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NavTweak and NavSpeak it's a programs intended to change various things in 'navboot' and sound files.
NavTweak 2.6 (49 KB): http://rapidshare.com/files/8925524/navtweak.zip.html NavSpeak 1.0 (23 KB): http://rapidshare.com/files/8925664/navspeak.zip.html Both programs requires the GTK+/Win32 Runtime Environment (5.2 MB): http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net/ THE PROGRAMS PROVIDED “AS IS” WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK ! |
Nice job!! Very cool!
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Boy are we going to see some great custom screens!!
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Fantastic job Nomad!
I'm in the process of updating all my POI icons for smaller ones :) Well done! Paul Martin Australia |
Great work.Thanks for sharing.
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Great stuff! Looks like now I can finally fine tune my nav's display so that turns/crossing roads are exactly at the blue arrow's tip. I just need to edit romicon #86 (and maybe 23 more icons after that...) and raise/move the graphic symbol few pixels. Original picture has enough border to do this, so it's quick job with Photoshop.
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Now here is a program that really helps me changing my navigation system. Its neats and has everything. Pity we dont an emulator to test the changes...
But at the rate this is, one of this days... Congratulations, and thanks for making it and sharing... p0kie2004 |
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Can the Moderator make this software available from the X5 server ?
I am having difficulties in downloading from the rapidshare url .... Thanks |
I had problems with start of the program to me writes that the point of an input in procedure xml_setDoctypeDeclhadler is not found in library DLL xmlparse.dll
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Here is my contribution - a new sky :)
I have changed all my POI icons for smaller, nicer looking ones (I'll upload them here in a few days). They all seem to be working. One problem: How do you change the colours on the map? I've changed the colours in rom_col and it has no effect on my maps at all. I'm going to change colours in the others rom_col_X to see what happens. Has anyone had success with colour changes? Paul Martin Australia |
You're the man! :thumbup:
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Is there also a possibility to change the menu language with this program, I tried to place the dutch file renamed to english but I'll get an error when I do this.
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Interesting
- All the colours under rom_col through to rom_col_11 are identical (EDIT: Actually, they're not. There are three main 'themes' of colour - the blue, brown and the mini's green. All can be seen under 'colours for widescreen') - If I change the 'default map area' colour under col_rom, nothing happens (EDIT: See my later post for explanation) - If I change the 'default map area' colour under map colours/col_rom_1, SOME of the map background colours change (only when the BMW display colour scheme is BLUE) - If I change the 'default map area' colour under map colours/col_rom_3, SOME of the map background colours change (only when the BMW display colour scheme is BROWN) I still can't work out how to change the colour of the main road & freeway labels. On my map they're either Black on Yellow or White on Blue. I would like to change them to Yellow on Green & Blue on White. In the end this is just all a bit of fun (and an enormous waste of time!) but if I share what I've discovered so far, hopefully others will beat me to it! :) Again, great program Nomad. I've attached a zip of my POIs, including my base PSD file. It is a WMV - change the extension to ZIP once downloaded. Paul Martin Australia |
Very cool! :thumbup:
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Can this programme be used to change the color scheme of the main menu?
Would love to have something different from brown or blue! |
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So far, I believe that...
- rom_col_1 is for the blue colour scheme, and - rom_col_3 is for the brown colour scheme. - ALL 12 colour profiles are look similar, except for the colours under the 'colours for widescreen' section. I haven't tested this out more as I've got far too much real work to do at the moment. In a few months I will have a good fiddle though :) I guess this means that we could in theory have a 'night mode'. If we made the rom_col_1 the day mode and rom_col_3 the night mode, switching between the two would mean changing the Colour Setting in the Set Menu. It almost looks too easy! (which means it could be...) What would be nice (Dear nomad, oh guru, if you're listening :)) is if we could have some 'preview' images which display next to the colour changing window so that we had a rough idea of what exactly we were changing. Some of the names aren't exactly obvious! Paul Martin Australia |
Used profile number depends on current color scheme, day/night switch (probably on car model and split screen option). I have no clear formula.
I have only a name of each color item. It's not possible to make a preview without the information on how each item used by the system. |
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I'm sure people are going to have some fun with that program of yours. I think in future I'm going to switch to CD-RWs! One way of testing what does what is by changing EVERY colour in a given profile to the SAME colour, but make each profiles' colour different to the next profile. Although I suspect the entire screen will be one colour, which would make navigating the menus impossible - but you never know... Paul Martin Australia |
Trying to download the programme but getting the message 'Network session invalid' - any advice?
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i'd like to change the minour road text into "not visible", they're disturbing in Birdview. because they allways appear where crossing two roads. That's unbelieveable... why they're coud'nt appear on all the other space where's no crossing...
:confused: So i changed the "minour road text" from "black" into "T" (hope means "transparent"). From all colour shemes, but no difference. I delete the white icon for minour roads, that's working. But i still have the text there without icon. It's even better without the big icon now, but still it's not perfect. perhaps someone have a solution on his mind. :) |
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I'll have another update tomorrow:
I'm working on new 'car icons' for both the plan view and perspective. A few things I don't like about the existing icon - they're just too big! - in plan view the shadow rotates with the icon (looks ridiculous) - in perspective view it looks completely different to plan view (grey/silver) I've attached two samples (will test them tomorrow and post photos on screen). There are 24 images for each type, 15 degrees apart. Paul Martin Australia |
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I've been fiddling a little more.
I changed the colours in the following sections to see how it changed on the screen. Within each rom_col_x section I alternated only 2 colours. rom_col - red & yellow rom_col_1 - blue & green rom_col_3 - black & white This is what I have determined so far:
There are a few exceptions (I haven't found them yet)
These must all lie elsewhere. What this means
I've attached some images of the Frankenstein screens! EDIT: I didn't think to switch the car's lights on/off to see if there was a hidden day/night switch. Maybe... Paul Martin Australia |
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Oh...
