the iso as you can see top left, is this correct or should i do it elsewhere?

Thanks

Dubs

No mate you need to change the version number in sw_rel.tbl file (you need a hex editor).

ccfj1

could you please take a screenshot and show where the version number is?

Is it here?

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u.../Capture-2.png

Drag and drop out of the iso, edit with a hex editor, then drop back in and save.

Yes mate thats iy change the last 2 digits so: 1001 becomes 1002, 1003, 1004 etc...

thanks :)

ooooh I'm close

Heres my hex, is it just the 0630 I change and if so what to please?

Thanks

Dubs

Thats for a mk3 mate, is that what you are modding??

If it is then mod the 63 to 64 (anything different really).

Also if it is the mk3 you are modding the OS for, make sure that its saved as a mode2/form1 image.

****it must be a mode2/form1*** for it work correctly in a mk3, do not put a mode1 disc image in the mk3 as it will break your drive.

nope
mk4 I believe

Dubs

Then you are editing the wrong file, thats for the mk3 only.

Have a look at the dir tree in this pic mate.

V2/RR/101/BMWC01S

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u.../Capture-2.png

Many thanks for the info I'll change it, burn it and HOPEFULLY finish.

Thanks again
Dubs

Well holy crap it worked!!
Thanks for the assistance today i could not have done it without you ccfj1 and KiwiJochen.

One more Q about your reply up the top, If I do more mods to the nav I would change the hex to 1002, then next time i do them 1003 etc?

Dubs

No problem, yes, you can go back down too, as long as the number is different to the one in use, then it's all gravy mate.

Hi guys, I'm trying to follow the poison instructions from the first page. I've got to the bit where I need to run Navspeak.exe. Downloaded the 64 bit GTK and associated libraries but the navspeak.exe file just will not run. Any ideas?

Windows 7 64 bit (which i suspect might be the problem!).
T

You need to install the correct version of the GTK, for win7 64, GTK 2.16.6 is the correct one (I think).

Hi all,
Are the navtweak and navspeak programs still available for download? I am getting a message saying not available.
many thanks

Yes they should be.

Here you go, Navspeak, navtweak2.6 and navspeak2.7

https://rapidshare.com/files/2792109274/nav-suite.rar

Missing DLL message when trying to install Navtweak
 

Hi,

This error message will appear if you try to install Navtweak before installing GTK+/WIN32 Runtime Environment

When installing the above, you will be given an option to install DLL's, just tick the box & the missing DLL problem will be resolved.

Please note I am a Windows user so I'm not sure if it will work for Apple.http://www.xoutpost.com/images/smilies/dunno.gif

See the post below for more detailed info regarding changing MKIV Splash Screens, programs required & instructions:

BMW OEM MkIV Navigation System firmware update - ZPOST

Hope this helps anyone who has encountered this issue :D

Bass Roll Off
 

Hi, this may sound like a noob question. :imnew:
Is this navtweak software able to turn off bass roll-off on a mkIII 16:9 nav on a 2004 bmw e46 coupe? or is this software a graphic editor only?
bass roll-off - the unit considerably lowers volume of lower frequencies/bass at 50% and above volume. I have spent over $500 on a aftermarket amp and sub and the system barely sounds like a $200 setup . The line out converter is pac-sni35 and is installed prior the harman kardon amplifier, so i guess that the bass roll-off problem is coming from the nav unit.
Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

The Nav computer has no control over the audio, all control is from either the radio module or the HK amp. If you mod the radio to obtain a pre-amp output it should solve your problem, but you will need another way to control the volume.

Bass Roll Off
 

How can i modify the radio unit? I heard that the original nav radio not only lowers the volume, it also cut's off frequencies lower than 40hz at high volume, so an audiocontrol lc2i line out converter wouldn't help with it's accubass feature. Originally in my harman kardon setup, there is a dedicated wires for subwoofer coming from the radio unit to HK amplifier then from HK amp to factory subwoofers. I tapped into the wires prior HK amp, took off the factory subwoofers, installed aftermarket amp and sub.
I was searching for an alternative and tho the Dynavin and it's clone look good, they both have technical issues, specially the sound quality is considerably worse than the original unit. Other aftermarket units like pioneer have huge advantage over sound quality and i would consider one, but they look much worse than the original when installed in the car.
If i could modify the original nav radio unit to stop it's factory setting of rolling off bass i'd be more than happy.