...here are my updated 'car icons' for anyone that may want them. The images are zipped - the ZIP file changed to a WMV file (just revert the extension and unzip). Enjoy! Paul Martin Australia |
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Unfortunately, I don't have a 3D program to make the perspective version a true torus. It still works well and it is much easier to see the roads beneath them than the old icons allowed. I felt they were just too bulky. Paul Martin Australia www.paulnika.com |
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Thanks for the heads-up.
I didn't mean to embed them. My apologies. Nor did I mean to embed the ICC profiles into the following images, but I couldn't be bothered resaving all 48 images again since reading your post. Here are my improved (and probably final) versions. Once again, rename it from car.wmv to car.zip It only makes a difference to the file size, not the display or function of the Navigation Computer as far as I can see. They update instantly. Paul Martin Australia |
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Just been playing around a bit and have created a rather natty green version of the OS. But I have noticed the following: Colors for Widescreen: controls all colours to change the OS 'look' By changing all the browns in 'rom_col_3', I have acieved a modified OS without affecting any map colours. Equally rom_col_3 only changes the colors in split screen mode - not in full screen:mad: Any one know where the full screen colors are hidden? |
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There appear to be FOUR colour schemes possible on the BMW Mk-IV DVD System. Changing the colours in them affects everything (main menu, phone menu, etc) Colour Set 1 Split rom_col_1 Fullscreen rom_col_10 (not yet confirmed, but it can't be any of the others as I've ruled them out) Colour Set 2 Split rom_col_3 Fullscreen rom_col_2 Still yet to find - colour for text labels for highway icons, streets, parks, lakes, etc - colour for My guess is that these are in rom_col_10 More testing. I've already created a darker version of the 'Brown Theme' - including the map & main menus :) It is still in the testing stage. Attached are photos - same exposure, same brightness settings. Paul Martin Australia |
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Each 'rom_col' file completely defines ALL colors used by the system at the moment. System can't work with two or more profiles simultaneously. |
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I have no idea where: - Colour Set 1's fullscreen colours are set (it's not rom_col_10 either) - the colour for the N & compass arrow resides - the colour of the sky 'haze' in perspective resides. - the colour for the text of roads, lakes, parks, street signs, etc I've changed EVERY colour in EVERY colour set and nothing seems to change them... This is, of course, in the following NAVBOOT file V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S\app_sw\ The setting for these colours may reside somewhere else! Paul Martin Australia |
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Colour set 1 fullscreen - 'rom_col' Colour set 1 splitscreen - 'rom_col_1' Colour set 2 fullscreen - 'rom_col_2' Colour set 2 splitscreen - 'rom_col_3' You can try to change text color by altering all white (or even all) palette entries to something else. |
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UPDATE - I've finished my modified 'Colour Set 2' with much darker browns. I've left the hightlighted colour the same bright orange with good effect. (see pics) - The colour for the 'haze' is actually taken from the colour of the last line of the sky jpeg. I inverted a 'test' image - see attached. - I still have no idea about the North N & arrow, text colour on the map itself... That's the end to my modding (until someone else finds the location of the colours I can't change). :) The dark brown scheme looks great at night and doesn't require me dimming the interior lights to be comfortable on the eyes. Of course when you do dim the interior lights it is very dark indeed. :thumbup: Paul Martin Australia www.paulnika.com |
Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you get the nav to have the angled view like you're behind it and following the marker?
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I've been trying to alter the navboot file so that the system shows dutch texts. See post http://www.xoutpost.com/152693-post114.html
No luck yet, but already had two stuck disks in my nav drive. First one got out with JV's "ignition-off/on-run-for-the-eject-button" trick. http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-...ion-drive.html Second one wouldn't come out. It's out now, here's how: opened the lid of the nav drive unscrewed 4 screws of drive mechanism unplugged little 4 wire plug to motor powered motor with 2 AA batteries Voila, ejected disk. Basically, its the lazy version of JV's trick #3. |
Thanks for this great NAV tweak software ! I've also created a custom colour. A nice "i-drive like" greenish colour scheme. The problem I have is that the NAV wont take the upgrade since my NAV is already running the latest version.
I'm reluctant to go back a version and then load my modified version as this will switch my USA NAV coded MKIV back to the Euro mode. It causes issues with BMW Assist when I do that. Is there anyway to get round this, and force the MKIV to load the modified V27.1 onto a existing V27.1 ? Thanks, Adrian |
Hey Paul, why not make an icon that looks like an X5? instead of the bmw's arrow with a circle?
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I might do something like that in the future. Paul Martin Australia |
Great stuff. I created my own custom colour. Its sort of like "a british racing green affair" .... All worked great using NAV Tweak. Also updated the lng_rel.tbl and sw_rel.tbl to "27.2" so that my USA coded NAV wouldn't revert back to Euro uncoded mode !!
Attached is some snaps - sorry about the quality, but my digital camera is pretty dreadful .... http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...1/DSC00371.JPG http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...1/DSC00369.JPG http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-...1/DSC00368.JPG |
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I used a free HEX editor for Windows (HHD HEX EDITOR).
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/Products/...itor-free.html First 4 bytes in each file looks like '0710' (HEX: 0x30 0x37 0x31 0x30). It's the software version number. Changed it to '0720' (HEX 0x30 0x37 0x32 0x30). I also modified the navboot file using gifextractor, and changed the header text to reflect the new firmware revision. |
I was playing around with this some more and BMW have already included a alternative Colour Set within the existing navboot. Perhaps this one was used in a prior release of the firmware prior to my knowledge. Its actually a bit similar to the green one I made above .... perhaps a bit lighter and easier on the eyes. I am sure they had a whole group of folks working on the most optimum colours !
In any case, you can find it in "colours for widescreen" rom_col_8 or rom_col_9. I copied this over to rom_col_ 1 to replace the blue split screen colour set ... Navtweak is a great program !!! :-) |
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Yes ... I thought I had seen those colours before .... thanks for the info !
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Just the ones in the 101 folder
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Many Thanks, Andy. |
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They are described as 'City Centre', but are not really 'City' as they can be placed almost in the middle of nowhere! It’s actually the centre of any place that can be accessed from the ‘City’ field on the destination input screen.
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ah, ok. i never really payed too much attention to
my nav screen; for, i don't really travel that often. thanks! |
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Blimey that seems like a very long winded way! Surely there must be a way to rename the files or maybe it's easier to get the navboot to use alternative rom_col_x files - so, for example, colour scheme 2 uses rom_col_8 and rom_col_9 in place of rom_col_2 and rom_col_3. The green mini colours rather than the dull brown????
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Hi Nomad,
really excellent program. Use is absolut intuitively. :thumbup: But there is one function I miss. It would be really helpful to have a fuction to save already embedded icons to the hard disk in order to modify existing icons much faster. Is it easy to implement this function? Kindest regards, Matt |
You can obtain this same icons from DVD /ICONS/RR/ for example.
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Thanx Lupito,
thats true for the POI icons. I meant also icons/pictures like traffic issues, position markers for the car and all the rest I can exchange with the program created by Nomad. The program gif_extractor has the possibility to save embedded pictures like the splahscreen to the hard disk. In my opinion would be the same function in the navTweak-program very helpful. Ciao Matt |
Ok so I decided that changing the colours one at a time wasn't such a big deal after all and now I have the Mini's "Green" colour scheme as my colour set 2 replacing the terrible brown!:)
I took apw2607 advice and opened two copies of Navtweak and copied the rom_col_8 colours into rom_col_2 and the rom_col_9 colours into rom_col_3 it didn't take that long and I'm pleased with the results. It just means that I will have to repeat the process for future software upgrades!:rolleyes: This Navtweak program is excellent and replacing the splash logo with it as opposed to the Gif extractor means all TMC warning symbols remain visable.:thumbup: My Landrover Logo is 37kb and I still have all symbols working! And...... for surfer_matt I'm sure you can save these warning images to your hard drive with Navtweak.....Just right click the line with the image you want to save and it will automatically name the file as it appears in the navboot. I haven't tried editing one and replacing it but I'm sure this can be achieved. Thanks as always for everyones input! Andy. |
Thanx Ajay for that hint. :thumbup:
You're absolutely right. I don't know why I didn't saw this before. :tsk: Regards Matt |
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I too have the MK4 in my Range Rover - Do I understand you right? have you managed to get your start up screen working ok with TMC symbols? Next step- All we need to do now is get the off road function on to the main menu! |
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As I wanted to replace the colour scheme 2 from brown to green I thought I would try replacing the Logo in a clean copy of V27.1 with the Navtweak program at the same time. Having created a new V27.1 with LR logo and green colour scheme 2, I downgraded to V26 and then upgraded back to this new V27.1 Having checked the TMC list it appears all the missing symbols are now visable so I'm very pleased. Email me if you want the new navboot file:thumbup: I'm not so bothered about the off road feature but I do want to see the suburbs return to the text when in split screen:mad: Andy. |
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I am not going to downgrade to V26_hacked as I don't want the issue of "you have invalidated your warranty SIR" out of the dealer if I have future probs (then know I have 27.1 on) so the issue of missing villages and suburbs is now a major problem. Can I urge you to phone BMW(UK) on their freefone number - 0800 325 600 and log it with them as an issue - they were extremely helpful and understood my complaint, but said they hadn't heard any problems from anyone else. Nor could they tell me if/when a V28 was due out. Cheers, Mark. |
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I Have kept v26 running as it seems to have better area identification. I have also put together a custom Green scheme which works very well. I have put in a start up logo and no problems - thanks for the tip - all TMC symbols are working fine:thumbup: - just hope there are no other hidden issues with using a larger GIF! Rob |
Anyone want to do the whole X5world community a favor and change the icon to an actual X5 and implant into the OS?
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Hello Nomad,
I have a question. I tried to extract data/images out of the navboot from the current OS MO5712 for MS5700 (3D map) distributed by VDO to use embedded images in the BMW Navi SW. The BMW Navi SW should be only a modification of the VDO OS. But Navtweak only reads/displays the part "Modules". Is it possible that Navtweak displays the information regarding "Modules" but isn't capable to show existing "Images"? Or is it the case that this navboot includes no images, because otherwise Navtweak would have they displayed? If you need the navboot to answer my question I can send it to you by email. Kind regards, Matthias |
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Hi Nomad,
there it is - the link to the VDO MO5712 navboot http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1QRVANZP The guy who extracted this file for me, told me that there are about 10 navboot files on the VDO OS CD - all of the same size of approx. 3 MB. Hopefully you can find out, if there are images included within this navboot and how they are extractable. Kind regards, Matthias |
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Hi !
If someone is interested I've make this icon as the car image. All comment are welcome! I think i must also design icon mask for a correct display them into a Nav. I'm a X5 owners, but I dont have find any complete series of X5 in 3d and I dont be able to use 3d software. Bye ! |
Hi Nomad,
did you find out if there are extractable images in the VDO OS navboot included? Thanx Matt |
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do we know something about the colors now? :rolleyes:
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Does anybody have the Navtweak file? I tried the link at the beginning and it says it reached the limit for free downloads. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't seem to get it. Also, does the GTK/Win32 environment affect anything on my pc? I always get nervous when software mentions enviroment. Thanks.