You need to pick up the audio signal pre-out stage, this has been discussed at length on this and other forums and is pretty straight forward, just do a google search for either "BM54 RCA" or "BM53 RCA"

No....

The nav unit does not, I repeat, does not have anything to do with the audio output (from the radio) to the speakers from the cd changer, radio or tape.

The nav unit provides a mono output for nav instruction into the radio ONLY.

The radio module detects when a nav instruction is being made and then switches internally to accept the nav input, it then mixes the nav input with the source output and you hear the nav instruction combined with the source (radio, tape or cd etc).

This is interrupt driven and while you can get a dip in volume (this is adjustable via the set menu BTW), it does not change or modify the freqs that are being passed by the radio module.

Cant help with this.

Correct, the HK amp accepts the audio output from the radio module as speaker level (and at full frequency).

It then gets input into the HK amp as front and rear.

The amp then chops up the signals (via filters) and then passes the correct freqs to the correct speakers, keeping the fronts and rears separate (as the fronts carry the phone and nav outputs (from the radio)).

The Sub out is chopped from the rears and amp'd, then passed to the small hk sub amp as mono and at full volume and with lower pass filtering.

The sub amp then uses the speed sensor info to control the volume of the sub in relation to the volume output via the hk amp and radio module.

OK, this should work.

Agreed, they are rubbish.

Again I agree.

I'm not saying you are wrong but, I dont remember this as happing on mine when I ran the speaker level out.

I run the OEM nav, I have a modded bm54 (you have the bm53 in the US), it has upgraded amps and RCA outputs, however I use the RCA outs to run my system.

I use an Intravee and Alpine DSP PXA-100 (ai-net) connected to my rockford fosgate amp, to fully control the audio output from audio source (ipod in my case).

It gives full control over all the speakers and freqs (as you would expect from a DSP), and it also allows full adjustment via the OEM screen.

See here [E46] Add an Alpine DSP to an e46 and have the OEM DSP menu [pic heavy] - The M3cutters - UK BMW M3 Group Forum

The DSP also allows a Sub to be used and I run the Kenwood stereo sub system, (enabled by the hk button up front).

I run my DSP in parametric mode as I can fine tune it perfectly, I have so much base, I hardly need to power the sub at all.

HTH

Bass Roll Off
 

Thank You ccfj1 for your time. This was what i needed :thumbup:

wow there is a real wealth of information in this thread! should have read this a long time ago....
anyway did anyone ever manage to get the 'generic' vdo software to run on a MK4 computer?

no, but what would be the point? the last mk4 software is rich in features.

cham soc tre em,tuong lai dat nuoc

Thee is heaps of things 'missing' that would be nice in on our BMW MK4 navigation units:

• multiple POIs displayed at all times
• auto day/night colour schemes (based on headlight status)
• fresh new interface
• possible Australian TMC service?
• possibly more... trying to find a MS5000 manual in English for the last software
• current street displayed while in Full Screen view
• street names displayed in perspective mode

Anyway just some thoughts....
Has anyone actually been able to 'hack' the OS of the BMW nav?
there are so many bits of text that get cut off and don't scroll. would be great if they scrolled, even just once.
Also would love to get the suburb names back for Split Screen, or have the suburbs displayed on the map instead of useless parks, etc....

MK3 Color Sets
 

Hello all,

After exhaustive searching, I now understand through trial and error that the MK3 cannot have colors edited, yet there are some alternate color sets out there. How was this done? Is it possible to extract "rom-col-x" file from navboot (MK4) and then save into usw_load for MK3?

I am trying desperately to get a monochrome orange look to my board monitor. any help is appreciated. This forum is awesome.

Hello, do you know how i can modificate an NAVI01, NAVI02 or NAVI03 ? Navtweak said "Unknown file format" for all files in the appropriate folder. :(

Hi, You cant, navtweak if for the mk3 and mk4 only, no other nav system is applicable.

Thank you for your sad message :( .. do you know how i can edit it?

No, sorry mate.