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NavTweak 2.0 released. First post updated.
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Can't get that link to V2 to work at all, anyone else got it to work?
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Seems to work fine Richard. :) I chose the second server in the list that rapidshare offerred !
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I paid for 1 month, got it now. Thanks! :)
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Hello !
Look here what i ´ve found: http://www.yopia.net I want it in my MK4 :) How can we do it`?:thumbup: Gretz from Hamburg / Germany Michael |
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Hello Nomad,
Yes on the website, but i see they want money..... :mad: |
Hi Nomad,
great work, thanks! :thumbup: Stefan |
Hello!
If i want to change some icons in v27.1 how can i make it? Downgrade to v26 change there the icons and upgrade to v27.1? Many questions.... ThX a lot for helping me.... Michael |
No. You don't have to downgrade.
If you would have read this post carefully, you would have found your answer - somebody explaint it in this post on page 5. Shortly: If you have a Hex-editor program like Ultraedit you can upgrade the application version from 0710 to 0720 in 2 files: lng_rel.tbl and sw_rel.tbl. The Nav-Computer than will recognize the software as new and will install it. Kind regard. Matthias |
Are there any instructions for using the software. I'm computer literate, but don't know where to start.
Do i edit an iso image? Is there a how to? Thanks in advance |
You should get the whole OS as an iso. Pick the "navboot" file out of this iso and change it. Put it back and burn the (changed) iso. Then install it to your nav computer.
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thanks for that, got it!
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someone change the main icon to an actual X5, do so and be a hero to all on X5world!
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Does anyone have any funky colour schemes they want to post?
I am just trying it out for the first time but am having trouble working out which colours in the "colours for Widescreen" are for which part of the screen! Jason |
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Personally, I don't think a block of black X3/X5 as an icon will look as good as the transparant circle - however here's the main icon you'll need based on my black X3. Take pictures whilst car is under blue sky standing on step-ladders to get angle right, then use tool like iconworkshop from Axilas to import, reduce, touch-up and set background to transparent. You only need do 12 pictures at varying angles, then copy (flip) left to right to create full set of 24. |
NavTweak 2.2 released. Fixed minor bug in font editor.
http://rapidshare.de/files/33546061/navtweak2.zip.html |
Hi Guys,
I would like to share with you a new version for the main icon. I call it angle wing - it will grant you a perfect view on all things in front of you. :) I already tested / joined it the last thousand km. The shown 3 icons are suficient to cover all possible cases, if you are using mode perspective not pointing north. Just use navtweak to exchange the original icons and join. :thumbup: Kind regards, Matthias http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1241/icon1103sj5.png http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3919/icon1113sw5.png http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1020/icon1333gh0.png |
Hi Guys!
Big thanks to everyone on here with all this BMW nav stuff! Got a mini myself, and I have updated the software hopefully will have Chris-H's speed cam dvd working later aswell. I'm now having a go at this navtweak to try and change the driving icon, I've made a little mini (http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...er/ccp_000.png), and changed it for the orignal icon but when I save the new file the output is a 11.5mb file instead of something similar to the one before at 295.4mb mdf file.. Do I need some software to convert it because Alcohol 120% wont pick up the 11.5mb new file...? |
Thanks to Matt I think I've got it sorted now, will post a pic tomorrow if it works :)
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M1tch - very cool, you might want to adjust the angle though - looks like you're pulling wheelies .... !!!
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gonna try this one on the normal view with map in travel direction, then I'll try taking a pic at a different angle for the perspective view. Is that the new sky that you have put on yours, I added it on navtweak but the file size was a lot bigger so didnt know if it could handle it.
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well it worked :) mini on the nav screen, well chuffed with it.
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Uh, thats a big mini.
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Hi M1TCH,
I too have a MINI and would love to replace the vehicle icon in my own system with the one you're using. Thus, would you be willing to provide a bit more details on how you went about doing this using NavTweak? Also, did you create MINI vehicle icons for all of the different cusor positions/rotations? If so, would you care to share them with everyone (as that would save me the time of having to do it when someone else already took the initiative)? Thanks! -- MIKE |
Yeah sure mike! Just gotta try and remember how to do it now lol. I was helped over pm quite a bit by suffer_matt aswell. I didnt do the different angles but will do next time, it only switches back to the arrow very rarely when at real slow speed turning tight save on a driveway etc. I'll start on a perspective one maybe this weekend.
Facelift - it looks better in life, and the front of the mini is actually at the turning as you reach it rather than way off like before with the arrow. |
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Sweet! Thanks for the info. I think I have it all figured out now.
BTW, I've just about completed a set of all the rotated images of the MINI (all 23 of them!). I went ahead and used your image as the starting point since my MINI is also blue (Hyper blue actually). I'm only going to bother with the 2D vehicle icon at the moment and just leve the 3D perspective one as it is. Thanks again for your help. -- MIKE |
Hmm... I can't seem to make it work. I took the latest v28 image, extracted out the navboot file from the 0101\BMWC01S\app_sw folder, modified it using NavTweak v2.2, and then burned the modified image file back to disc using UltraISO. When I put the CD into the nav computer it simply tells me that an incorrect CD/DVD is inserted and spits it back out. I've tried a couple of different variations, but they all do the same thing.
I modified the navboot file with a better looking sky image, new POIs, and the MINI vehicle icons (all taken from this thread). The mods to the navboot file all look fine to me. Is there something else that I need to do to the navboot file to make it work properly (like set the date/time stamp, etc.)? Or, perhaps this is simply a problem with the v28 disk image I have. Maybe I'll try the v27.1 image instead (since I'm currently only running v27). Weird... |
Tried v27.1 with just the modified vehicle icons, but I still get the same incorrect CD/DVD inserted error message when I try to update the nav computer. Thus, I'm stumped.
The only ideas I have left are: 1) Changing the CD-R type (I'm using Memorex and buring them at the lowest speed setting). 2) Something's wrong with NavTweak 2.2 program. Maybe I'll try going back to version 1 and see what happens. 3) Something's wrong with the vehicle icon graphics. I'm using Windows paint to save them as PNG files. However, I don't know if they're in a "PNG-24" format or not??? Also, I have the background color set to plain white (255, 255, 255). Is that the color it needs to be for the transparency? Other than that, I just dunno. Any help would be appreciated. |
I had the same problem. Changed the CD-R and everything was fine.
Btw: Transparency is defined by a mask, not color. |
Sorry I've missed something when trying to remember how I did it.
I used IconWorkshop to make the background transparent then click file > export > PNG with Transparency. as for the problems with the cd software actually loading I'm confused too, posibly the cdr as everything youve said you have done is correct. |
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i don't understand your question... you draw something and lay a mask on it which is transparency somewhere.
1.) the image 2.) the mask - white means transparency (not masked), black not (masked). gray is somewhere between. 3.) the mask on the image. the mask is colored red instead of black and white now. parts which are masked appear red. where the mask is transparent, the image below appear in normal colors. in the shadow you can see, a little bit from the black background appear. because the mask is gray there (pic 2) 4.) png image combined with mask in front of a white background. in the nav system, the image is shown in front of the map of course. http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/5281/grafik2bt3.jpg hope you asked something like this... :rolleyes: |
I didnt really understand that either. dont worry. I wondered if there was a tool on photoshop to create transparency instead of having to use IconWorkshop to make the icon.
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anyone made some X5 transparancies out of the icon an earlier poster attached?
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need a better picture of one really, to make one, had a go but not happy with it because I'm not sure of how the x5 looks from the rear. it come out too pixelly.
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alright I did it, I made an 3 X5 icons for perspective mode-travel direction, and I changed the destination icon to a garden gnome!
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lol got a nav screen shot of that?
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I just downloaded Navtweak. I would first like to know if anyone tried to change the language on the Nav OS from French to Spanish, or German to Spanish. If they have or if anyone knows how I can do this could you please let me know? Thanks Jay
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Hi guys,
Okay... I finally got things working. It was indeed the Memorex CD-R's that I was using. I switched over to using some TDK's and they are working just fine for me. I went ahead and halved the size of the MINI icon, created all 24 of the 15 degree rotated images required, and then loaded them up using the V28 update. It looks great! I guess that the next step would be to create a set of 3D MINI vehicle icons to use. However, I'm not in any real rush to do so since the 3D perspective mode is pretty useless to me without the street/road names being displayed on the map as they are in the 2D mode. Thanks for all of your help. BTW, I lOvE the destination gnome. What a hoot!!! |
For 3d perspective mode you really only need 3 icons. I added a custom sky shot, it looks fricking great!
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Hi lionkang,
jes, thats true - for perspective view. :thumbup: You need the three icons shown on page 10 of this thread. Matt |
you only really need 3 for the normal mode, who uses pointing north? its pointless.
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do somebody except me try with the colors? :confused:
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Could someone post a working link to NavTweak? The 'rapidshare' links at the top of this thread don't seem to work anymore. Thanks!
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OK, I have finally gotten NAVTWEAK to work and have looked at the program. What I wanted with this program is to change the default language selection from English-French-German to English-Spanish-German. I am not very good with this program, could anyone tell me how to go about this? I have downloaded V28 and would like to change the language defaults before I upgrade.
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AnyOne, how to get 3d prespectivce view on nav screen ver28.?
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Dude it doesn't matter if it is 27, 27.1 or 28! To activate the perspective view You just have to go to the hiden settings menu and switch on perspektive. This is exactly described in the V27 and/or V28 threads;)
For Your comfort -> Enter the settings menu, press and hold the Menu button for 10 seconds, then scroll down to the bottom of the hiden menu, sellect Perspective and then Yes. Timiboy |
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I have edited my navboot with navtweak and the boot picture is fine. But it seems to me that allthough I have edited some POI icons I still see the original icons:rolleyes: What coud that be? Timiboy |
With a map disk of 2006-1 or later, the icons are on the map disk, these override the ones in the Nav software.
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So can the map disc image be modified with custom icons like the nav software can? i.e. If the POI icons are just in a sub-folder on the disc, we should be able to just swap them out with new ones quite easily.
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Damn:rolleyes: So why was that not mentioned here before!?Who is using older maps then 2006!? We will then surely need to manipulate the icons on the map DVD if possible:) So would it be right to say that using navtweak You can only modify boot logo and the car logo? So how did the guy with the dwarf do?
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I just want to thx everybody for fast help
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gotcha :) I will make an ULTRAISO IMage from the maps now and try to exchange the POI icons :) I will report if I succeed;) Timiboy |
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the first try was not successfull:rolleyes: The Navi is saying wrong CD/DVD. IS there anythinh special I have to take care off, when making an ULTRAISO image and then exchanging PNG files? Timiboy |
The Nav is VERY sensitive to the way the DVD is burnt. Most people find that using a good quality DVD, like Verbatim, burnt at the slowest speed you can will work. However, if I do that with my DVD burner it does not work, I have to burn at 16x otherwise it won't work. Bottom line is, it's trial and error - to make sure you can burn the disk, try making a direct copy of a known working disk first.
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Hi Guys,
Just so eveyone knows... I've posted a thread over on the North American Motoring forums with a how-to article on updating the vehicle icon in the MINI Cooper. Due credit was given to nomad for his most excellent NavTweak program and also to M1TCH for use of his wonderful MINI icon. Thanks again for everyone's help and keep up the great work! Drive Your Very Own MINI On The Factory Nav Screen! |
Nomad and all that contributed firstly thanks for an excellent interface we have come a long way in a short period of time after years of starring at the old Logo :) and in my Rover sorry guys but BMW just did not look right ;)
Now a chalenge to take it to the next level Can Navtweak do more? I posted this http://www.xoutpost.com/showpost.php?...8&postcount=16 Could NavTweak be enhanced to create or alter specific files on the firmware CD to recode Monochrome to Colour? would that be really really useful to people out there, I think so Then the ultimate question, that would be useful to MG Rover and maybe Land/Range Rover owners? There are lots and lots or Rover MK3 units out there with locked firmware (a crippled version 17). If you try to use a BMW update CD it spits them out. I guess the boot loader or something on the CD does not match, I can get hold of a Rover firmware CD and you have no idea how incredibly useful it would be if we could upgrade Rover units to turn them back into the BMW MK3 equivalents they probably once were. |
For the life of me I cant remmeber how to do this ! My v27.1 is modded with a different screen.
How do we change the startup screen again with NavTweak ? Ive looked through this whole thread and cant find any reference to it ! I've looked through the bitmaps of the navboot but cant seem to find it Help ?? Thnx ! |
Try looking at "rom_bitmaps", not "rom_icons".
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V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S\app_sw And the details I have are for the replacement image : width 400 x height 234 x depth 8bit single frame GIF @ 92dpi Any problem with a 70k GIF inserted in ? Mine seems to be 400x234@256 colours(8bit) - but only 72dpi |
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heyy guys i need your help....does anyone know that bmw logo that comes upon the nav screen when u open your door...how can i change that..thankz guys:thumbup:
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If anyone could send me a message or reply to me at [email protected], and send me info on how to even get started doing this. I dont know where to find the navboot file or what to do after mods have been done. Please Help! I really want to make some changes to my system!
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Nevermind I figured it out, but heres a few questions I have... one is: how can I add a text to the main menu? I want to install a carputer and would love a button in there to access it... Let me know if you can help me!
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I am also working on converting the BMW MK4, back to a VDO Dayton. Odia. |
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When you upgrade your system with a new menu text will things apaear that arent installed on your car. such as will Television appear if my car doesn't have it or does it only display what you have in your car?
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Which VDO system will it be? And you're hacking the V28-firmware with OS9000-tooling? I'm very interrested in this part as well, as I don't like the current MK-IV system at all! The navtweak programm is nice however it does not really alter the functions of this system... My reference is a Garmin Streetpilot 2610 which I used in my previous car! I just got my new car (Z4) with the build in satnav pro.... I know now that the Garmin is way superiour compared to the MK-IV system! Especially the Graphical representation, routing and usability! I have a big list of thing I would see different in my current Z4 satnav system. Maybee I could do it myself..... or together with others owners! Cheers, Rene |
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All of the POI icons are now stored on the DVD (as GIF images) in the following locations (note that this is for the 2007-1 NA DVD): ...\TPD\nccBus_na_20060613\ICONS\N ...\TPD\nccBus_na_20060613\ICONS\R Thus, all one needs to do is simply replace the images (retaining the same file name, file format, and image size, of course) with the new ones that they want to use instead (e.g. smaller colored versions, etc.). I'm not sure what the difference is between the "N" and "R" folders as they appear to contain the exact same images/icons. I hope this helps some. |
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It would be nice if we could get at the icons and color sets in that file as I'd like to update BMW/MINI's color set and 3D arrow cursor with the ones from the VDO Dayton firmware (as they look better IMHO). I don't have access to the MS5700 firmware, but there is public access to the most recent MS5200 firmware (which appears to have all of the new goodies from the MS5700) on the VDO Dayton web site here: Application Software Update PC 5200 Version 2.50 (48.9 MB) Maybe nomad would be willing to have a look at it in his spare time? :thumbup: I hope this helps some. -- MIKE EDIT: BTW, it appears that in this new firmware update for the MS5200, VDO Dayton has enabled street names to show up in 3D perspective view. I sure hope that they do this for the BMW/MINI firmware as well. This is the one thing that stops me from using the 3D view. More details here: New Features In Version 2.50 Also, for those who don't already know... VDO Dayton is the company that builds the nav computer for BMW/MINI. The BMW/MINI MKIV is based upon the VDO Dayton MS5500 Monitor Navigation system I believe. Thus, it should (in theory) be possible to adapt the VDO Dayton firmware to run on the BMW/MINI On-Board Navigation system. This would be pretty cool since the VDO Dayton firmware has a lot of nice features that aren't available in the BMW/MINI version like Via Points, Saved Routes, the ability to display up to 5 icon types on the map at any one time, warning sounds when near a specified POI, etc., etc. |
Just for the record, the BMW/MINI SatNav OS is produced by Siemens VDO BV (Dutch). Search their site...
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Same company isn't it???
I thought that VDO Dayton was a subsidiary of VDO Siemens. If you search the VDO Dayton site they also claim that they make the OEM nav system for BMW. EDIT: Yes, just as I suspected, VDO Dayton is a brand name of VDO Siemens. See here: http://www.siemensvdo.com/press/rele...0411_002_e.htm So technically I was correct (but then again, so were you)! :nanana: |
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Would you mind sharing the rom_col_2 & rom_col_3 modules with your really nice nighttime brown color set up with the rest of us here? I'd also like to have a nighttime color set and there's no point in me trying to reinvent the wheel since you've already done the work. The exported rom_col_2 & rom_col_3 modules would be very small in size and so they should be quite easy for you to share. Thanks! -- MIKE |
Dont' know if this information is on topic but i've been working on how to listen the voice Data of the navi firmware on my PC.
I read the Sound Files in csf Format with a text editor. On the first Line you can read about oki MSM6585. I Found this is an sound device (IC) for Voice outputs. It's working with ADPCM Formats at various bit rates. So i used my Sound Editor (Adobe Audition, other will work too if able to open ADPCM files) to open an renamed csf File. You'll have to rename it to*.vox instead of *.csf and open as *.vox File. Adobe Audition is asking about the sample format during opening of the file. If you select 16000 as sample frequency you can listen to the opened audio file like on your navi. Perhaps it is possible to edit these sound files to get own voices. I will try to find out more an will post my results here. As far as i can say there are two different alert sound signals in the files. I'm still dreaming on starting an sound when approaching to a speed trap :o) If only i could trigger one of these two sounds somehow. |
If it already knew, using 16000 can listen to the correct speed to the voice, but the commands that contain more than one word are cut and points cannot be listened, it can be due to the fact that when it calls to this command or to this minute and exact second in the one that is the command, a parameter passes to know that length has in time to reproduce it 2 seconds or 10 seconds according to the length of the sound to reproducing.
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NOMAD the BEST!!!!!
CSF has been open, it is O.K.!!!!!! But how to close it back????????? |
this is the question :D
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Know someone answer?
I discovered special thing. If I change anything on navi_sw cd , that MK3 cd informal. I change something - logo in navboot for MK4 (MK4 will receive and everything OK) and MK3 CD informal. Only write " In navigation computer SW - CD ........etc." and then black screen, will go out red diode flashing and nothing. No message "CRC BAD" or"CD bad" or someother.( I changed only navboot for mk4!!) ) Unique. I Made attempt. MK3 - changed modul in usw_load, computed CRC, everything ok, insert to the MK4 - everything OK, insert to the MK3 - write " In navigation....etc....." and then black screen, go out red diode and nothing. I did more attempts - if I wherever anything changed and computed CRC on OK, that MK4 will accept and MK3 not. Knows somebody wherein can be problem?
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This happens because of a critical error in Mk3 bootloader. It goes into an infinite loop, trying to read CD structure.
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you can modify for MK4 but for MK3 ins't it need other filesystem
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Does anyone know wherte to find the ugly GPS graphic file with navtweak? I would realy like to improve this Windows 3.11 style picture on my nav MK IV :)
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Does Nav Tweak also work with V28?
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I have downloaded the NAVTweak software and have got the 2007-1 NAV DVD in a folder on my desktop, can't work out which file to tell NAVTweak to open, anybody have any pointers?
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Hello normad
Waht program are the Rumanian useing , ( i cant read there languages ) insted off weriuos UltraIso programs for making alterd SW for the MK-III Nav. computer ? Greetings from Denmark:) |
Navtweak does not open the RR/0102 files. Any reason for that?
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HI, today I modify sw for MK3 , its so difficult, but its possible. in ISO hex only, calculate CRC and insert back . But must be change hex parts with some size, :confused: (e.g. language parts - no problem ). I wonna change voice parts, but it had different size - problem ??? |
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Also edited all the language files, so that the text is displayed in dutch (nederlands)... for a quick tut. let me know... [email protected] |
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I burnt a disc using MagicISO and my Mk3 could not read it. Now I know why :-) Which CD burning tool creates a bootable CD for the Mk3 nav computer? |
Help Please!! I have a working copy of Navtweak but don't have a clue how to use it. I merely want to replace the boring "BMW" Splash Screen with an AC Schnitzer logo that I have obtained. It's a 9.58 Kb JPEG image.
Do I have to convert the image from JPEG to GIF? & which file needs replacing? :confused: NB: I worked out how to do it today, so forget this post thx. |
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you need a couple of things... - first of all a graphics editor, but thats not the most hard thing to get hands on ;-) I suggest saving/converting the image to gif, to rule out errors, as the original images is also a gif... - Second, you extract the contents of the VXX file (newest version is V28) to a folder on your hard drive. - You download he navtweak2.2 program (links available across this website, older version also works) - you find the file "navboot" (there's no extension, just navboot) and you open this file with the navtweak program. (file location : V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S\app_sw) - if navtweak won't start, you need the GTK software, the links are also available on this site (do a search for "gtk") and copy the navtweak.exe file in de bin directory of the fresly installed gtk drectory. - once opened, go to the second tab called "images" and browse down. You will see every image used in the BMW software on the map etc. The bootup image is located in the 'rombitmaps' tab, just below the main tabs, you can't miss it... -simply rightclick on the line you want to change and select replace. select you own image, save the file and write the contents of the whole cd to a new blanc CD-R at very low speed (to minimize read errors , you definitely don't want those ) - go to your car, key in the ignition on the first position (when you can use the radio, but not all of the dashboard is lit up), insert the cd in the trunc - wait and pray ;-) It hasn't gone wrong once so... the screen will tell you what to do, but mostly is says "wait" ;-) Hope this helps.. any more questions? just ask |
Thank You Sonic393 but I worked it out myself today. However, your instructions should be posted as a "Sticky" for all the other imbeciles like me....:)
& furthermore, it is not as simple as you say. I had to copy my V28 CD to my HDD, make an UltaISO image on the HDD then copy the "Navboot" file elsewhere on the HDD then use NavTweak to open up the "Robotimaps" files on the copied (Not ISO image) V28.Look for the 400 x 234 pixel file (Which if you click on shows the boring BMW logo) then use "NavTweak" to replace the GIF file into your saved "Navboot" file. I then used UltraISO to replace the ISO V28 Navboot file with my saved "Navboot" file & burnt it at 4x speed. A great result - I now have the AC Schintzer Logo on start up. I did have to reload my earlier V27.1 OS then again reload my ACS modified V28 OS to update the firmware on my Nav Computer - but that is normal. By the way, I used Navtweak V1 as V2.2 just would not work for me - & I have a state of the art PC.... Anyway, I am grateful for your advice, but to anybody computer illiterate it means not a lot. It's only simple if somebody can produce idiot proof instructions. I was the Head of IT for the F&CO in Bosnia/Serbia a few years ago & as such realise that the "experts" can spout forth about "perl" etc. That means nothing to the average guy/gal on this forum. The expertise is here. All it requires is for an "expert" to put instructions into plain English - which I hope that I have done......... Mike |
NavTweak 2.6 released (Mk3 and Rover support improved)
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Is there an easy way to replace all sound files? I'd like to change volume of all sound files and then reload them back. I can extract the files with csfdump, but it there a similar program/function in NavSpeak to put them all back with just one command i.e. replace all? |
Just a few questions.
What happend if I modify, per example, MENU to "WELCOME ON BOARD, ALEX" Or another frase or word longest that the original?? Could be possible or it's to large!! And also. I'm very confussed about the colors. I'm not sure about what are they. "Is this for the background or this is the correct one!!" Thank you!!!! P.S. Sorry My english is a shit!! |
Yes, you can make the text longer.
For MENU my text is now: "MENU Jochen's 540i dir 116" The dir 116 was me working out which directory my car would use to load the software. Also, I replaced the 9kb GIF boot image with a 45kb GIF boot image, no problem |
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Have anybody E46 icons??
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Hi guys!!
I have some problems with my nany. I’ve change some colours and some words in the Navboot file, and now I’m having problems with the GPS. It does not recognise my “DVD 2007-1 + radars”. It works properly with the V.28 without any change in colours and words, but now it doesn’t work. The “DVD 2007-1 + radars” is the same. Same disk. Is any link between the navboot file and the “DVD 2007-1 + radars”?? So: 1.- V.28 without any change in the colour and words + “DVD 2007-1 + radars” = All ok!! 2.- V.28 with some changes in the colour and words + “DVD 2007-1 + radars” = No GPS Disk Error!! And sometimes the system doesn’t work properly. Some black screen, no GPS logo at screen…. Any help??? I have the “V.28 modify to SPANISH” but I select GB language at “Configuration” It speaks me in Spanish Do I have to visit BMW to re-codificate the system?? Pls, helpppp!!!!!!!! Thanks!! |
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has anyone, in your experience, some trouble with Navtweak and/or Gtk2.1? Should both works in every windows platform (98se, me, xp)? Thnks:thumbup: |
Can some one please help......
I used a V28 navboot file and I have changed the splash screen and some icons within as per the instructions in this thread. I have burnt a new copy of V28 with the modified navboot But when i put the V28 disc in to update, the system jsut says my system is already up to date. I am currently on V28, so how can i update the files that i have modfiied??? Any suggestions?? thanks in advance!! Janafunk |
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ie: make the SW version 4/1-81 and your nav will load the new SW. Change in rel_tbl and lang_tbl, first 4 bytes, edit with hex editor These filenames are from memory - you'll see the files when you look through the V_2 directory and it's subdirectories. |
...otherwise you can get a V27 version (here), downgrade your system to 4-1/70 then reupgrade to 4-1/80 with new screen, as I did...;)
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And does downgrading cause any problems......??.....i have a MK4 Euro drive based in UK. cheers Jan. |
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You don't need strange actions to downgrade system. You shouldn't have any problem in mk4 euro system... |
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I shall try it later on when i can at work!! |
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One question (for now):rofl: when i go into "rombitmaps" is the splash logo the first gif 5x5 pixels? EDIT..found it;) |
Managed to change the splash screen ok and checked to make sure it had changed by going into nav tweak and checking.
Burnt disc at 8x in Nero (lowest) still wont read it,saying incorrect cd/dvd in.... One thing I noticed , if I go into (my computer) on the pc it is reporting the original as (nav) when the burrt disc goes in it reports it as (my disc),probably a Nero thing. Nearly there,any tips guy's? Update...used a slightly different method, opened the original v28 (img file) in power iso,changed the splash screen and burnt the disc all within the one program.It updated the s/w back from v27 so all seems fine.Brought the disc back up to the pc and opened it up using nav tweak and it has changed the splash screen on the disc so it should be on the car also. Thing is, the car has lost its gps signal,will come back on when i pull out of the garage and it boots up correctly,need sleep...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Ok guys...thanks for all your help....i have sucessfully donw the update with a custom splash screen.....very very happy!!! ;)
BUT.....just discovered last night on the way in to london city when i used the nav to look at traffic that the TMC was not switched on....so i switiched it on....but this caused the MK4 drive to crash and reboot!!... :confused: So i tired it again....and again....and again and the same thing.... So this morning i went back to V27 and it was fine....no problems!!!! And i tried it again at lunch today....and it keeps rebooting!!! Any ideas???.....have i done something wrong?? btw....i have a 2002 e39 with MK4 and 2007-1 DVD with Speed Cam mod! thanks in advance guys!!! |
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Hi Guys !
I am Richard from Austria and drive an E39 with MK4 DVD satnav. Found this forum with google searching for a guide recoding the nav computer. Then I found this Navtweak thread, read it from 1st to last page, and must say: AWESOME WORK !!! I am also a "little freak" like others here and love playing with such things others would say it's impossible. I already did my first mod and want to share with you my graphics I made: everyone's invited to use them sky replacements: http://www.viso.at/private/filebase/46_sky1.jpg http://www.viso.at/private/filebase/47_sky2.jpg startup splash screen replacement: http://www.viso.at/private/filebase/48_welcome.gif Thanks again to the programmer of navtweak sharing his great and easy to use app with us!!! :thumbup: *respect* |
bmw the best!!!
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I'm currently working on some more and will post them soon.
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